(12-13-2012 05:48 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I'm not trying to force ND's hand by any means here, I was just contributing to the thread about bringing on UC and UConn. Its got to be both right? Not 1 or the other, to keep it even numbers in football. So instead of forcing ND's hand, you just let them decide on the matter, or you don't expand at all for now and let the 14/15 setup play out for awhile.

Maybe I misunderstood you. If you are saying that hypothetically if we had to expand then yes, i would offer a spot to nd and uc, and then i would offer a spot to uc and uconn if nd said "no." However, i do not think that we have to expand in football. So, unless ND wants a spot and needs a partner, then i think we should wait. And given that there is no way that ND is going to join during/immediately after a season where they are ranked #1 going into a NCG, I do not think we should expand in football.

As much as I feel sorry for Cincinnati, I have to say NO WAY should the ACC invite any more teams to join unless:

1) Notre Dame wants to become a football member and we need a 16th
2) A current football member leaves (but not if 2 leave together)
3) ESPN says they want to help us launch the ACC channel but we need to add Cincinnati to make it work.
4) Jim Donnan, who apparently knows kung fu, threatens to beat us all up if we don't.

Just say no to UConn and any of the big least hoops schools.

I would strongly like to see Cincinnati brought in. They are a quality Sports program and have great fans and sitting between Louisville and Pittsburgh on the Ohio river makes a great rivalry pairing for both. easy driving distance for large fan base turn out at Paul Brown Stadium. Lots of Hotel space, Great Resturants and nightlife on weekends as well as Family trip to Kings Island for the Younger ones.
Who knows down the road if ND joins for FB then evens out. Maybe Big 12 has issues and WVU could slide in at a later date.

So when the CYO schools vote to disband football does bigleasthomer change his username to homelesshomer?

Good question, I wonder how many times he will have to edit that horrible signature of his between now and the beginning of next football season. How much more bling bling can it get?

(12-13-2012 07:00 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I would strongly like to see Cincinnati brought in. They are a quality Sports program and have great fans and sitting between Louisville and Pittsburgh on the Ohio river makes a great rivalry pairing for both. easy driving distance for large fan base turn out at Paul Brown Stadium. Lots of Hotel space, Great Resturants and nightlife on weekends as well as Family trip to Kings Island for the Younger ones.
Who knows down the road if ND joins for FB then evens out. Maybe Big 12 has issues and WVU could slide in at a later date.

I believe Cincy would be a solid add.

Sadly there is nobody else besides them in that pile of rubble worth adding.

Cincinnati would make a great addition. World class wonderful city between UL and Pitt, addition of good rivals, new Ohio market and recruiting routes and great tradition and solid recent success in many sports.

Would an ACC/BE merger make it more likely or less likely that the B1G could poach UVA and another ACC school of their choice?

(12-13-2012 07:48 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Would an ACC/BE merger make it more likely or less likely that the B1G could poach UVA and another ACC school of their choice?

A merger with the current big east would be suicide. Why would the ACC, want to tie their future up with that hodge-podge of teams? Spread out from coast to coast from Connecticut to South Florida. The ACC took the teams they wanted. No more merging is needed.

Edit: to answer your question, YES teams would leave in mass if there were a merger.

(12-13-2012 07:13 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Good question, I wonder how many times he will have to edit that horrible signature of his between now and the beginning of next football season. How much more bling bling can it get?

You sir just found the silver lining in all of conference expansion. I really don't care what happens now, so long as I get to watch that guy change his logo every 15 minutes.

(12-13-2012 07:54 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 07:48 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Would an ACC/BE merger make it more likely or less likely that the B1G could poach UVA and another ACC school of their choice?

A merger with the current big east would be suicide. Why would the ACC, want to tie their future up with that hodge-podge of teams? Spread out from coast to coast from Connecticut to South Florida. The ACC took the teams they wanted. No more merging is needed.

+1

(12-13-2012 07:13 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Good question, I wonder how many times he will have to edit that horrible signature of his between now and the beginning of next football season. How much more bling bling can it get?

Homeboy needs to go to Sharper Image and get himself one of those Sonic Wave thingamabobs to polish that collection of turds (present company excepted, of course)

(12-13-2012 07:08 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  So when the CYO schools vote to disband football does bigleasthomer change his username to homelesshomer?

(12-13-2012 06:53 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  Just say no to UConn and any of the big least hoops schools.

Yes Clemson doesn't want to finish any lower than 15th in hoops. Just f'ing with you Cat.

(12-13-2012 08:15 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 06:53 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  Just say no to UConn and any of the big least hoops schools.

Yes Clemson doesn't want to finish any lower than 15th in hoops.

No idiot, it's about football.

There simply isn't enough talent, not even mentioning the high level talent, north of PA for 3 schools to compete at a high level. You add UConn and you pretty much assure that Syracuse, BC, and UConn will be at best .500 teams and most likely battling it out to stay out of the basement every year. Remember that you are now in a situation you have never been in.....behind Rutgers in conference prestige by a wide margin. Gettingh quality players out of NJ was already tougher with the improvements Rutgers has made in their program in the past decade, they can now sell games against the Buckeyes, The Wolverines, the Badgers, the Cornhuskers, and most assuredly the Nittany Lions every year.

Adding UConn weakens the entire conference not only because they are a crap football program and always will be a crap football program, but because it also weakens the two almost-Canadian schools we already have. They could be the best team in hoops for the next 20 years and in the long run because of how football has not only passed, but lapped basketball twice in level of importance it would be a loss for the conference.

At least you're concerned about SU's well being.

(12-13-2012 08:29 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 08:15 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 06:53 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  Just say no to UConn and any of the big least hoops schools.

Yes Clemson doesn't want to finish any lower than 15th in hoops.

No idiot, it's about football.

There simply isn't enough talent, not even mentioning the high level talent, north of PA for 3 schools to compete at a high level. You add UConn and you pretty much assure that Syracuse, BC, and UConn will be at best .500 teams and most likely battling it out to stay out of the basement every year. Remember that you are now in a situation you have never been in.....behind Rutgers in conference prestige by a wide margin. Gettingh quality players out of NJ was already tougher with the improvements Rutgers has made in their program in the past decade, they can now sell games against the Buckeyes, The Wolverines, the Badgers, the Cornhuskers, and most assuredly the Nittany Lions every year.

Adding UConn weakens the entire conference not only because they are a crap football program and always will be a crap football program, but because it also weakens the two almost-Canadian schools we already have. They could be the best team in hoops for the next 20 years and in the long run because of how football has not only passed, but lapped basketball twice in level of importance it would be a loss for the conference.

At least you're concerned about SU's well being.

Only because at the moment we are stuck with you. Hopefully in the near future that isn't a concern, and y'all will be free to commit football suicide by making a basketball addition.

Attention all Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Louisville fans:

I know you guys just joined the conversation (1 year is nothing in college football time), and you're SO new you haven't even become official ACC members yet, so we'll be patient with you all.

Forget about ever adding UConn. Do not give them a second thought. If you want to schedule them, be our guests, but please stop thinking of UConn as a potential ACC member. The fact that BC is only a few miles away rules out UConn. Unless Wake or Duke wants to give up their spot to the Huskies, FORGET about it!

Cincinnati would be an option because of the rich Ohio recruiting grounds, but there is no reason to go beyond 14.5 teams. 15.5 teams is worse than 14.5, not better.

Also FORGET the idea of ever inviting any partial members besides Notre Dame. They were a special case, and quite frankly even with the HUGE football cache they bring it still took a long, long time and a very special set of circumstances to accept them as partial members. The idea of adding Georgetown as a non-football member makes absolutely no sense and is a total NON-STARTER.

You will soon be in the ACC. Your conference mates are Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Wake Forest, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State and Miami. We know you have fond memories of playing those other teams, but now it's time to think about the fun you'll have playing the new guys. So leave the pas behind and look to the future... and WELCOME ABOARD!

(12-13-2012 08:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Attention all Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Louisville fans:

I know you guys just joined the conversation (1 year is nothing in college football time), and you're SO new you haven't even become official ACC members yet, so we'll be patient with you all.

Forget about ever adding UConn. Do not give them a second thought. If you want to schedule them, be our guests, but please stop thinking of UConn as a potential ACC member. The fact that BC is only a few miles away rules out UConn. Unless Wake or Duke wants to give up their spot to the Huskies, FORGET about it!

Cincinnati would be an option because of the rich Ohio recruiting grounds, but there is no reason to go beyond 14.5 teams. 15.5 teams is worse than 14.5, not better.

Also FORGET the idea of ever inviting any partial members besides Notre Dame. They were a special case, and quite frankly even with the HUGE football cache they bring it still took a long, long time and a very special set of circumstances to accept them as partial members. The idea of adding Georgetown as a non-football member makes absolutely no sense and is a total NON-STARTER.

You will soon be in the ACC. Your conference mates are Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Wake Forest, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State and Miami. We know you have fond memories of playing those other teams, but now it's time to think about the fun you'll have playing the new guys. So leave the pas behind and look to the future... and WELCOME ABOARD!

A Pitt fan and am 100% behind your statement!

The only BE team that I'm even somewhat agreeable with is Natti. Thats it. I dont care what happens to Uconn, thanks to one Uconn fan in particular. I dont wish anything bad on them but i dont wish anything good for them either. Regarding georgetown:


NO MORE HYBRIDS!