Everybody/everything but us is the problem.

Signed,

"John" Wayne LaPierre

Blaming violent movies, games, crazy people. More guns needed in hands of "good guys" to stop the "bad guys". Obamas fault for cutting some programs. Wants Congress to get armed security in EVERY school. Wants to help with training to fortify schools- "School shield safety program". John Wayne didn't take questions.

A couple of crazies interrupting with signs. Do they not realize that it doesn't do anything to make the situation better? It only makes the other side look just as stupid as the NRA.

The crazies were shot immediately with thousands of rounds of ammunition from semi-automatic rifles. The scene made the ending of Bonnie and Clyde look pedestrian in comparison.

Nice of the NRA to offer to pay America some of the cost for putting an armed security guard in every school with their billions in profits. Oh wait, they didn't offer to do that - how convenient. They offered to train these security details (who they claim will come from active and retired police departments so how much training do they need?).

The NRA is a joke.

(12-21-2012 12:45 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The crazies were shot immediately with thousands of rounds of ammunition from semi-automatic rifles. The scene made the ending of Bonnie and Clyde look pedestrian in comparison.

Nice of the NRA to offer to pay America some of the cost for putting an armed security guard in every school with their billions in profits. Oh wait, they didn't offer to do that - how convenient. They offered to train these security details (who they claim will come from active and retired police departments so how much training do they need?).

The NRA is a joke.

Brilliant. So now when a student wants to kill some fellow students, all he has to do is disarm some retired old cop.

These guys are too funny.

(12-21-2012 01:57 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 12:45 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The crazies were shot immediately with thousands of rounds of ammunition from semi-automatic rifles. The scene made the ending of Bonnie and Clyde look pedestrian in comparison.

Nice of the NRA to offer to pay America some of the cost for putting an armed security guard in every school with their billions in profits. Oh wait, they didn't offer to do that - how convenient. They offered to train these security details (who they claim will come from active and retired police departments so how much training do they need?).

The NRA is a joke.

Brilliant. So now when a student wants to kill some fellow students, all he has to do is disarm some retired old cop.

These guys are too funny.

If you think its so easy, why don't you try to disarm a police officer? I seriously doubt that any retired officer that would be stationed at schools would not be fully capable of maintaining his weapon and control over any situation.

(12-21-2012 12:45 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The crazies were shot immediately with thousands of rounds of ammunition from semi-automatic rifles. The scene made the ending of Bonnie and Clyde look pedestrian in comparison.

Nice of the NRA to offer to pay America some of the cost for putting an armed security guard in every school with their billions in profits. Oh wait, they didn't offer to do that - how convenient. They offered to train these security details (who they claim will come from active and retired police departments so how much training do they need?).

The NRA is a joke.

Actually, it was more for training and some logistics(planning how to fortify the schools). THey still wanted Congress to to spend taxpayers hard earned money to pay for the actual fortifying every school.

(12-21-2012 02:01 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 01:57 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 12:45 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The crazies were shot immediately with thousands of rounds of ammunition from semi-automatic rifles. The scene made the ending of Bonnie and Clyde look pedestrian in comparison.

Nice of the NRA to offer to pay America some of the cost for putting an armed security guard in every school with their billions in profits. Oh wait, they didn't offer to do that - how convenient. They offered to train these security details (who they claim will come from active and retired police departments so how much training do they need?).

The NRA is a joke.

Brilliant. So now when a student wants to kill some fellow students, all he has to do is disarm some retired old cop.

These guys are too funny.

If you think its so easy, why don't you try to disarm a police officer? I seriously doubt that any retired officer that would be stationed at schools would not be fully capable of maintaining his weapon and control over any situation.

Actually, I used to work out with police officers and the thing we worked on the most was learning how to keep from being disarmed.

It's actually easier than you think.

(12-21-2012 01:57 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 12:45 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The crazies were shot immediately with thousands of rounds of ammunition from semi-automatic rifles. The scene made the ending of Bonnie and Clyde look pedestrian in comparison.

Nice of the NRA to offer to pay America some of the cost for putting an armed security guard in every school with their billions in profits. Oh wait, they didn't offer to do that - how convenient. They offered to train these security details (who they claim will come from active and retired police departments so how much training do they need?).

The NRA is a joke.

Brilliant. So now when a student wants to kill some fellow students, all he has to do is disarm some retired old cop.

These guys are too funny.

Or he could just bring a gun from home into the classroom, clown.

(12-21-2012 02:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 02:01 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 01:57 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 12:45 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The crazies were shot immediately with thousands of rounds of ammunition from semi-automatic rifles. The scene made the ending of Bonnie and Clyde look pedestrian in comparison.

Nice of the NRA to offer to pay America some of the cost for putting an armed security guard in every school with their billions in profits. Oh wait, they didn't offer to do that - how convenient. They offered to train these security details (who they claim will come from active and retired police departments so how much training do they need?).

The NRA is a joke.

Brilliant. So now when a student wants to kill some fellow students, all he has to do is disarm some retired old cop.

These guys are too funny.

If you think its so easy, why don't you try to disarm a police officer? I seriously doubt that any retired officer that would be stationed at schools would not be fully capable of maintaining his weapon and control over any situation.

Actually, I used to work out with police officers and the thing we worked on the most was learning how to keep from being disarmed.

It's actually easier than you think.

If thats the case lets ban police from having guns because a criminal might disarm them and use their gun to commit a crime. Come on people, get real here. An armed officer or retired officer would not in any way endanger students at a school.
By your logic we should remove armed guards from airports as well. Would you feel safer at an airport then?

NRA Logic:

Don't touch my second amendment Mr. Government.

Mr. Government, please put together a national database of the mentally ill.

Quote:Don't touch my second amendment Mr. Government.

Mr. Government, please put together a national database of the mentally ill.

Is there a conflict between those two statements? How so?

Seems to me that trying to compile a list of persons based on their mental state just might be a minor infringement of your right to privacy.

But I did see a tweet that 38 states already have them.

(12-21-2012 03:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Seems to me that trying to compile a list of persons based on their mental state just might be a minor infringement of your right to privacy.

It may indeed be; I would want to hear a lot more about the issue before I agreed to support such an idea. But from my point of view (and, I guess, from the NRA's point of view) the right to privacy is not guaranteed by the federal Constitution. The right to keep and bear arms is. An important distinction.

Quote:But I did see a tweet that 38 states already have them.

I am willing to grant states far, FAR more latitude in such matters than I am willing to grant to the federal government. Even so, I readily admit that such "lists" can be easily subject to political or personal misuse/abuse/negligence/etc. They should be compiled and handled with the utmost caution and care.

But we do have Griswold v. Connecticut.