Fascinating stuff.

(03-17-2013 08:36 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Fascinating stuff.

I remember them winning it...incredible game. Houston was legit that year.

Avoiding it like the plague.

Yea, they should show something else in the Houston media market during that time.

I'm not a basketball historian, but they made it sound like V was the first to come up with fouling to extend a game and the triangle in two. The first one seems like a bit of reach. Not sure on the second one. True or False?

the whole foul thing was on there because they were tied

The early 1980's was a great time in college basketball. Jordan, Olajuwon, Ewing, Sampson, Dominque Wilkins. No one and dones. I loved that time. Made me a basketball fan. This documentary captured it beautifully.

(03-17-2013 11:23 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The early 1980's was a great time in college basketball. Jordan, Olajuwon, Ewing, Sampson, Dominque Wilkins. No one and dones. I loved that time. Made me a basketball fan. This documentary captured it beautifully.

I always believed college basketball peaked around 1984 or 1985. It is still a great game, but no where near the level during the early to mid 80s. It was great during much of the 70s as well, but the 80's was special.

Question... The webber state court had a 3 point line, does anyone know why?

(03-17-2013 11:34 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  Question... The webber state court had a 3 point line, does anyone know why?

The official three point line came into being in 1985 or 1986, however, earlier in the 1980's, some conferences experimented with the three point line for one year. The shot clock was experimented with in a similar fashion before becoming the rule

(03-17-2013 11:34 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  Question... The webber state court had a 3 point line, does anyone know why?

Yeah cause at that time wasn't the ABA the only league to have a 3pt shot?

from wikipedia (I know it is wikipedia, but it is accurate as for as I remember)

Quote:The three-point rule was first tested at the collegiate level in a 1945 NCAA game between Columbia and Fordham. However, professional basketball was the first to adopt the rule on a permanent basis. The short-lived American Basketball League did so in 1961, and the Eastern Professional Basketball League followed in its 1963–64 season. The three-point shot later became popularized by the original American Basketball Association after its introduction in the 1967–68 season. During the 1970s, the ABA used the three-point shot, along with the slam dunk, as a marketing tool to compete with the National Basketball Association (NBA). In the 1979–80 season, the NBA adopted the three-point shot despite the view of many that it was a gimmick. [2] Chris Ford is credited with making the first 3 point-shot in NBA history on October 12, 1979.

The sport's international governing body, FIBA, introduced the three-point line in 1984, at a distance of 6.25 m (20.5 ft).

The NCAA's Southern Conference became the first collegiate conference to use the three-point rule, adopting a 22-foot (6.7 m) line in 1980. The first collegiate team to score a three-pointer was Western Carolina University. Over the following five years, NCAA conferences differed in their use of the rule and the distance they required for a three-point shot. The NCAA adopted the 19-foot, 9-inch line nationally in 1986 despite a strong debate over whether the shot was a gimmick. [3] In 2007, the NCAA lengthened the men's three point distance to 20 feet 9 inches, with the rule coming into effect at the beginning of the 2008–09 season.

(03-17-2013 11:41 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-17-2013 11:34 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  Question... The webber state court had a 3 point line, does anyone know why?

The official three point line came into being in 1985 or 1986, however, earlier in the 1980's, some conferences experimented with the three point line for one year. The shot clock was experimented with in a similar fashion before becoming the rule

thanks...

Kind of seems like an unfair advantage for conferences who didn't have to experiment... You go the entire season strategizing with a certain set of rules and then all of a sudden in the tournament you have to play by others. The shot clock must have been a pain in the ass

The three point shot was used rather sparingly by UAB during its experimental year in 1982-83. UAB took only 109 shots all year. I think it was only used during conference games. The NCAA tournament did not have the three point shot or shot clock

As for as the shot clock, the Sun Belt was one of the first to use a shot clock. This was a much better Sun Belt than the one today. Their rules were that the shot clock was a 45 second clock that was cut off in the last 4 minutes of the game, so that if you had the lead at the end of the game, you could still take the air out of the ball, which a lot of teams did at the time.

MT vs. Western Carolina was the first game in the modern era, in which the 3-pointer was used.

WCU hit the first one on us.

But... since that game... we have hit a trey in every game, including that one.

Was flicking and saw it on. Changed it once I noticed the game was in the final minute.

Watched it. I can how Houston fans would NOT want to watch it. I barely remember the game but seeing the video brings it all back. I had forgot about the book that came out and how the NCAA virtually cleared Valvano from most of that's book's allegations. He wasn't a saint, but he was a great coach and person. Love, think, cry.

(03-18-2013 12:01 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The three point shot was used rather sparingly by UAB during its experimental year in 1982-83. UAB took only 109 shots all year. I think it was only used during conference games. The NCAA tournament did not have the three point shot or shot clock

As for as the shot clock, the Sun Belt was one of the first to use a shot clock. This was a much better Sun Belt than the one today. Their rules were that the shot clock was a 45 second clock that was cut off in the last 4 minutes of the game, so that if you had the lead at the end of the game, you could still take the air out of the ball, which a lot of teams did at the time.

The Sun Belt was a conference that was feared by all in its early days. A lot of that was UAB's rocket ship start that has to be one of, if not the the fastest rise of any D1 program in history.

(03-18-2013 08:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Watched it. I can how Houston fans would NOT want to watch it. I barely remember the game but seeing the video brings it all back. I had forgot about the book that came out and how the NCAA virtually cleared Valvano from most of that's book's allegations. He wasn't a saint, but he was a great coach and person. Love, think, cry.

Yeah, at the time I can see it being hard for Houston fans, but now with all that time to reflect on it there comes a time when you have to acknowledge some moments transcend the outcome of a game.

(03-18-2013 08:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Watched it. I can how Houston fans would NOT want to watch it. I barely remember the game but seeing the video brings it all back. I had forgot about the book that came out and how the NCAA virtually cleared Valvano from most of that's book's allegations. He wasn't a saint, but he was a great coach and person. Love, think, cry.

+1

He was cleared of pretty much everything. The book was proven to be almost entirely a lie and Valvano was the subject of a witch-hunt. I can understand why State fans are extremely bitter. It's really a great shame. They got hosed and a great man was dragged through the mud (and to this day, many don't realize he was fully and completely cleared of almost everything). Such is the problem with incredible and wild accusations- even if 99% lies, people assume you were doing much of the wrong and/or never even hear you were cleared. That witch-hunt set them back 20 years. They had to hire Les Robinson, etc., and it's taken them years to recover. When people point and laugh at their fall, they don't fully understand how much they got screwed. While I don't have much love lost for other schools in the state, NCSU doesn't bother me nearly as much as UNC-CHeat, etc., and what happened to them was simply wrong.