(04-22-2013 07:52 PM)krux Wrote:  You sure are wasting a lot of valuable time on this little kiddie, aren't you?

Not really, just tossing idle comments your way while waiting for the adults to respond.

You see, I am just being the antagonist for this wonderful event that just happened. After all, SOMEONE had to rile you guys up a bit.

I am about to head off again though, got actual things to do and dont want to divert myself for too long.

It has been fun poking you krux while talking with the other adults at the same time.

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:52 PM)krux Wrote:  You sure are wasting a lot of valuable time on this little kiddie, aren't you?

Not really, just tossing idle comments your way while waiting for the adults to respond.

You see, I am just being the antagonist for this wonderful event that just happened. After all, SOMEONE had to rile you guys up a bit.

I am about to head off again though, got actual things to do and dont want to divert myself for too long.

It has been fun poking you krux while talking with the other adults at the same time.

WTH? Lame smack talk abounds.

(04-22-2013 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:45 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:37 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Well I am sure the payout the ACC schools will receive is before bowl money, conference championship money, NC2A credits and what ever else. So ESPN is going to pay each school well over 20 million each for what that exact number is is anyones guess, but it was stated OVER 20 million before any other additional money. So realistically the ACC could be seeing payouts of up to or over 30 million to each school. Do the math that is a lot of cash that's not the BigTen or SEC.

Up to 30 mil? Wow, hold up. I will admit, this is a good day for the ACC but all trolling of little boy krux aside...don't get all crazy man. Yes it could be over 20 mil but dont go gettin nutty and adding another 10 mil to it.

He's talking about after you add up everything. 30 mil is a definite.

Definite? Sure thing Mr. Swofford.

Base 20+ mil per team
OB 2.5 mil per team
base playoffs 3.6 mil per team
Bowls 2.5 mil per team
NCAA credits 2 mil per team

That's 30.6 mil right there.

This doesn't even include years where the ACC gets into the playoffs or other access bowls.

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:45 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:37 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Well I am sure the payout the ACC schools will receive is before bowl money, conference championship money, NC2A credits and what ever else. So ESPN is going to pay each school well over 20 million each for what that exact number is is anyones guess, but it was stated OVER 20 million before any other additional money. So realistically the ACC could be seeing payouts of up to or over 30 million to each school. Do the math that is a lot of cash that's not the BigTen or SEC.

Up to 30 mil? Wow, hold up. I will admit, this is a good day for the ACC but all trolling of little boy krux aside...don't get all crazy man. Yes it could be over 20 mil but dont go gettin nutty and adding another 10 mil to it.

He's talking about after you add up everything. 30 mil is a definite.

Definite? Sure thing Mr. Swofford.

Base 20+ mil per team
OB 2.5 mil per team
base playoffs 3.6 mil per team
Bowls 2.5 mil per team
NCAA credits 2 mil per team

That's 30.6 mil right there.

This doesn't even include years where the ACC gets into the playoffs or other access bowls.

Oh my god, ok if you have to go THAT far in order to come up with the 30 mil figure then good on you. The point is still the same that other conferences won't have to. They will be making much more than 30 mil when you start adding all that up.

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:45 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Up to 30 mil? Wow, hold up. I will admit, this is a good day for the ACC but all trolling of little boy krux aside...don't get all crazy man. Yes it could be over 20 mil but dont go gettin nutty and adding another 10 mil to it.

He's talking about after you add up everything. 30 mil is a definite.

Definite? Sure thing Mr. Swofford.

Base 20+ mil per team
OB 2.5 mil per team
base playoffs 3.6 mil per team
Bowls 2.5 mil per team
NCAA credits 2 mil per team

That's 30.6 mil right there.

This doesn't even include years where the ACC gets into the playoffs or other access bowls.

Oh my god, ok if you have to go THAT far in order to come up with the 30 mil figure then good on you. The point is still the same that other conferences won't have to. They will be making much more than 30 mil when you start adding all that up.

No one is making 30 mil without adding everything up. Show me where someone is making that on TV revenue alone.

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:52 PM)krux Wrote:  You sure are wasting a lot of valuable time on this little kiddie, aren't you?

Not really, just tossing idle comments your way while waiting for the adults to respond.

You see, I am just being the antagonist for this wonderful event that just happened. After all, SOMEONE had to rile you guys up a bit.

I am about to head off again though, got actual things to do and dont want to divert myself for too long.

It has been fun poking you krux while talking with the other adults at the same time.

WTH? Lame smack talk abounds.

WTH? Lame comments about lame smack talk just keeps it going.

(04-22-2013 08:01 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:45 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  He's talking about after you add up everything. 30 mil is a definite.

Definite? Sure thing Mr. Swofford.

Base 20+ mil per team
OB 2.5 mil per team
base playoffs 3.6 mil per team
Bowls 2.5 mil per team
NCAA credits 2 mil per team

That's 30.6 mil right there.

This doesn't even include years where the ACC gets into the playoffs or other access bowls.

Oh my god, ok if you have to go THAT far in order to come up with the 30 mil figure then good on you. The point is still the same that other conferences won't have to. They will be making much more than 30 mil when you start adding all that up.

No one is making 30 mil without adding everything up. Show me where someone is making that on TV revenue alone.

Remind me to do all of that looking up of stuff some other day. I really can't be bothered right now. Figured that would be evident by my exasperated reply to you going that far. I get it though, you are excited.

(04-22-2013 08:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:01 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:   Definite? Sure thing Mr. Swofford.

Base 20+ mil per team
OB 2.5 mil per team
base playoffs 3.6 mil per team
Bowls 2.5 mil per team
NCAA credits 2 mil per team

That's 30.6 mil right there.

This doesn't even include years where the ACC gets into the playoffs or other access bowls.

Oh my god, ok if you have to go THAT far in order to come up with the 30 mil figure then good on you. The point is still the same that other conferences won't have to. They will be making much more than 30 mil when you start adding all that up.

No one is making 30 mil without adding everything up. Show me where someone is making that on TV revenue alone.

Remind me to do all of that looking up of stuff some other day. I really can't be bothered right now. Figured that would be evident by my exasperated reply to you going that far. I get it though, you are excited.

Not excited. I just enjoy putting people like you in your place. You're an educated person I suppose and you can read just like me and you know darn well no one is getting 30 mil on TV revenue alone.

Want some help with your research? This is what the Big 10 paid out last year

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/i...0f31a.html

(04-22-2013 07:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:37 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Well I am sure the payout the ACC schools will receive is before bowl money, conference championship money, NC2A credits and what ever else. So ESPN is going to pay each school well over 20 million each for what that exact number is is anyones guess, but it was stated OVER 20 million before any other additional money. So realistically the ACC could be seeing payouts of up to or over 30 million to each school. Do the math that is a lot of cash that's not the BigTen or SEC.

Up to 30 mil? Wow, hold up. I will admit, this is a good day for the ACC but all trolling of little boy krux aside...don't get all crazy man. Yes it could be over 20 mil but dont go gettin nutty and adding another 10 mil to it.

Again let's just say the new deal tops out at 22 to 25million each. The extra income will come from CCG, bowl money, conference tournament money as well as the NC2A credits and any other additional income. So its not hard to imagine another additional 8 to 10million. So yes it is very easy to see up to or over 30 million each and every year.

The ACC will more than likely start placing 8 to 10 teams annually to the the NC2A's as well as placing possibly 2 teams amongst the BCS any giving year if not every year not to mention all the other bowls. So yes I for see a HUGE payout, but of course not like your deal that is some what forced upon a lot of the country who would care less to have. LOL

(04-22-2013 08:08 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:01 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Base 20+ mil per team
OB 2.5 mil per team
base playoffs 3.6 mil per team
Bowls 2.5 mil per team
NCAA credits 2 mil per team

That's 30.6 mil right there.

This doesn't even include years where the ACC gets into the playoffs or other access bowls.

Oh my god, ok if you have to go THAT far in order to come up with the 30 mil figure then good on you. The point is still the same that other conferences won't have to. They will be making much more than 30 mil when you start adding all that up.

No one is making 30 mil without adding everything up. Show me where someone is making that on TV revenue alone.

Remind me to do all of that looking up of stuff some other day. I really can't be bothered right now. Figured that would be evident by my exasperated reply to you going that far. I get it though, you are excited.

Not excited. I just enjoy putting people like you in your place. You're an educated person I suppose and you can read just like me and you know darn well no one is getting 30 mil on TV revenue alone.

Want some help with your research? This is what the Big 10 paid out last year

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/i...0f31a.html

Congrats on putting me in my place. Kudos!

Unfortunately I was pestered by another poster in the other thread for this info so I did a quick search and found something. I never said 30 mil in tv revenue alone but.....lets take a look at my link shall we?

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

That is what Minnesota makes! Freaking Minnesota...is going to make more money than you guys. That is an actual media outlet citing 32 million a year by 2014. Enjoy! Been fun! I truly do like you guys, just giving you some razzing.

Congrats on the GoR. It adds a whole new element to this Drama I enjoy following.

(04-22-2013 08:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:52 PM)krux Wrote:  You sure are wasting a lot of valuable time on this little kiddie, aren't you?

Not really, just tossing idle comments your way while waiting for the adults to respond.

You see, I am just being the antagonist for this wonderful event that just happened. After all, SOMEONE had to rile you guys up a bit.

I am about to head off again though, got actual things to do and dont want to divert myself for too long.

It has been fun poking you krux while talking with the other adults at the same time.

WTH? Lame smack talk abounds.

WTH? Lame comments about lame smack talk just keeps it going.

And so on, and so on, and ...........

See how that works?

(04-22-2013 08:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:08 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:01 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

Oh my god, ok if you have to go THAT far in order to come up with the 30 mil figure then good on you. The point is still the same that other conferences won't have to. They will be making much more than 30 mil when you start adding all that up.

No one is making 30 mil without adding everything up. Show me where someone is making that on TV revenue alone.

Remind me to do all of that looking up of stuff some other day. I really can't be bothered right now. Figured that would be evident by my exasperated reply to you going that far. I get it though, you are excited.

Not excited. I just enjoy putting people like you in your place. You're an educated person I suppose and you can read just like me and you know darn well no one is getting 30 mil on TV revenue alone.

Want some help with your research? This is what the Big 10 paid out last year

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/i...0f31a.html

Congrats on putting me in my place. Kudos!

Unfortunately I was pestered by another poster in the other thread for this info so I did a quick search and found something. I never said 30 mil in tv revenue alone but.....lets take a look at my link shall we?

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

That is what Minnesota makes! Freaking Minnesota...is going to make more money than you guys. That is an actual media outlet citing 32 million a year by 2014. Enjoy! Been fun! I truly do like you guys, just giving you some razzing.

Congrats on the GoR. It adds a whole new element to this Drama I enjoy following.

Well maybe you're not educated like I thought. I can't believe you hit me with UNOFFICIAL numbers when I gave you OFFICIAL numbers. You guys can make up all kinds of projections. I sincerely doubt you'll add 8 million on top of the 24.6 in one year.

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:52 PM)krux Wrote:  You sure are wasting a lot of valuable time on this little kiddie, aren't you?

Not really, just tossing idle comments your way while waiting for the adults to respond.

You see, I am just being the antagonist for this wonderful event that just happened. After all, SOMEONE had to rile you guys up a bit.

I am about to head off again though, got actual things to do and dont want to divert myself for too long.

It has been fun poking you krux while talking with the other adults at the same time.

If you had any relevance it is quickly fading...a butt hurt tired act for someone who doesn't care about the ACC.

(04-22-2013 08:00 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:58 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:45 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Up to 30 mil? Wow, hold up. I will admit, this is a good day for the ACC but all trolling of little boy krux aside...don't get all crazy man. Yes it could be over 20 mil but dont go gettin nutty and adding another 10 mil to it.

He's talking about after you add up everything. 30 mil is a definite.

Definite? Sure thing Mr. Swofford.

Base 20+ mil per team
OB 2.5 mil per team
base playoffs 3.6 mil per team
Bowls 2.5 mil per team
NCAA credits 2 mil per team

That's 30.6 mil right there.

This doesn't even include years where the ACC gets into the playoffs or other access bowls.

Oh my god, ok if you have to go THAT far in order to come up with the 30 mil figure then good on you. The point is still the same that other conferences won't have to. They will be making much more than 30 mil when you start adding all that up.

...well, we also have a restaurant and buffalo wings and Carolina BBQ > deep-fried twinkies (or whatever it is that they eat in the midwest) and chicago-style deep dish "pizza" (which, as an italian american, I find offensive) any deay of the week, so the B1G can't copy us there. Other than that we were going to muscle the girl scouts out of the cookie game and i think we could also pick up a couple mill there....


...oh yeah, we might also sell wrapping paper and my mom is always down to buy a ton of that!

I think we will be sittin' pretty pretty in a coupla years...

(04-22-2013 08:17 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:52 PM)krux Wrote:  You sure are wasting a lot of valuable time on this little kiddie, aren't you?

Not really, just tossing idle comments your way while waiting for the adults to respond.

You see, I am just being the antagonist for this wonderful event that just happened. After all, SOMEONE had to rile you guys up a bit.

I am about to head off again though, got actual things to do and dont want to divert myself for too long.

It has been fun poking you krux while talking with the other adults at the same time.

If you had any relevance it is quickly fading...a butt hurt tired act for someone who doesn't care about the ACC.

Be careful, Mark! Only 15 year olds use terms like butt hurt! Also, please try to limit yourself to one emoticon going forward...I know you didn't exceed the limit this time but I figured you should be made aware!

(04-22-2013 08:17 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:54 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:52 PM)krux Wrote:  You sure are wasting a lot of valuable time on this little kiddie, aren't you?

Not really, just tossing idle comments your way while waiting for the adults to respond.

You see, I am just being the antagonist for this wonderful event that just happened. After all, SOMEONE had to rile you guys up a bit.

I am about to head off again though, got actual things to do and dont want to divert myself for too long.

It has been fun poking you krux while talking with the other adults at the same time.

If you had any relevance it is quickly fading...a butt hurt tired act for someone who doesn't care about the ACC.

Relevance? Dude, I named myself He1nousOne. Do you really think relevance around here was my goal?

Nice try. Whenever I post you poke your head up to attempt a shot at me. You keep failing though. The butt hurt attack was already used by someone else too I think. Get some new material if relevance is your thing.

(04-22-2013 08:17 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:08 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:01 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  No one is making 30 mil without adding everything up. Show me where someone is making that on TV revenue alone.

Remind me to do all of that looking up of stuff some other day. I really can't be bothered right now. Figured that would be evident by my exasperated reply to you going that far. I get it though, you are excited.

Not excited. I just enjoy putting people like you in your place. You're an educated person I suppose and you can read just like me and you know darn well no one is getting 30 mil on TV revenue alone.

Want some help with your research? This is what the Big 10 paid out last year

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/i...0f31a.html

Congrats on putting me in my place. Kudos!

Unfortunately I was pestered by another poster in the other thread for this info so I did a quick search and found something. I never said 30 mil in tv revenue alone but.....lets take a look at my link shall we?

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

That is what Minnesota makes! Freaking Minnesota...is going to make more money than you guys. That is an actual media outlet citing 32 million a year by 2014. Enjoy! Been fun! I truly do like you guys, just giving you some razzing.

Congrats on the GoR. It adds a whole new element to this Drama I enjoy following.

Well maybe you're not educated like I thought. I can't believe you hit me with UNOFFICIAL numbers when I gave you OFFICIAL numbers. You guys can make up all kinds of projections. I sincerely doubt you'll add 8 million on top of the 24.6 in one year.

Oh no, random dude on internet just changed his mind on whether I am educated or not...what shall I do?

Ain't nothin official about the ACC Network and Major Corporations work upon future projections. Hell the entire Stock Market teeters upon projections. If you want to talk about lack of education, lets look at you and your attempt to minimize the effectiveness of Projections.

(04-22-2013 08:35 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:17 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:08 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 08:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Remind me to do all of that looking up of stuff some other day. I really can't be bothered right now. Figured that would be evident by my exasperated reply to you going that far. I get it though, you are excited.

Not excited. I just enjoy putting people like you in your place. You're an educated person I suppose and you can read just like me and you know darn well no one is getting 30 mil on TV revenue alone.

Want some help with your research? This is what the Big 10 paid out last year

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/i...0f31a.html

Congrats on putting me in my place. Kudos!

Unfortunately I was pestered by another poster in the other thread for this info so I did a quick search and found something. I never said 30 mil in tv revenue alone but.....lets take a look at my link shall we?

Quote:Six years ago, before the Big Ten Network debuted, the university received $10.7 million in annual payments from the Big Ten. Two years later, with the conference's network firmly in place televising football, basketball and other sports, Minnesota's annual share jumped to $18.8 million. It has since spiraled to $22.9 million in 2011 and figures to jump even more -- one unofficial estimate put the figure at $32 million by 2014 -- when Rutgers and Maryland join the Big Ten and push the conference into the lucrative East Coast markets.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...ml?refer=y

That is what Minnesota makes! Freaking Minnesota...is going to make more money than you guys. That is an actual media outlet citing 32 million a year by 2014. Enjoy! Been fun! I truly do like you guys, just giving you some razzing.

Congrats on the GoR. It adds a whole new element to this Drama I enjoy following.

Well maybe you're not educated like I thought. I can't believe you hit me with UNOFFICIAL numbers when I gave you OFFICIAL numbers. You guys can make up all kinds of projections. I sincerely doubt you'll add 8 million on top of the 24.6 in one year.

Oh no, random dude on internet just changed his mind on whether I am educated or not...what shall I do?

Ain't nothin official about the ACC Network and Major Corporations work upon future projections. Hell the entire Stock Market teeters upon projections. If you want to talk about lack of education, lets look at you and your attempt to minimize the effectiveness of Projections.

I didn't minimize the effectiveness of projections. I have, however, earned the right to be skeptical. Obviously, outside of Maryland/Rutgers who were desperate, other ACC teams were skeptical too. You would think with all that money the Big 10 can just go out and take whomever they want. ND didn't want to join. The other ACC teams didn't want to join. You think you can get someone from the SEC to jump?

Anyway, the Big 10 has done well for themselves with their network. Soon all major conferences will be making well into the 30s. Btw...make sure those projections aren't all-inclusive

(04-22-2013 07:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Wait...Notre Dame was supposed to bump you guys to 19 million just by themselves. You sign a Granting of Rights and only get 1 million for it?

Oh this just keeps getting better!

I mean, ACC guys are actually gloating and celebrating 20 million a year. Well done guys! Well done! Congrats on your stability!

It sure works for me!

(04-22-2013 08:48 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 07:22 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Wait...Notre Dame was supposed to bump you guys to 19 million just by themselves. You sign a Granting of Rights and only get 1 million for it?

Oh this just keeps getting better!

I mean, ACC guys are actually gloating and celebrating 20 million a year. Well done guys! Well done! Congrats on your stability!

It sure works for me!

If Jim Delaney and the B1G wants to expand...where are they going to go now...the AAC...