(03-22-2013 11:04 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 09:04 PM)payday Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 08:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 04:44 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I think it is over simplifying things to say this team could not make shots. This team could not run offense. It took bad too many bad shots, it took too many shots they weren't capable of making. Teams that don't run good offense tend to miss a lot of shot. Kilpatrick's shooting percentages for the year tell so much of the story. A guy with touch as good a Kilpatrick should not shoot 30% from three and under 40% from the field. This team missed shots, because it ran bad offense. That simple.

Team missed shots because most of our starters are just role players on decent teams.

So by extrapolation, Cincy isn't even a decent team. Pitiful.

Correct. Have you watched them this year?

Correct? Cincy doesn't even have a decent team? Have you ever been a fan of them?

(03-22-2013 11:29 PM)payday Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 11:04 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 09:04 PM)payday Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 08:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 04:44 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I think it is over simplifying things to say this team could not make shots. This team could not run offense. It took bad too many bad shots, it took too many shots they weren't capable of making. Teams that don't run good offense tend to miss a lot of shot. Kilpatrick's shooting percentages for the year tell so much of the story. A guy with touch as good a Kilpatrick should not shoot 30% from three and under 40% from the field. This team missed shots, because it ran bad offense. That simple.

Team missed shots because most of our starters are just role players on decent teams.

So by extrapolation, Cincy isn't even a decent team. Pitiful.

Correct. Have you watched them this year?

Correct? Cincy doesn't even have a decent team? Have you ever been a fan of them?

I've been a fan and am an alum for a long time. If you ever read any of my posts on here you wouldn't even ask such a silly question.

At some point you need to take off your rosy glasses and be even a little bit objective.

What do you consider to be a decent team? AP Top 25 maybe? Cincy lost by 3 to one of them. Is Creighton a decent team?

Seven AP Top 25 teams lost their first game. Six of those lost to teams seeded 11-15. Were they decent teams?

I've been a fan much longer than you. You need to take off the blinders

Make that 7 out of 8. 11 seed Minnesota just blew out UCLA

(03-22-2013 11:43 PM)payday Wrote:  Make that 7 out of 8. 11 seed Minnesota just blew out UCLA

Perfect. My bracket is in shambles.

(03-22-2013 11:48 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 11:43 PM)payday Wrote:  Make that 7 out of 8. 11 seed Minnesota just blew out UCLA

Perfect. My bracket is in shambles.

Everyone that used reason in making out their brackets now has their brackets in shambles.

Quick question that I'm not sure any of you guys can answer: Who is the projected starting point guard next year? It doesn't look like there is a true point guard on the roster to me unless you count Jeremiah Davis (played point in hs I believe) or Guyn (in which case, UC is in trouble - my opinion), so I'm just wondering if anyone may know something I don't? Surely Mick's not going to count on a freshman combo guard to come in & run the point? Right? Mick is not a guy that gets caught off guard or doesn't have a plan... So maybe one of you can help me figure out what he is thinking here?

(03-23-2013 08:53 AM)cincy11 Wrote:  Quick question that I'm not sure any of you guys can answer: Who is the projected starting point guard next year? It doesn't look like there is a true point guard on the roster to me unless you count Jeremiah Davis (played point in hs I believe) or Guyn (in which case, UC is in trouble - my opinion), so I'm just wondering if anyone may know something I don't? Surely Mick's not going to count on a freshman combo guard to come in & run the point? Right? Mick is not a guy that gets caught off guard or doesn't have a plan... So maybe one of you can help me figure out what he is thinking here?

I believe Mick has been quoted as saying that JDIII is not a pg. I believe he is the best option though. Great handles and court vision.

(03-22-2013 08:16 PM)Murph29 Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 08:15 PM)payday Wrote:  It seems to alternate from year to year. One year the BE gets 5 teams in the E8 and the next they get 1. But that one has always made it to the Final Four.

UofL better come through and at least get to the FF.

Sorry guys, but I don't really give a damn how the BE does (outside of tourney credits).

(03-22-2013 08:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Team missed shots because most of our starters are just role players on decent teams.

My prediction for next season is three freshman starters.

(03-23-2013 08:53 AM)cincy11 Wrote:  Quick question that I'm not sure any of you guys can answer: Who is the projected starting point guard next year? It doesn't look like there is a true point guard on the roster to me unless you count Jeremiah Davis (played point in hs I believe) or Guyn (in which case, UC is in trouble - my opinion), so I'm just wondering if anyone may know something I don't? Surely Mick's not going to count on a freshman combo guard to come in & run the point? Right? Mick is not a guy that gets caught off guard or doesn't have a plan... So maybe one of you can help me figure out what he is thinking here?

Guyn is a good scrappy defensive role player who can use fouls, but unfortunately, not a starting PG.

I hope Caupain is the real deal.

(03-23-2013 11:53 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(03-23-2013 08:53 AM)cincy11 Wrote:  Quick question that I'm not sure any of you guys can answer: Who is the projected starting point guard next year? It doesn't look like there is a true point guard on the roster to me unless you count Jeremiah Davis (played point in hs I believe) or Guyn (in which case, UC is in trouble - my opinion), so I'm just wondering if anyone may know something I don't? Surely Mick's not going to count on a freshman combo guard to come in & run the point? Right? Mick is not a guy that gets caught off guard or doesn't have a plan... So maybe one of you can help me figure out what he is thinking here?

Guyn is a good scrappy defensive role player who can use fouls, but unfortunately, not a starting PG.

I hope Caupain is the real deal.

(03-22-2013 05:12 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 04:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Not what I expected. Losing to a really non athletic team like Creighton.
Very surprised that we did not trap them or get any fast break points.
Preseason ranked in all of they publications, lots of hype, etc. No elite 8, no final fours, not sure if next season is any better.

I'm not surprised by the result. Creighton can shoot, hit free throws, and play smart bball. I'll take that over athletic low bball IQ. The better team won today.

Listened to the post game. Coach Davis called this a great year. Can't say I agree with his opinion. He highlighted we are one of the few BE schools to go to 3 straight NCAA's. I guess if this is their goal, then good for them. Hope they plan on making great 8's or Final 4's at some point.

First round exit last 2 of 3 years is not good. Huggs never did as poorly in any three year period until this year.

(03-22-2013 05:44 PM)payday Wrote:  Lest we forget, Cincy hasn't been to an E8 since 1996. There were 8 opportunities to do so Pre Cronin. And then the wasteland years. It's just not that easy.

It is not at all easy: you've got to be good and lucky. Huggs' teams were plenty good, but not lucky. Hard to hold that against the coach. Cronin's teams just aren't that good.

(03-23-2013 12:04 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 05:12 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 04:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Not what I expected. Losing to a really non athletic team like Creighton.
Very surprised that we did not trap them or get any fast break points.
Preseason ranked in all of they publications, lots of hype, etc. No elite 8, no final fours, not sure if next season is any better.

I'm not surprised by the result. Creighton can shoot, hit free throws, and play smart bball. I'll take that over athletic low bball IQ. The better team won today.

Listened to the post game. Coach Davis called this a great year. Can't say I agree with his opinion. He highlighted we are one of the few BE schools to go to 3 straight NCAA's. I guess if this is their goal, then good for them. Hope they plan on making great 8's or Final 4's at some point.

First round exit last 2 of 3 years is not good. Huggs never did as poorly in any three year period until this year.

Nice try. Beat Missouri and Texas in the first round the last two years.

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(03-23-2013 12:48 PM)Bearcat04 Wrote:  

(03-23-2013 12:04 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 05:12 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 04:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Not what I expected. Losing to a really non athletic team like Creighton.
Very surprised that we did not trap them or get any fast break points.
Preseason ranked in all of they publications, lots of hype, etc. No elite 8, no final fours, not sure if next season is any better.

I'm not surprised by the result. Creighton can shoot, hit free throws, and play smart bball. I'll take that over athletic low bball IQ. The better team won today.

Listened to the post game. Coach Davis called this a great year. Can't say I agree with his opinion. He highlighted we are one of the few BE schools to go to 3 straight NCAA's. I guess if this is their goal, then good for them. Hope they plan on making great 8's or Final 4's at some point.

First round exit last 2 of 3 years is not good. Huggs never did as poorly in any three year period until this year.

Nice try. Beat Missouri and Texas in the first round the last two years.

You are correct. Sorry.

(03-23-2013 12:04 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 05:12 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 04:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Not what I expected. Losing to a really non athletic team like Creighton.
Very surprised that we did not trap them or get any fast break points.
Preseason ranked in all of they publications, lots of hype, etc. No elite 8, no final fours, not sure if next season is any better.

I'm not surprised by the result. Creighton can shoot, hit free throws, and play smart bball. I'll take that over athletic low bball IQ. The better team won today.

Listened to the post game. Coach Davis called this a great year. Can't say I agree with his opinion. He highlighted we are one of the few BE schools to go to 3 straight NCAA's. I guess if this is their goal, then good for them. Hope they plan on making great 8's or Final 4's at some point.

First round exit last 2 of 3 years is not good. Huggs never did as poorly in any three year period until this year.

2013 is UC's only first round exit. 2012 UC made the Sweet 16. 2011 UC won it's first game against Mizzou and lost to eventual tourney champ UConn.

(03-23-2013 12:07 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(03-22-2013 05:44 PM)payday Wrote:  Lest we forget, Cincy hasn't been to an E8 since 1996. There were 8 opportunities to do so Pre Cronin. And then the wasteland years. It's just not that easy.

It is not at all easy: you've got to be good and lucky. Huggs' teams were plenty good, but not lucky. Hard to hold that against the coach. Cronin's teams just aren't that good.

That is a laughable justification. It was all luck, right.