(11-09-2012 10:32 AM)Bucster Wrote:  I realize this person is partially being funny but I would like to retort to a couple of them

(11-09-2012 10:14 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.

hmmmmm We also got Duke which I would argue as being just as good or better than Harvard but maybe I am biased because where I live.

(11-09-2012 10:14 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.

I could be wrong but does Opryland even exist anymore? I thought it was shut down a few years ago. I know the OpryLand hotel is still around but if he's talking about the theme park it's gone.

(11-09-2012 10:14 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.

We also got the 2nd largest IBM operation in the world, Glaxo Smith Kline, SAS, Red Hat, CREE. That is just a few.....just look up Research Triangle Park in Durham, NC and you'll find a lot more.

Opryland probably closed 15 years ago.

I'd never heard of the Sultana until this summer. I was in a cemetery in the middle of Tennessee, and noticed a grave stone with "survivor of the Sultana tragedy" so I went home and googled it.

If your antecedents survived that, don't waste your money on lottery tickets. You've already had your unbelievable stroke of luck.

I remember my Dad was bummed out when they closed Twitty City.


HUGE HUGE Conway Twitty fan.

You Blue guys get the majority of the US population.... we get all the farmland so good luck feeding yourselves.

(11-09-2012 12:58 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I'd never heard of the Sultana until this summer. I was in a cemetery in the middle of Tennessee, and noticed a grave stone with "survivor of the Sultana tragedy" so I went home and googled it.

If your antecedents survived that, don't waste your money on lottery tickets. You've already had your unbelievable stroke of luck.

Yup. He just happened to be on the deck and on the opposite side of the boat of the exploding boiler. He got blown into the river and swam to safety

(11-09-2012 12:25 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 12:13 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  These sorts of secession-jokes crop up after every election. I know that in December 2004 there was some talk -- not completely serious but not completely in jest, either -- of reviving the Republic of Vermont. A group of people actually sponsored some sort of discussion-conference in Burlington VT and it got polite coverage in the leftwing media (The Nation, for example)

Politically, secession is (of course) a moot point so I rarely participate in these discussions, but just for the record I will readily admit that I feel no sense of kinship or connection with "Blue States" at all, and if there really were some practical way to split America in half -- the "D+" areas in "their" half and the "R+" areas in "our" half, I would gladly agree to it. I think it would be good for "Blues", good for "Reds" and probably good for the rest of the world, too.

To me, allowing the split of this country would be a betrayal of my relatives who split blood at Shiloh, and suffered through Andersonville, and miraculously survived the Sultana to preserve this Union. I could never support it and would fight any effort to destroy it. Whether it be politically or, as a last resort, with my life.

Violence of the past is not an excuse. I fully understand Lincolns mindset of union preservation regardless of whether I agree with it or not. It was a different time. I can't imagine violent civil war again over this issue.
I lost a bunch of ancestors in the war also. I really have no deep feelings about their deaths other than regret that the war happened in the first place.

HOLY SHNITKE's I just googled Sultana. What a tragedy. Never heard of it.

(11-09-2012 11:13 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Yea the guy that wrote that book is a nut job. I've read some of the stuff he puts out there.. Considering he's never lived in the South, he's sure knowledgeable about the subject. That's like me writing a book about the hard life of those in Boise, Idaho.

You are just in denial. He is spot on.

(11-09-2012 01:16 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  HOLY SHNITKE's I just googled Sultana. What a tragedy. Never heard of it.

yup. A lot of men who just spent years in a living hell(Andersonville) died that night.

(11-09-2012 01:13 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 12:25 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 12:13 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  These sorts of secession-jokes crop up after every election. I know that in December 2004 there was some talk -- not completely serious but not completely in jest, either -- of reviving the Republic of Vermont. A group of people actually sponsored some sort of discussion-conference in Burlington VT and it got polite coverage in the leftwing media (The Nation, for example)

Politically, secession is (of course) a moot point so I rarely participate in these discussions, but just for the record I will readily admit that I feel no sense of kinship or connection with "Blue States" at all, and if there really were some practical way to split America in half -- the "D+" areas in "their" half and the "R+" areas in "our" half, I would gladly agree to it. I think it would be good for "Blues", good for "Reds" and probably good for the rest of the world, too.

To me, allowing the split of this country would be a betrayal of my relatives who split blood at Shiloh, and suffered through Andersonville, and miraculously survived the Sultana to preserve this Union. I could never support it and would fight any effort to destroy it. Whether it be politically or, as a last resort, with my life.

Violence of the past is not an excuse. I fully understand Lincolns mindset of union preservation regardless of whether I agree with it or not. It was a different time. I can't imagine violent civil war again over this issue.
I lost a bunch of ancestors in the war also. I really have no deep feelings about their deaths other than regret that the war happened in the first place.

I understand your point, but I think you misread what would happen. Those states would not go quietly into the night.

I'll tell you southernors sumthin. YOUR FOOTBALL wouldn't be **** without YANKEE coaches. Most specifically OHIO YANKEE coaches. Urban, Les, and Nick, and Holtz all toothed themselves on OHIO FOOTBALL BABY.


Betta recognize!!!!

(11-09-2012 01:28 PM)PlainTiger Wrote:  

No secesion... I see from your map that Hawaii is a blue state... I don't want to give that up...

(11-09-2012 01:32 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I'll tell you southernors sumthin. YOUR FOOTBALL wouldn't be **** without YANKEE coaches. Most specifically OHIO YANKEE coaches. Urban, Les, and Nick, and Holtz all toothed themselves on OHIO FOOTBALL BABY.


Betta recognize!!!!

As opposed to the southerers who have no teeth?

(11-09-2012 01:45 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 01:32 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I'll tell you southernors sumthin. YOUR FOOTBALL wouldn't be **** without YANKEE coaches. Most specifically OHIO YANKEE coaches. Urban, Les, and Nick, and Holtz all toothed themselves on OHIO FOOTBALL BABY.


Betta recognize!!!!

As opposed to the southerers who have no teeth?

Traffic.

Go play in some.

(11-09-2012 01:45 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 01:32 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I'll tell you southernors sumthin. YOUR FOOTBALL wouldn't be **** without YANKEE coaches. Most specifically OHIO YANKEE coaches. Urban, Les, and Nick, and Holtz all toothed themselves on OHIO FOOTBALL BABY.


Betta recognize!!!!

As opposed to the southerers who have no teeth?

Stupid is as stupid does Robert. You've proven yourself stupid and useless on numerous occasions. Now go away, grownups are having a conversation.

(11-09-2012 01:19 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 11:13 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Yea the guy that wrote that book is a nut job. I've read some of the stuff he puts out there.. Considering he's never lived in the South, he's sure knowledgeable about the subject. That's like me writing a book about the hard life of those in Boise, Idaho.

You are just in denial. He is spot on.

You remind me of the lady that I met in NY back in 2006. I had been working around New Orleans and done a pub crawl weeks prior.

She stopped me in the middle of the Staten Island mall and blessed me out for wearing such an insensitive shirt, because everyone knows from CNN that New Orleans was destroyed in a terrible storm.

I talked to her and let her know I was just there and it's not gone. I asked her had she ever been to New Orleans. She had never been any further south than Newark, NJ and rarely left Staten Island.

Robert, you're that woman. If you were to get out and see the country, it's not that bad of a place. Put down the liberal BS books and magazines you read, turn off the TV, and enjoy life.

We get to keep the southern girls. That's cool with me.

I just got this in my email... (kinda weird, since FB, I don't get these things anymore)



DIVORCE AGREEMENT--


WRITTEN BY YOUNG COLLEGE STUDENT


The person who wrote this is a college student. Perhaps there is hope for us after all.

DIVORCE AGREEMENT

THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY WELL PUT AND I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE IT'S BY A YOUNG PERSON, A STUDENT!!! WHATEVER HE RUNS FOR, I'LL VOTE FOR HIM.

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al: We have stuck together since the late 1950's for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.

Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a our separation agreement:

--Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

--We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them.

--You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.
--Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.

--We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and the coal mines, and you can go with wind, solar and biodiesel.

--You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

--We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street.

--You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies and illegal aliens.

--We'll keep the hot Southern Belles, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

--We'll keep Bill O?Reilly, and Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

--You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.

--You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

--We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.

--You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

--We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Volt and Leaf you can find.

--You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors.

--We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.
--We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "The National Anthem."

--I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya" or "We Are the World".

--We'll practice trickle-down economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

--Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you might think about which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J. Wall

Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin & Charlie Sheen, Barbara Streisand, & ( Hanoi ) Jane Fonda with you.

P.S.S. And you won't have to press 1 for English when you call our country.

Can those of us who are Libertarian and disagree with red and blue get one of the smaller states?

I like how whoever typed this is a die hard blue Obama supporter, yet talks about wishing those of us in the South luck with Iran and Afghanistan. His mention of legal weed is also funny with an Obama Presidency.