I bought a new Focus Titanium last week. I got a Ford partner discount and there was a $2500 President's Day incentive, so I think it was a good deal.

Someone has to buy the new cars.

Bought two-year old Toyota. Once paid off I kept paying the car payment to myself in another account. So my next car is already paid for.

I no longer by new vehicles.

(02-28-2013 01:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The last new vehicle I bought was in 1985...and it will be the last. It is just not a very good financial decision. The cost of these things has skyrocketed because of the Union contract entitlements.

I looked at a Chevy pickup recently that has a sticker price higher than my first home.

So what explains the price of a Toyota or a Nissan? I guess you can say it about the price of a Hyundai or Kia-if they were built in Korea.

The dollar's decline plays a part in increased foreign car prices.

Would have liked to have bought some of those "clunkers" that Obama got rid of when he got elected. There seemed to be some pretty nice rides included in those. Could not understand why some people wanted to get rid of them unless they had some hidden problems. Have normally bought new cars, but probably will never do so again.

(02-28-2013 01:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  So what explains the price of a Toyota or a Nissan? I guess you can say it about the price of a Hyundai or Kia-if they were built in Korea.

Rob, let's say Ford is selling a pickup for $30k because that's what it costs to make and still earn a profit, and Toyota can build the same truck for $25k, then guess what? Toyota can either add more bells and whistles plus add extra quality to the vehicle and sell it for the same price. I have a Toyota Tacoma and my company car is a Ford F150. There is no comparison.

Also, if Toyota kept the price down too far below Ford, people would automatically think the Ford was better simply because it costs more.

You get more for your money when you buy anything that doesn't have a union's hand in it.

Let's not kid ourselves that the price of gas hasn't been a factor in a lot of vehicle purchase decisions.

When I wrecked my V8 Dodge pickup (which I loved, but never would have bought if I'd known the price of gas would more than double) last fall, I replaced it with a 4 cylinder Nissan, and fuel economy was THE reason.

The higher price of the little rice burners is at least in significant part due to the increased demand, because the price of gas is killing people.

Thanks for all your help on that, by the way, Mr. President.

(02-28-2013 01:51 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The last new vehicle I bought was in 1985...and it will be the last. It is just not a very good financial decision. The cost of these things has skyrocketed because of the Union contract entitlements.

I looked at a Chevy pickup recently that has a sticker price higher than my first home.

So what explains the price of a Toyota or a Nissan? I guess you can say it about the price of a Hyundai or Kia-if they were built in Korea.

The dollar's decline plays a part in increased foreign car prices.

Yes...that and demand. Toby skipped econ 101.

(02-28-2013 10:04 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Let's not kid ourselves that the price of gas hasn't been a factor in a lot of vehicle purchase decisions.

When I wrecked my V8 Dodge pickup (which I loved, but never would have bought if I'd known the price of gas would more than double) last fall, I replaced it with a 4 cylinder Nissan, and fuel economy was THE reason.

The higher price of the little rice burners is at least in significant part due to the increased demand, because the price of gas is killing people.

Thanks for all your help on that, by the way, Mr. President.

Did your Dodge pickup have a gun rack?

(03-01-2013 08:40 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:51 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The last new vehicle I bought was in 1985...and it will be the last. It is just not a very good financial decision. The cost of these things has skyrocketed because of the Union contract entitlements.

I looked at a Chevy pickup recently that has a sticker price higher than my first home.

So what explains the price of a Toyota or a Nissan? I guess you can say it about the price of a Hyundai or Kia-if they were built in Korea.

The dollar's decline plays a part in increased foreign car prices.

Yes...that and demand. Toby skipped econ 101.

Fo telling someone that they don't understand economics is hilarious!

I bought a new car. Simply because I've never owned a new car. I bought a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. I traded in a paid for BMW and have a credit score in the 800's. My payment is reasonable....to me. I can say that I'll never buy another Chrysler product again. This car hasn't been bad but small stupid stuff breaks and it's annoying. My other car is a 2004 Honda Accord LX with 205,000 miles and I've never had a repair on it. NEVER. My next car will be a Honda. Actually I did put a radio in it after it stopped so I guess there has been a repair. Anyway, Honda for me from now on. FUC American made cars.

BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.

(03-01-2013 11:16 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 10:04 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Let's not kid ourselves that the price of gas hasn't been a factor in a lot of vehicle purchase decisions.

When I wrecked my V8 Dodge pickup (which I loved, but never would have bought if I'd known the price of gas would more than double) last fall, I replaced it with a 4 cylinder Nissan, and fuel economy was THE reason.

The higher price of the little rice burners is at least in significant part due to the increased demand, because the price of gas is killing people.

Thanks for all your help on that, by the way, Mr. President.

Did your Dodge pickup have a gun rack?

Reaching for yet another baseless stereotype, are we?

(02-28-2013 11:57 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 10:59 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:38 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Why would anyone want to buy a new car that loses half its value as you drive it off the lot, especially in an age where you can get detailed history reports of the vehicle via Carfax with the click of a mouse?

Somebody has to buy them new, lackwit.

Agreed, and the poor financial decision is the epitome of America today. It used to be buying a used car was a risk because you didn't know if you were buying a lemon or a salvage and cars were only reliable for about 50k miles. That is no longer the case.

Poor financial decision? If nobody buys new cars, then where do used ones come from?

I think your flawed, idealized notion of how the world works is a bigger problem.

Expired leases.

Yep. I just leased a Caddy for 3 years. I'm not sure if I like it but in 3 years, I'll get something else.

(02-28-2013 09:38 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Why would anyone want to buy a new car that loses half its value as you drive it off the lot,

My immediate family has always purchased new. We'd think about why WE would want to sell a car. And the only way we'd sell it is if there's something wrong with it. "Why would you want to buy someone else's problem?"

We buy new, but we drive 'em into the ground. 200k+ miles, ~15 years, etc. Once it costs more to maintain than it's worth, it's gone. And you wouldn't want to buy it, either, clean CarFax and all. I've had my truck since 2007, and I'll have it until it dies.

If you want a new car every few years, it makes financial sense to buy used. It makes the WORST financial sense to lease. But I'm not going to tell you how to waste your money.

(02-28-2013 08:19 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  When you add piles of regulations, requirements, and oversight it gets pretty darn expensive to manufacture a vehicle... so much so, that new manufacturers will never amount to much (including electric manufacturers).

The cost gets passed along to consumers, which is a truth Libs like to ignore.

Exactly what regulations and associated cost are your talking about?

(02-28-2013 10:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:38 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Why would anyone want to buy a new car that loses half its value as you drive it off the lot, especially in an age where you can get detailed history reports of the vehicle via Carfax with the click of a mouse?

Somebody has to buy them new, lackwit.

Agreed, and the poor financial decision is the epitome of America today. It used to be buying a used car was a risk because you didn't know if you were buying a lemon or a salvage and cars were only reliable for about 50k miles. That is no longer the case.

Yep, unfortunately most folks see a car as some sort of status symbol. Why that is I have no idea.

I'm cheap and still drive a 97 Rodeo (which I did buy new to get rid of my 1984 Bronco which was a piece of crap) . But I know people who buy a new car every other year for the status. To me a car is just to get me from point A to Point B.

Having a new car is a right like healthcare and college. Geez

(03-01-2013 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 08:40 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:51 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The last new vehicle I bought was in 1985...and it will be the last. It is just not a very good financial decision. The cost of these things has skyrocketed because of the Union contract entitlements.

I looked at a Chevy pickup recently that has a sticker price higher than my first home.

So what explains the price of a Toyota or a Nissan? I guess you can say it about the price of a Hyundai or Kia-if they were built in Korea.

The dollar's decline plays a part in increased foreign car prices.

Yes...that and demand. Toby skipped econ 101.

Fo telling someone that they don't understand economics is hilarious!

Only one I see laughing is you. Maybe that should tell you something.

(03-02-2013 01:22 PM)dcCid Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 08:19 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  When you add piles of regulations, requirements, and oversight it gets pretty darn expensive to manufacture a vehicle... so much so, that new manufacturers will never amount to much (including electric manufacturers).

The cost gets passed along to consumers, which is a truth Libs like to ignore.

Exactly what regulations and associated cost are your talking about?

Safety and pollution controls. Who the hell needs the extra cost? Pfft.

(03-02-2013 01:49 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 08:40 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:51 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 01:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  So what explains the price of a Toyota or a Nissan? I guess you can say it about the price of a Hyundai or Kia-if they were built in Korea.

The dollar's decline plays a part in increased foreign car prices.

Yes...that and demand. Toby skipped econ 101.

Fo telling someone that they don't understand economics is hilarious!

Only one I see laughing is you. Maybe that should tell you something.

Yes. It tells me that there are a lot of people on here that know nothing about economics(given that most on here are Republican and/or Libertarian, that is pretty telling).

Ok last night on the radio it said new carpurchasescare up 4%. So someone's lying.