(10-08-2012 09:05 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that even if Louisville just went ahead and disbanded football upon joining the Big East, we would still have contributed more to the Big East than your primary rooting affiliation over that same period?

Do I have this correct?

Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program. We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy. How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

(10-08-2012 09:04 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:02 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 05:43 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  But as I've said, i'm from NYC, we value loyalty and respect, and there is a sense of pride here you won't find in many other cities. We stand up for our own against all others and once you attack one, you're the enemy of all. This city is fiercely loyal, its in our blood.

Boy you must, like, really, really hate Miami, Boston College, Va Tech, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and WVU! What about the Dodgers? Still hate them? And the SF Giants? What about them. Are your teeth still grinding?

Please don't think about them all at once. Take a deep breath. No need for your head to explode!

Well to be fair, the Giants really sucked when they left.

Wel according this board we really suck too, so it shouldn't be any big deal when we leave

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:05 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that even if Louisville just went ahead and disbanded football upon joining the Big East, we would still have contributed more to the Big East than your primary rooting affiliation over that same period?

Do I have this correct?

Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program. We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy. How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

Try about 2 decades on the basketball success....

And, are you the only one that can use the part in bold above, are we not allowed to use that post Krags?

(10-08-2012 09:29 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:05 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that even if Louisville just went ahead and disbanded football upon joining the Big East, we would still have contributed more to the Big East than your primary rooting affiliation over that same period?

Do I have this correct?

Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program. We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy. How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

Try about 2 decades on the basketball success....

And, are you the only one that can use the part in bold above, are we not allowed to use that post Krags?

You haven't played two decades of big east basketball.

Sure you can, anyone can as long as you back it up with signs of improvement.

(10-08-2012 09:37 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:29 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:05 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that even if Louisville just went ahead and disbanded football upon joining the Big East, we would still have contributed more to the Big East than your primary rooting affiliation over that same period?

Do I have this correct?

Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program. We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy. How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

Try about 2 decades on the basketball success....

And, are you the only one that can use the part in bold above, are we not allowed to use that post Krags?

You haven't played two decades of big east basketball.

Sure you can, anyone can as long as you back it up with signs of improvement.

Was talking about u guys on the 2 decade statement....its probably more like 1.5 decades...

So 2 bowl games first 2 years and 5-0 #16/18 ranking in 3rd year of Strongs tenure does not show signs of improvement?

(10-08-2012 09:37 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:29 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:05 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that even if Louisville just went ahead and disbanded football upon joining the Big East, we would still have contributed more to the Big East than your primary rooting affiliation over that same period?

Do I have this correct?

Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program. We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy. How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

Try about 2 decades on the basketball success....

And, are you the only one that can use the part in bold above, are we not allowed to use that post Krags?

You haven't played two decades of big east basketball.

Sure you can, anyone can as long as you back it up with signs of improvement.

Louisville has been a great program (historically top 10-15), regardless of the conference. In fact, Cincinnati and Louisville built most of their success in so called "lesser" conferences. Things will only get better in the Big East.

(10-08-2012 07:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  In the Sports that you do "care about" very recent history:

1. Football...2011 BIG EAST Co-Champion with UC & WVU...currently undefeated and in the AP & Coaches Poll Top 20 & the highest ranked team from the BIG EAST in both polls.
2. 2011-2012 BIG EAST Tournament Men's Basketball Champion & 2012 Final Four...Co-Favorites with Indiana according to Vegas to win the 2012-2013 Men's Basketball Title.

It is what it is...get over it.

Well thanks for pitching in. Bottom line is that in the sports that matter you guys were of on par with the other league teams. That 7-6 season did nothing for the league in terms of national perception. If you want to look it like that UConn has done more than Louisville, they have a fiesta bowl and a National Tltle plus a final 4 appearance during that time.

So since you guys are such a hot commodity good luck in your new conference, obviously so many of the big 5 are lining to get you guys.

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:05 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that even if Louisville just went ahead and disbanded football upon joining the Big East, we would still have contributed more to the Big East than your primary rooting affiliation over that same period?

Do I have this correct?

Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

I only want the same consideration as everyone else. You, and many others, keep saying STFU because we sucked on the football field the last few years, ignoring the fundamental strength of our athletic department.

Now you are complaining when I shine that same spotlight on your program. So, which is it? Are recent results in the major sports the only important measure of conference contribution or not?

Pick one and stick to it. I'm getting whiplash keeping up with the flip flopping. Or is it possible that you are a flaming hypocrite? Or maybe just too slow to recognize a double standard when you see one?

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program.

Said the fan of the school that doesn't even participate in football.

Can we at least make it a rule that fans of non-football schools keep their traps shut instead of being critical about football playing schools? Thank you.

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

It sucks when your basketball team sucks. It really sucks when your basketball team sucks worse than a Kragthorpe coached Louisville football team. That's like the ultimate suckitude. Condolences.

So, I'm confused. You are defending your teams recent lack of success while attacking ours. Tell me again, is this in or out of bounds?

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy.

Huh. Here I was thinking the whole thing belonged to Providence. I guess I didn't get the memo. Do you have your notarized title available for inspection?

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

You do realize that Va Tech, South Carolina, and Florida State were in that conference right? And you do realize they did NOT want to share any of their football money right? Why would Louisville commit to sharing basketball money in a Metro conference, where none of the football powers were on board to share their football money? Explain that one to me.

Also, it was still viable to be an independent in football. You can look at some of our football schedules from that era, Temple, Pitt, Penn State, WVU, etc. None of those schools were in a conference either. I guess they sucked too? Seriously, none of them could measure up to St. Johns, right?

We were unique in that we made boat loads of money with basketball, so we didn't have to be in a football league. When the age of independents came to a close, we were successful in our first and only attempt at starting a football playing league, as we were a founding member of C-USA. And we then shared our basketball money with our new conference mates, just like a good conference mate does. Houston, SMU, and UCF can thank us next year as they join the nBE.

St. John's obviously existed on a higher plane of reality. The plane then known as TFPC, the Friends of Providence College. May I touch the hem of your robes?

(10-08-2012 09:02 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 05:43 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  But as I've said, i'm from NYC, we value loyalty and respect, and there is a sense of pride here you won't find in many other cities. We stand up for our own against all others and once you attack one, you're the enemy of all. This city is fiercely loyal, its in our blood.

Boy you must, like, really, really hate Miami, Boston College, Va Tech, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and WVU! What about the Dodgers? Still hate them? And the SF Giants? What about them. Are your teeth still grinding?

Please don't think about them all at once. Take a deep breath. No need for your head to explode!

I wasn't around when the Giants and Dodgers played in NY. I could careless about them. The majority of NYers are Yankee fans and the on Giants we care about are the football GIANTS. As for the others, I do, like i'm rooting for the NCAA to give miami the death penalty, boston college is a shell of its former self, and we'll see what happens to the others in a couple of years.

Far as thinking about it, I live in a city where there's so much to do I don't have to think about it. But I guess when louisville and horse racing are all you have I can understand your feelings of grandeur when your team has a successful season.

(10-08-2012 10:03 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  Far as thinking about it, I live in a city where there's so much to do I don't have to think about it. But I guess when louisville and horse racing are all you have I can understand your feelings of grandeur when your team has a successful season.

You think a few UofL fans come off as cocky? Sorry not everyone's cool enough to live in NYC.

(10-08-2012 10:03 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:02 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 05:43 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  But as I've said, i'm from NYC, we value loyalty and respect, and there is a sense of pride here you won't find in many other cities. We stand up for our own against all others and once you attack one, you're the enemy of all. This city is fiercely loyal, its in our blood.

Boy you must, like, really, really hate Miami, Boston College, Va Tech, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and WVU! What about the Dodgers? Still hate them? And the SF Giants? What about them. Are your teeth still grinding?

Please don't think about them all at once. Take a deep breath. No need for your head to explode!

I wasn't around when the Giants and Dodgers played in NY. I could careless about them. The majority of NYers are Yankee fans and the on Giants we care about are the football GIANTS. As for the others, I do, like i'm rooting for the NCAA to give miami the death penalty, boston college is a shell of its former self, and we'll see what happens to the others in a couple of years.

Far as thinking about it, I live in a city where there's so much to do I don't have to think about it. But I guess when louisville and horse racing are all you have I can understand your feelings of grandeur when your team has a successful season.

That's just too rich. You feel personally betrayed by all the former Big East members.

And if there's so much to do in New York, why are you on a Big East message board. My guess is all your friends are now ex-friends because of your creepy, clingy stalkishness.

(10-08-2012 09:44 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:37 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:29 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:05 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that even if Louisville just went ahead and disbanded football upon joining the Big East, we would still have contributed more to the Big East than your primary rooting affiliation over that same period?

Do I have this correct?

Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program. We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy. How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

Try about 2 decades on the basketball success....

And, are you the only one that can use the part in bold above, are we not allowed to use that post Krags?

You haven't played two decades of big east basketball.

Sure you can, anyone can as long as you back it up with signs of improvement.

Was talking about u guys on the 2 decade statement....its probably more like 1.5 decades...

So 2 bowl games first 2 years and 5-0 #16/18 ranking in 3rd year of Strongs tenure does not show signs of improvement?

Yeah, top ten all time wins only came in a decade and a half.

I never said it didn't, but UofL fans talk like they are already a premiere team when you haven't gotten to that level. Yes, you are 5-0 and ranked, but you haven't played a single conference game. You guys should all know better than anyone that conference play matters a whole lot more than non-confernce games. Win a title with a respectable record, get to double digit wins then you can say your back. Until then you're still rebuilding, no matter what sports writers are saying.

(10-08-2012 10:15 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:44 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:37 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:29 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program. We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy. How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

Try about 2 decades on the basketball success....

And, are you the only one that can use the part in bold above, are we not allowed to use that post Krags?

You haven't played two decades of big east basketball.

Sure you can, anyone can as long as you back it up with signs of improvement.

Was talking about u guys on the 2 decade statement....its probably more like 1.5 decades...

So 2 bowl games first 2 years and 5-0 #16/18 ranking in 3rd year of Strongs tenure does not show signs of improvement?

Yeah, top ten all time wins only came in a decade and a half.

I never said it didn't, but UofL fans talk like they are already a premiere team when you haven't gotten to that level. Yes, you are 5-0 and ranked, but you haven't played a single conference game. You guys should all know better than anyone that conference play matters a whole lot more than non-confernce games. Win a title with a respectable record, get to double digit wins then you can say your back. Until then you're still rebuilding, no matter what sports writers are saying.

And I guess I need to truly explain myself, because the first 2 times that seemed clear enough weren't....last 2 decades>1.5 decades of St Johns bball has generally been disappointing...

As for football, I don't think any UL fan thinks were elite level football....I haven't read anyone on this forum that talks like that. Do we want to get to that level HELL YES, but we know we're not there yet. Btw, oldest football program in the country, win a conference championship before throwing stones.

(10-08-2012 10:13 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 10:03 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:02 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 05:43 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  But as I've said, i'm from NYC, we value loyalty and respect, and there is a sense of pride here you won't find in many other cities. We stand up for our own against all others and once you attack one, you're the enemy of all. This city is fiercely loyal, its in our blood.

Boy you must, like, really, really hate Miami, Boston College, Va Tech, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and WVU! What about the Dodgers? Still hate them? And the SF Giants? What about them. Are your teeth still grinding?

Please don't think about them all at once. Take a deep breath. No need for your head to explode!

I wasn't around when the Giants and Dodgers played in NY. I could careless about them. The majority of NYers are Yankee fans and the on Giants we care about are the football GIANTS. As for the others, I do, like i'm rooting for the NCAA to give miami the death penalty, boston college is a shell of its former self, and we'll see what happens to the others in a couple of years.

Far as thinking about it, I live in a city where there's so much to do I don't have to think about it. But I guess when louisville and horse racing are all you have I can understand your feelings of grandeur when your team has a successful season.

That's just too rich. You feel personally betrayed by all the former Big East members.

And if there's so much to do in New York, why are you on a Big East message board. My guess is all your friends are now ex-friends because of your creepy, clingy stalkishness.

Ever heard of an ipad, cellphones, they do have those in Louisville right? Listen, I check in now and then, post a few threads but I by no means spend all my time on here. I have plenty to keep me busy. As for being clingy, I have never been accused of that, actually just the opposite. But as I expect, when you have nothing intelligent, you resort to calling names.
Listen, I call it like I see it. But unlike you, i'm not about to get bitter and start calling people names (on a message board at that), i'm bigger than that. If you don't like the way I perceive your favorite team or your fan base, tough. But to resort to name calling on a message board? Seriously?

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  Ever heard of an ipad, cellphones, they do have those in Louisville right? Listen, I check in now and then, post a few threads but I by no means spend all my time on here. I have plenty to keep me busy

So, I guess NY gets boring frequently enough that this thread is a better entertainment option. That's what I see.

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  As for being clingy, I have never been accused of that, actually just the opposite. But as I expect, when you have nothing intelligent, you resort to calling names.

Well, you get clingy and vindictive toward former conference mates for gosh sakes. It seems a logical conclusion that this behavior would carry over to more important things, like ex-girlfriends for example.

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  Listen, I call it like I see it.

Hey! Me too! We got that going for us!

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  But unlike you, i'm not about to get bitter and start calling people names (on a message board at that),

Who's bitter? The window into your soul that you've provided with your comments here shows more bitterness than I've experienced in my whole life, or at least with respect to college athletics anyway.

Don't worry. The NCAA will probably blast Miami for you. Maybe you'll feel a little less bitter then

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  and start calling people names (on a message board at that)

Who's calling names? I apply logic to observed behavior and make an analysis to reach conclusions.

Just from the info you have provided here we can safely deduce that 1) you are clingy with former conference mates and others considering leaving, 2) that you stalk their fans on the Internet and other news about them, 3) that you wish them injury and duress, and 4) that you are bitter with their lack of total commitment to the Big East.

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  i'm bigger than that.

Yeah, you're such an upstanding individual. You would never take time from your fabulous, bitterness free life in NYC to insult people you've never met, and a city you've never been to.

No. You would never do that!

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  If you don't like the way I perceive your favorite team or your fan base, tough. But to resort to name calling on a message board? Seriously?

Irony. You should check it out sometime.

(10-08-2012 10:00 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 09:05 PM)CardinalZen Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that even if Louisville just went ahead and disbanded football upon joining the Big East, we would still have contributed more to the Big East than your primary rooting affiliation over that same period?

Do I have this correct?

Oh I see, when UofL pulls a "Kragthorpe" they get a pass, but when someone else does they haven't contributed.

I only want the same consideration as everyone else. You, and many others, keep saying STFU because we sucked on the football field the last few years, ignoring the fundamental strength of our athletic department.

Now you are complaining when I shine that same spotlight on your program. So, which is it? Are recent results in the major sports the only important measure of conference contribution or not?

Pick one and stick to it. I'm getting whiplash keeping up with the flip flopping. Or is it possible that you are a flaming hypocrite? Or maybe just too slow to recognize a double standard when you see one?

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  We have done a whole lot for this league while you were still playing in that dirt lot and contemplating actually disbanding your Football program.

Said the fan of the school that doesn't even participate in football.

Can we at least make it a rule that fans of non-football schools keep their traps shut instead of being critical about football playing schools? Thank you.

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  We are one of the all time wins leaders in NCAA history, and while we have had a down decade because of two poor coaching choices it is clear to everyone that we are on our way back. Even with only 6 scholarship players last year we still put a kid in the NBA and he wasn't even the freshman of the year in the league (that kid is coming back to us this season).

It sucks when your basketball team sucks. It really sucks when your basketball team sucks worse than a Kragthorpe coached Louisville football team. That's like the ultimate suckitude. Condolences.

So, I'm confused. You are defending your teams recent lack of success while attacking ours. Tell me again, is this in or out of bounds?

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  All I really have to say is that you are currently in our greatest contribution to the conference. The league itself is our legacy.

Huh. Here I was thinking the whole thing belonged to Providence. I guess I didn't get the memo. Do you have your notarized title available for inspection?

(10-08-2012 09:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  How did it go when you guys tried to start a league? You thought you were better than everyone else and didn't want to share money and the league never got off the ground. Looks like three decades later you guys still have the same arrogance that doomed the Metro Conference.

You do realize that Va Tech, South Carolina, and Florida State were in that conference right? And you do realize they did NOT want to share any of their football money right? Why would Louisville commit to sharing basketball money in a Metro conference, where none of the football powers were on board to share their football money? Explain that one to me.

Also, it was still viable to be an independent in football. You can look at some of our football schedules from that era, Temple, Pitt, Penn State, WVU, etc. None of those schools were in a conference either. I guess they sucked too? Seriously, none of them could measure up to St. Johns, right?

We were unique in that we made boat loads of money with basketball, so we didn't have to be in a football league. When the age of independents came to a close, we were successful in our first and only attempt at starting a football playing league, as we were a founding member of C-USA. And we then shared our basketball money with our new conference mates, just like a good conference mate does. Houston, SMU, and UCF can thank us next year as they join the nBE.

St. John's obviously existed on a higher plane of reality. The plane then known as TFPC, the Friends of Providence College. May I touch the hem of your robes?

hahahahahahahaha You gotta love people who can't win the argument so they have to resort to the "Well your schools doesn't even play football" line.

There is no such thing as a basketball-only school anywhere in the NCAA. The proper term is non-football school (which also requires less typing).

(10-09-2012 12:37 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  hahahahahahahaha You gotta love people who can't win the argument so they have to resort to the "Well your schools doesn't even play football" line.

Wow! You have the ability to ignore everything except one sentence. I would expect nothing less from one exhibiting such symptoms, of which, a maniacal laugh is only a warning sign.

What is the basis whereby a fan of a team with NO football field could ridicule a fan of a team for having a shoddy one? Especially now, when the ridiculing fan's team still has NO football field, while ridiculed fan's team has a very nice football field? It's obviously a willful effort to look past reality to see a constructed fantasy.

It was out of a concern for the mental health of such complaining fans that I suggested that we disallow such complaining. It only encourages the construction of these elaborate mental fantasy worlds. Such as those in which the complaining fans teams are awesome in sports they don't play and even own the conferences in which they participate. Both are sure signs of delusion.

This is a very dangerous situation. Please consult a mental health professional before responding.

(10-09-2012 12:23 AM)CardinalZen Wrote:  

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  Ever heard of an ipad, cellphones, they do have those in Louisville right? Listen, I check in now and then, post a few threads but I by no means spend all my time on here. I have plenty to keep me busy

So, I guess NY gets boring frequently enough that this thread is a better entertainment option. That's what I see.

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  As for being clingy, I have never been accused of that, actually just the opposite. But as I expect, when you have nothing intelligent, you resort to calling names.

Well, you get clingy and vindictive toward former conference mates for gosh sakes. It seems a logical conclusion that this behavior would carry over to more important things, like ex-girlfriends for example.

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  Listen, I call it like I see it.

Hey! Me too! We got that going for us!

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  But unlike you, i'm not about to get bitter and start calling people names (on a message board at that),

Who's bitter? The window into your soul that you've provided with your comments here shows more bitterness than I've experienced in my whole life, or at least with respect to college athletics anyway.

Don't worry. The NCAA will probably blast Miami for you. Maybe you'll feel a little less bitter then

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  and start calling people names (on a message board at that)

Who's calling names? I apply logic to observed behavior and make an analysis to reach conclusions.

Just from the info you have provided here we can safely deduce that 1) you are clingy with former conference mates and others considering leaving, 2) that you stalk their fans on the Internet and other news about them, 3) that you wish them injury and duress, and 4) that you are bitter with their lack of total commitment to the Big East.

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  i'm bigger than that.

Yeah, you're such an upstanding individual. You would never take time from your fabulous, bitterness free life in NYC to insult people you've never met, and a city you've never been to.

No. You would never do that!

(10-08-2012 11:41 PM)fusion1906 Wrote:  If you don't like the way I perceive your favorite team or your fan base, tough. But to resort to name calling on a message board? Seriously?

Irony. You should check it out sometime.

How is it ironic, I never once called you a name or made personal attacks. Its not that serious. Listen, if you don't like my opinion ignore or say "fu-- you" I would respect that more than you making personal attacks with this childish name calling. You don't have to like my opinion, and I don't care that much about your because I don't know you. Just like I don't care about your personal opinion of me.

This thread is a GREAT example of what this board has turned into.

Wish more mods would delete/move all of the attack/falme posts that have NOTHING to with the topic and move them to smack board like they use to...as this was a very good topic...which, as with soooo many threads...turned into one giant b-tch session.