(11-13-2012 10:02 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:50 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:42 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:40 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  Well that's not what you said for the last 4 years.

For the last year or so OwlNumbers has been pretty clear that he didnt think either party was worth a **** and that divided government would be best.

At least we agree that the GOP isn't worth a ****

I think that's pretty much precisely what I've said for four years and a long time before that.
What I find really interesting is that when I say both parties suck, the response I get from democrats how badly republicans suck (exhibit A above) and the response I get from republicans is how badly democrats suck, but nobody can tell me how or why their own party doesn't suck. I agree with democrats and republicans.

yup. People are more concerned with their team winning than with any serious introspection on their own flaws.

Every thread on this board basically goes like this:

Poster 1--"Obama/GOP/Leftists/Wignuts are stupid jerks."

Poster 2--"You were stupid jerks before us!"

Poster 1--"You hate America/Children/Snowflakes."

Poster 3--"This thread is very reminiscent of the how Hilter did yada yada yada."

RobertN--"[insert something stupid here]"

That sums it up pretty well.

(11-13-2012 09:33 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:31 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  LOL - can we recount 2000 and 2004. If there was any massive fraud, it was in those elections by the Republican'ts

When and where? F'n liar.

http://unitedtruthseekers.com/video/prog...ebookshare

http://truth-out.org/news/item/2319:new-...was-hacked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Connell

A couple of tinfoil hat sites and wikipedia do not an actual conspiracy make.

(11-13-2012 10:02 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:50 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:42 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:40 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  Well that's not what you said for the last 4 years.

For the last year or so OwlNumbers has been pretty clear that he didnt think either party was worth a **** and that divided government would be best.

At least we agree that the GOP isn't worth a ****

I think that's pretty much precisely what I've said for four years and a long time before that.
What I find really interesting is that when I say both parties suck, the response I get from democrats how badly republicans suck (exhibit A above) and the response I get from republicans is how badly democrats suck, but nobody can tell me how or why their own party doesn't suck. I agree with democrats and republicans.

yup. People are more concerned with their team winning than with any serious introspection on their own flaws.

Every thread on this board basically goes like this:

Poster 1--"Obama/GOP/Leftists/Wignuts are stupid jerks."

Poster 2--"You were stupid jerks before us!"

Poster 1--"You hate America/Children/Snowflakes."

Poster 3--"This thread is very reminiscent of the how Hilter did yada yada yada."

RobertN--"[insert something stupid here]"

Hey! I NEVER insert anything stupid!

(11-13-2012 11:08 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 10:02 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:50 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 09:42 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  For the last year or so OwlNumbers has been pretty clear that he didnt think either party was worth a **** and that divided government would be best.

At least we agree that the GOP isn't worth a ****

I think that's pretty much precisely what I've said for four years and a long time before that.
What I find really interesting is that when I say both parties suck, the response I get from democrats how badly republicans suck (exhibit A above) and the response I get from republicans is how badly democrats suck, but nobody can tell me how or why their own party doesn't suck. I agree with democrats and republicans.

yup. People are more concerned with their team winning than with any serious introspection on their own flaws.

Every thread on this board basically goes like this:

Poster 1--"Obama/GOP/Leftists/Wignuts are stupid jerks."

Poster 2--"You were stupid jerks before us!"

Poster 1--"You hate America/Children/Snowflakes."

Poster 3--"This thread is very reminiscent of the how Hilter did yada yada yada."

RobertN--"[insert something stupid here]"

Hey! I NEVER insert anything stupid!

How did you get from Constitution to petition

(11-13-2012 11:08 AM)Smaug Wrote:  A couple of tinfoil hat sites and wikipedia do not an actual conspiracy make.

Just look at the facts and decide for yourself-

BACKGROUND: The company put in charge of counting the Ohio electronic ballots was headed by Michael Connell, Rove and Bush's personal IT guy that they brought into the White House. The failsafe server designated to handle the ballot counting in case of emergency with the servers in Ohio was the main server of this company, and it was in a basement in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

FACT: Kerry was slightly up in polling before the election.

FACT: Exit polling and the actual numbers up until midnight indicated Kerry won. So much so that Tony Blair called to congratulate him, and he surged to 90%+ on Intrade.

FACT: At 12:02 AM reporting for a particular district switched from +2 Kerry to +6 Bush and the votes continued that way for the rest of the night. (Rove attributed this to a late evangelical surge.)

FACT: At about this time, coinciding with the results flip, for no reason at all-- there was absolutely no problem with the servers in Ohio-- the ballot counting switched over to the emergency server in Ohio. Bush won.

FACT: Considering the sketchiness of all of this, an investigation is launched. The Republican Ohio SOS conducts his own recount, declares no error, and destroys the ballots for 55 counties.

FACT: The Ohio SOS is sued (it is still ongoing: King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell) and Bush's IT guy, Connell, provides the prosecution with network map of his Ohio computer system. It is clear from the map that people at his company could have manipulated the votes easily.

FACT: Around this time, June 2008, prosecutors contact the US Attorney General requesting protection for Connell. They say he and his family had been threatened by Karl Rove.

FACT: Six months later, in December 2008, Connell is killed in a personal plane crash, flying from DC to Ohio. No mechanical failure was detected and his cell phone was never found.

Crazy conspiracy theory? Maybe. There's no smoking gun, and with Connell dead, we may never know. And hey, maybe it's a good thing for Democrats the financial crisis didn't occur under a Kerry administration. But it does stink and the fact this is even remotely plausible illustrates the need for strict election oversight.

(11-14-2012 10:28 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-13-2012 11:08 AM)Smaug Wrote:  A couple of tinfoil hat sites and wikipedia do not an actual conspiracy make.

Just look at the facts and decide for yourself-

BACKGROUND: The company put in charge of counting the Ohio electronic ballots was headed by Michael Connell, Rove and Bush's personal IT guy that they brought into the White House. The failsafe server designated to handle the ballot counting in case of emergency with the servers in Ohio was the main server of this company, and it was in a basement in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

FACT: Kerry was slightly up in polling before the election.

FACT: Exit polling and the actual numbers up until midnight indicated Kerry won. So much so that Tony Blair called to congratulate him, and he surged to 90%+ on Intrade.

FACT: At 12:02 AM reporting for a particular district switched from +2 Kerry to +6 Bush and the votes continued that way for the rest of the night. (Rove attributed this to a late evangelical surge.)

FACT: At about this time, coinciding with the results flip, for no reason at all-- there was absolutely no problem with the servers in Ohio-- the ballot counting switched over to the emergency server in Ohio. Bush won.

FACT: Considering the sketchiness of all of this, an investigation is launched. The Republican Ohio SOS conducts his own recount, declares no error, and destroys the ballots for 55 counties.

FACT: The Ohio SOS is sued (it is still ongoing: King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell) and Bush's IT guy, Connell, provides the prosecution with network map of his Ohio computer system. It is clear from the map that people at his company could have manipulated the votes easily.

FACT: Around this time, June 2008, prosecutors contact the US Attorney General requesting protection for Connell. They say he and his family had been threatened by Karl Rove.

FACT: Six months later, in December 2008, Connell is killed in a personal plane crash, flying from DC to Ohio. No mechanical failure was detected and his cell phone was never found.

Crazy conspiracy theory? Maybe. There's no smoking gun, and with Connell dead, we may never know. And hey, maybe it's a good thing for Democrats the financial crisis didn't occur under a Kerry administration. But it does stink and the fact this is even remotely plausible illustrates the need for strict election oversight.

That's hilarious. I never knew the loons were still making this stuff up.

Reminder: Torch believes the Earth is 10,000 years old.

(11-14-2012 10:47 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Reminder: Torch believes the Earth is 10,000 years old.

I've never said that. But it's not about me, Please, post more of your theories!

Here's an elections supervisor admitting they screwed up.

"Out of 94 precincts, the first 40 — most of them in Fort Pierce — weren't counted at all and the last 54 — mostly in Port St. Lucie and the county — were counted twice, which explains why city votes increased and county votes decreased after the Nov. 11 retabulation of the votes from Nov. 1-3."

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/nov/14/s...artner=RSS

How are we supposed to have confidence in our elections with people this incompetent running the BOEs?