(02-14-2013 08:18 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I said higher education, not college. Higher education in this case may mean college, a trade school, or some kind of vocational training.

Doesn't matter. You can't just give people a free ride til the age of 20 or 22.

Why stop at education? Why doesn't the government buy everyone their first house? Their first car? Why isn't the minimum wage $20 per hour? I mean if you're going to advocate for the state being a nanny to people for a full 1/4 of their lives why not really go for it and just coddle them from cradle to grave?

It amazes me that it's never clicked with liberals that if you provide people less and less incentive to work hard they will not work hard.

This is what I hate about the federal government. Mandatory preschool, that studies have shown the benefits of attending are gone by the end of the third grade........that will be paid for.......wait for it........BY THE STATES!!!!!!!!!!!

mix, I can't believe you think everyone should have their "higher education" paid for. Millions of people have figured out how to cover schooling beyond high school. Hell, the government never gave me a dime for higher education nor did my parents, but somehow I managed to get it done.

Cradle to grave......... Horse crap.

(02-14-2013 07:36 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  You can't stand by and do nothing and then ***** and moan when they grow up to be thugs.

I really don't get it. Against abortion and other birth control so you want them to be born.

When they're born you don't want to feed them or give them an education

When they get out of high school you don't want to give them a higher education

and then when they repeat the cycle they should've known better, why didn't someone do something about it?

That's asinine, I never said or implied anything of the sort.

Where do you get I'm against birth control? I wish more of em used it, there would b e less people in need of help.

I want them to be educated and certainly to be fed. I just wished more people that don't want kids or cant take care of them wouldn't have them. Once they're born the parents need to be held accountable for the kids and grow the **** up and act like parents.

I don't want to give anybody a higher education. I paid for mine, they can pay for theirs. If they cant afford one then learn a trade.

They cycle needs to be broken, but as long as the system is this easy to abuse and there is a whole segment of the population that doesn't want to make something of themselves it will continue.

I want each individual to realize and understand that there is something called personal responsibility.

(02-14-2013 03:16 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Meanwhile Obamanomics just got destroyed by a well respected neurologist raised by a single mother with a 3rd grade education.

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(02-14-2013 10:03 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 03:16 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Meanwhile Obamanomics just got destroyed by a well respected neurologist raised by a single mother with a 3rd grade education.

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+ infinity. Personal Responsibility. His mother had it and passed it on to him.

Pre-K has already shown itself to be a universal bust in making improvements.

Coloring and reciting alphabet letters a year earlier makes no difference by the time you hit even middle school? YOU DON'T SAY.

Still shocked at how quickly this went from great Republican idea to the end of mankind overnight

(02-14-2013 10:32 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Still shocked at how quickly this went from great Republican idea to the end of mankind overnight

Dubya aint a Republican by my definition of the word.

(02-14-2013 10:34 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 10:32 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Still shocked at how quickly this went from great Republican idea to the end of mankind overnight

Dubya aint a Republican by my definition of the word.

Actually I meant the current administrations of Oklahoma, Georgia, and Alabama

(02-14-2013 02:43 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 02:38 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  This moron just won't stop.

First- No money for this

Second- It benefits NO ONE, except gov't trying to tax more people

Third- Just more targets for school shootings

Fourth- Standard approach seen by 20th C dictators/tyrants.

No justification for this, but I bet the Obama apologists will try, just b/c they like to see others struggle.

Too bad you missed preschool and every grade after that. Moron.

Robert you are such a MAObama worshipper it is sickening you Socialist piece of garbage.You have been indoctrinated just likes these kids.

(02-14-2013 10:41 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 10:34 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 10:32 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Still shocked at how quickly this went from great Republican idea to the end of mankind overnight

Dubya aint a Republican by my definition of the word.

Actually I meant the current administrations of Oklahoma, Georgia, and Alabama

Clearly the concept of states doing their own thing is over the head of your average liberal..

I could give a fat rats behind what anyone (dem or rep) does in Oklahoma regarding pre-school.

The decrease in the quality of American education correlates directly with the amount of Federal involvement. We don't need any additional Federal meddling.

Guess everyone missed the part where Obama said he wanted to let the states come up with a plan, and the feds would help (meaning financially, not "you must use our plan"). Like in, I dunno, states that are broke.

(02-14-2013 10:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Guess everyone missed the part where Obama said he wanted to let the states come up with a plan, and the feds would help (meaning financially, not "you must use our plan"). Like in, I dunno, states that are broke.

He who pays the piper calls the tune...

Federal "help" with roads is why we have a national drinking age. Whenever they pay for something they set the rules.

(02-14-2013 10:32 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Still shocked at how quickly this went from great Republican idea to the end of mankind overnight

Never was a great Republican idea.

You make this stuff up b/c you don't want to face the flaws in your feelings-based approach.

(02-14-2013 10:55 PM)Claw Wrote:  The decrease in the quality of American education correlates directly with the amount of Federal involvement.

It also correlates with the rise in the popularity of soccer.

Nothing wrong with preschool. Heck, my kid is in preschool right now. I just don't think it should be mandated.

(02-15-2013 09:14 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Nothing wrong with preschool. Heck, my kid is in preschool right now. I just don't think it should be mandated.

Absolutely.

It also shouldn't be gov't subsidized.

(02-14-2013 10:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Guess everyone missed the part where Obama said he wanted to let the states come up with a plan, and the feds would help (meaning financially, not "you must use our plan"). Like in, I dunno, states that are broke.

Yeah and when a state says no thanks the federal government will withhold funds from other programs essentially strong-arming the states into doing it the way the federal govt wants them to. Look, states are doing this on their own. The federal govt doesn't need to stick its nose in and screw up what has the potential to be good preschool systems run by these states.

Cannot really be "pre-school" if it's mandatory school.