(03-24-2013 11:30 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 11:25 PM)TNTigers Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 09:39 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  Jason Smith seems to think it's possible.

@TheCAJasonSmith: Not happening. The Ben Howland part at least. RT @RTRtiger15: @TheCAJasonSmith how about Ben Howland to replace Coach P if he leaves?

If Ben Howland were to become the coach here that's the day I would stop watching the games. Yuck.

Real bad hire for this program. He's a grind it out kind of coach. Bad fit.

Yeah. I'd still support the team and all, but I can't stand that kind of basketball. I can't watch 30+ games of that style.

who cares if Josh leaves? he hasent done very much since he been here. and we can list the seasons

1. ok cupboard was bear and we can excuse the first season

2. caught lightning in a bottle and got lucky as hell to beat UTEP in the CUSA to even make it to the dance. 1 and done

3.medicore play all year. lost biggest games of the year and again 1 and done in the tourney

4. this season...pitiful start. again! big fat L's when the games count the most. ran through a weak confrence to rack up the wins! oh yeah and a peach of a game against Xavier sprinkled in and what do we get. a miracle to beat a bad St. Marys team and beat down by a decent team. Again.

So let Josh go if he got somthing better on the line.
I know we can do better! Go Tigers!

I hope you know where I stand.

(03-24-2013 10:20 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 09:47 PM)NJ1 Wrote:  UCLA, Kansas, UNC, Duke. Pastner would leave for any of those four in a heartbeat.

There might be some others, as well. Probably not too much more than 10 others. Probably not USC.

Maybe I'm just a homer.

Word on the street is Josh can't coach. Are you serious in thinking one of those programs would want him? We are the most insecure fan base I've ever seen.

He might not be able to coach, but he can recruit, has a gaudy record, and looks good on camera. Just enough to keep USC happy.

(03-24-2013 10:25 PM)fsquid Wrote:  FGCU's coach has had one good year, you don't throw him in front of our program. You take the Marshall guy that beat people at Winthrop and then beat people at Witchita State

This...

One good NCAA runs doesn't mean someone is a good coach. Look at Mike Davis and Stan Heath.

Paul Hewett got Georgia Tech to the championship game and if Thaddeus Young has a baller kid brother, his family would let the kid play for Paul Hewett coaching at Memphis.

(03-24-2013 10:16 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  In the last 40 or so years, how many Memphis coaches have left for another job? I wasn't born until '83 so I am thinking only 2. Cal and Bartow. One went to KY, the other to UCLA. Why would anyone want to leave Memphis for USC? Is anyone else seeing this as maybe Parrish trying to stir up some speculation so he gets listeners to his show and readers for his column? Do I want him to go? No. Will it be the end of the world if he does? No. Memphis basketball was relevant before Pastner, Cal, Price, Finch,Kirk.... And it will still be after.

1) Bartow left for Illinois. He left Illinois after one season for UCLA. (See someone has pointed this out already)

2) Why go to USC? Los Angeles, Los Angeles, and Los Angeles. Pac-12 (Underwhelming Big 5 conference), back to his old stomping grounds, and less pressure since it's a football school. And the school has money.

And Memphis basketball wasn't truly relevant until Larry Finch. Before it was relevant to Memphis... But Finch (and company) made it relevant to America.

(03-24-2013 10:25 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 10:21 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 10:08 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 09:53 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 09:48 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Any potential coach would have to have the ability to keep homegrown talent home as well as recruit top players nationally, plus play a style of basketball to fans liken- no slow ball. Who is out there who would do that?

We might have to embrace our outlaw image

i would rather see us shutdown basketball than hire pearl.

Absolutely. Count me out.

If Josh left I'd take Pearl in a heartbeat. Sorry, the man can coach. He's a great recruiter too.

Agreed... I don't get why Tiger fans can't get over sour grapes. If Bruce Pearl were able to take our current team and the guaranteed three recruits we are going to get, we probably would be a title contender next year.

But alas, he lied to the NCAA and they treated him like the Nevada legal system treated OJ Simpson.

Maybe we could get Turner Daily to hire Pearl and let him coach in absentia. Kinda like how Channel 5 hire Andy Wise a year before he could legally work at Channel 5, but he did all the stories through someone else at the station.

(03-24-2013 09:41 PM)NJ1 Wrote:  If Pastner did leave, I would hope the bigger boosters would have a search committee of the same type that hired Fuente and Bowen.

Best post on the subject so far.

(03-24-2013 10:05 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Pearl still have 1 more year on his recruiting ban. Nobody is hiring him until after next season. Then he'll probably wind up at UNLV, SMU, Cincy, or Uconn


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Hmmmmmm...... do we want Pearl on our bench, or the oppositions? Honest question, I don't have TOO big an opinion on this, but it seems like something to consider. As far as 1 year left on his recruiting ban, I think you could rely on the sports news and the name "Memphis" to "recruit" for one measly year if it got you the coach you wanted.

(03-24-2013 10:26 PM)Hoopla Wrote:  I just don't see it. Unless the lunatic fringe section of our fanbase is more vocal in its displeasure with Pastner than any of us realize, he isn't under the pressure everyone is insinuating. Have any of the big boosters WHO PAY HIS SALARY made any grumbling noises? As far as I can tell, Pastner is very appreciative of the loyal fanbase.

And you want to talk about legacy? Pastner realizes he can create his own legacy right here at Memphis. We gave him his chance. As long as we give him enough time to do it, he'll do it, I have no doubt. Running him off before then is detrimental to us both.

John had that same "legacy" opportunity here, so I stopped assuming that plays into it anymore.

(03-24-2013 10:38 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  Pearl, as a human being, leaves much to be desired. He's a proven liar, cheat and is the poster child for running an unethical, renegade program. Pearl, as a college basketball coach and recruiter, is probably one of the very best. With a fertile recruiting base in Memphis and a run-and-gun style that showcases individual talent, he would be a superstar here.

Half of our fanbase would absolutely adore him, the other half would completely despise him. Both groups would be attacking each other non-stop during Pearl's tenure. It would certainly be interesting.

You mean like now.

(03-25-2013 12:52 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 10:38 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  Pearl, as a human being, leaves much to be desired. He's a proven liar, cheat and is the poster child for running an unethical, renegade program. Pearl, as a college basketball coach and recruiter, is probably one of the very best. With a fertile recruiting base in Memphis and a run-and-gun style that showcases individual talent, he would be a superstar here.

Half of our fanbase would absolutely adore him, the other half would completely despise him. Both groups would be attacking each other non-stop during Pearl's tenure. It would certainly be interesting.

You mean like now.

Isn't every fanbase divided on how they feel about their coach?

I love how Goodman claims that CJP would not be so heavily criticized by the locals at USC as opposed to the people in Memphis. He and the others have been the very outspoken ones criticizing CJP on the radio, tv, internet, twitter, and print. Agenda. Parrish trolling for listeners to call in.

If Arizona had gotten Lute to retire earlier and moved Josh to the HC job he would be there for the long haul. But it was Memphis that gave him the opportunity first and I think Josh has found a home with us. If he were egotistical and consumed with earning more money he might consider another offer. Fortunately for us Josh has gained financial security here and likes living here.

(03-24-2013 09:37 PM)JacobSmiley Wrote:  If he leaves who would be on Memphis' list to replace him?

Get Andy Enfield. That's what I'd love to see the Tiger's run, Dunk City.

(03-24-2013 11:59 PM)bin painter Wrote:  who cares if Josh leaves? he hasent done very much since he been here. and we can list the seasons

1. ok cupboard was bear and we can excuse the first season

2. caught lightning in a bottle and got lucky as hell to beat UTEP in the CUSA to even make it to the dance. 1 and done

3.medicore play all year. lost biggest games of the year and again 1 and done in the tourney

4. this season...pitiful start. again! big fat L's when the games count the most. ran through a weak confrence to rack up the wins! oh yeah and a peach of a game against Xavier sprinkled in and what do we get. a miracle to beat a bad St. Marys team and beat down by a decent team. Again.

So let Josh go if he got somthing better on the line.
I know we can do better! Go Tigers!

I'll leave you to your opinion about whether or not Josh is good or not, but point #4 contains and EGREGIOUS error which I cannot ignore. St Marys win was not a miracle. We were the better team. It was only a close game at the end because we lost focus. I'm not sure, and will not waste the time to look it up, but if we did not lead in that game wire to wire, it was an insignificant amount of time that we didn't.

(03-25-2013 12:26 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 10:16 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  In the last 40 or so years, how many Memphis coaches have left for another job? I wasn't born until '83 so I am thinking only 2. Cal and Bartow. One went to KY, the other to UCLA. Why would anyone want to leave Memphis for USC? Is anyone else seeing this as maybe Parrish trying to stir up some speculation so he gets listeners to his show and readers for his column? Do I want him to go? No. Will it be the end of the world if he does? No. Memphis basketball was relevant before Pastner, Cal, Price, Finch,Kirk.... And it will still be after.

1) Bartow left for Illinois. He left Illinois after one season for UCLA. (See someone has pointed this out already)

2) Why go to USC? Los Angeles, Los Angeles, and Los Angeles. Pac-12 (Underwhelming Big 5 conference), back to his old stomping grounds, and less pressure since it's a football school. And the school has money.

And Memphis basketball wasn't truly relevant until Larry Finch. Before it was relevant to Memphis... But Finch (and company) made it relevant to America.

To discount Kirk is to be mistaken.

(03-25-2013 01:09 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(03-25-2013 12:26 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 10:16 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  In the last 40 or so years, how many Memphis coaches have left for another job? I wasn't born until '83 so I am thinking only 2. Cal and Bartow. One went to KY, the other to UCLA. Why would anyone want to leave Memphis for USC? Is anyone else seeing this as maybe Parrish trying to stir up some speculation so he gets listeners to his show and readers for his column? Do I want him to go? No. Will it be the end of the world if he does? No. Memphis basketball was relevant before Pastner, Cal, Price, Finch,Kirk.... And it will still be after.

1) Bartow left for Illinois. He left Illinois after one season for UCLA. (See someone has pointed this out already)

2) Why go to USC? Los Angeles, Los Angeles, and Los Angeles. Pac-12 (Underwhelming Big 5 conference), back to his old stomping grounds, and less pressure since it's a football school. And the school has money.

And Memphis basketball wasn't truly relevant until Larry Finch. Before it was relevant to Memphis... But Finch (and company) made it relevant to America.

To discount Kirk is to be mistaken.

Pssst.... Pssst... I mean Finch coming to Memphis out of Melrose... Before Bartow.

(03-25-2013 01:01 AM)SayWhat? Wrote:  I love how Goodman claims that CJP would not be so heavily criticized by the locals at USC as opposed to the people in Memphis. He and the others have been the very outspoken ones criticizing CJP on the radio, tv, internet, twitter, and print. Agenda. Parrish trolling for listeners to call in.

If Arizona had gotten Lute to retire earlier and moved Josh to the HC job he would be there for the long haul. But it was Memphis that gave him the opportunity first and I think Josh has found a home with us. If he were egotistical and consumed with earning more money he might consider another offer. Fortunately for us Josh has gained financial security here and likes living here.

If Pastner had been on Arizona's staff when Olsen left, he would not have been elevated to head coach. He got the job here due to desperation.

(03-25-2013 01:04 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 11:59 PM)bin painter Wrote:  who cares if Josh leaves? he hasent done very much since he been here. and we can list the seasons

1. ok cupboard was bear and we can excuse the first season

2. caught lightning in a bottle and got lucky as hell to beat UTEP in the CUSA to even make it to the dance. 1 and done

3.medicore play all year. lost biggest games of the year and again 1 and done in the tourney

4. this season...pitiful start. again! big fat L's when the games count the most. ran through a weak confrence to rack up the wins! oh yeah and a peach of a game against Xavier sprinkled in and what do we get. a miracle to beat a bad St. Marys team and beat down by a decent team. Again.

So let Josh go if he got somthing better on the line.
I know we can do better! Go Tigers!

I'll leave you to your opinion about whether or not Josh is good or not, but point #4 contains and EGREGIOUS error which I cannot ignore. St Marys win was not a miracle. We were the better team. It was only a close game at the end because we lost focus. I'm not sure, and will not waste the time to look it up, but if we did not lead in that game wire to wire, it was an insignificant amount of time that we didn't.

It hasn't been Josh's coaching as much as it's this group of Tigers, IMO. As much as we'd love to have five guys from Memphis starting, it just hasn't worked this time around. Maybe they're too familiar with each other and are so used to playing against each other (except when they played AAU together) that they can't play as a team. That may be a bogus idea, but they look like 5 individuals out there on offense at times. At best there's three guys playing together on offense.

Josh would never lay the blame on the players, even when it's their fault, but I believe this current group of upper classmen are the problem. (except for Geron, he plays really hard; and not DJ, of course, but he's gone) Josh can take Shaq, Geron and the recruits coming in and have a solid team.
I think we've seen what the guys that have been here are capable of and ...it's just not equal to the hype that was generated about them when they came in. They're not kings, or Greek gods; they're OK. And there's nothing wrong with being OK, it's just time to bring along the next group.

(03-25-2013 01:16 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(03-25-2013 01:09 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(03-25-2013 12:26 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 10:16 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  In the last 40 or so years, how many Memphis coaches have left for another job? I wasn't born until '83 so I am thinking only 2. Cal and Bartow. One went to KY, the other to UCLA. Why would anyone want to leave Memphis for USC? Is anyone else seeing this as maybe Parrish trying to stir up some speculation so he gets listeners to his show and readers for his column? Do I want him to go? No. Will it be the end of the world if he does? No. Memphis basketball was relevant before Pastner, Cal, Price, Finch,Kirk.... And it will still be after.

1) Bartow left for Illinois. He left Illinois after one season for UCLA. (See someone has pointed this out already)

2) Why go to USC? Los Angeles, Los Angeles, and Los Angeles. Pac-12 (Underwhelming Big 5 conference), back to his old stomping grounds, and less pressure since it's a football school. And the school has money.

And Memphis basketball wasn't truly relevant until Larry Finch. Before it was relevant to Memphis... But Finch (and company) made it relevant to America.

To discount Kirk is to be mistaken.

Pssst.... Pssst... I mean Finch coming to Memphis out of Melrose... Before Bartow.

Ahhhh, I was in coach mode. Not player mode.