(09-10-2012 01:19 AM)Green Bull Wrote:  Once we try to comfort pedophiles with their desires, how long before we feel guilty about forbidding them from fulfilling them?

This is the main point. The author goes out his way to put a "human" face on Terry and other pedophiles. How tough it is for them to find a place to live, how hard it is for them in jail etc. He tries to seem "enlightened" with his comment of how he just wishes he would be fine with Terry next door and around his kids. This is a unique trait among modern progressives and liberals in their never ending effort to seem tolerant and non-judgmental.

Quote:I don't want to compare consensual homosexuality between adults to pedophilia.

Nor do I, though that's what's going on in the article. They want to classify pedophilia as a sexual orientation like homosexuality and heterosexuality. It just can't be helped. Once you embrace the idea that it just can't be helped, it's who they are, you open the door towards the increasing of society's tolerance of such things.

Quote:In the context of today, there are certainly enough people-including from the left alone-who know the difference, and understand the importance of protecting children. But, it is true those who get to and want to change society's values are probably working on making pedophilia closer to acceptance. Hypothetically, one would then just emphasize children officially "consenting." In political discussions, framing issues is very important and influential in changing public opinion.

Agree. That's the danger here. Our society is increasingly becoming more morally relativistic. Such a point of view erodes the sense of right and wrong little by little.

I can honestly see the radical left wing militant gays attempting to move the age of consent down to 13 or so. And when that doesn't work they'll move to parental consent as a "compromise".

Disclaimer : I realize there are "straight" pedo's out there too but they don't have a movement to latch on to.

BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.

(09-10-2012 01:47 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2012 06:22 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(09-08-2012 11:33 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  There is nothing new about this. Pedophiles were a part of the Gay rights movement in the before the mid 80's. When the LGBTAQLOMNA movement ditched the pedo's they found it easier to get traction.

God you are ******* stupid. You must be a ******* republican because lying comes naturally to you.

I was a decade off... It was the mid 70's when gay rights groups signed onto a petition to *remove any age limits* on consensual sex between a minor and an adult...

Calling something a lie does not back it up..

1) Prove it.
2) Show that this was mainstream gay thinking then and NOW


I don't know a single gay man or women that feels the way you intolerant right wing ******** claim we do.

Another fantasy of yours so you can justify in your own pathetic little head your irrational hatred of a gays.

Seems to me that the vast majority of hatred comes from gays.

BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.

Gay rage

(09-10-2012 09:20 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 01:47 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2012 06:22 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(09-08-2012 11:33 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  There is nothing new about this. Pedophiles were a part of the Gay rights movement in the before the mid 80's. When the LGBTAQLOMNA movement ditched the pedo's they found it easier to get traction.

God you are ******* stupid. You must be a ******* republican because lying comes naturally to you.

I was a decade off... It was the mid 70's when gay rights groups signed onto a petition to *remove any age limits* on consensual sex between a minor and an adult...

Calling something a lie does not back it up..

1) Prove it.
2) Show that this was mainstream gay thinking then and NOW


I don't know a single gay man or women that feels the way you intolerant right wing ******** claim we do.

Another fantasy of yours so you can justify in your own pathetic little head your irrational hatred of a gays.

Are you really so obtuse as to

1) Dismiss the quote I posted about Canadian Gay Rights groups signing onto the charters

and

2) Dismiss that I said this was a historical behavior bot a current one?

Because if you're that obtuse there is no point in trying to prove anything to you. You'll just go in willfully ignoring any inconvenient fact you happen across.

(09-10-2012 09:20 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  God you are ******* stupid. You must be a ******* republican because lying comes naturally to you.

(09-10-2012 09:43 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Seems to me that the vast majority of hatred comes from gays.

(09-10-2012 09:50 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Gay rage

like the new york tabloids said after the stonewall riots:
QUEEN BEES STINGING MAD!!




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sumofallfears, what is the deal with you and muslims
i've known lots of them and they're good people
theyre not militants
almost pacifist if anything

and the oppenheimer quotes what's that got to do with anything

(09-10-2012 12:06 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 09:20 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  God you are ******* stupid. You must be a ******* republican because lying comes naturally to you.

(09-10-2012 09:43 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Seems to me that the vast majority of hatred comes from gays.

(09-10-2012 09:50 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Gay rage

like the new york tabloids said after the stonewall riots:
QUEEN BEES STINGING MAD!!




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sumofallfears, what is the deal with you and muslims
i've known lots of them and they're good people
theyre not militants
almost pacifist if anything

and the oppenheimer quotes what's that got to do with anything

SOAF is a moron. He hates "brown" people, thinks Obama is a secret Muslim and that Muslims are trying to implement Sharia Law in this country.

(09-10-2012 12:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 12:06 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 09:20 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  God you are ******* stupid. You must be a ******* republican because lying comes naturally to you.

(09-10-2012 09:43 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Seems to me that the vast majority of hatred comes from gays.

(09-10-2012 09:50 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Gay rage

like the new york tabloids said after the stonewall riots:
QUEEN BEES STINGING MAD!!




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sumofallfears, what is the deal with you and muslims
i've known lots of them and they're good people
theyre not militants
almost pacifist if anything

and the oppenheimer quotes what's that got to do with anything

SOAF is a moron. He hates "brown" people, thinks Obama is a secret Muslim and that Muslims are trying to implement Sharia Law in this country.

(09-10-2012 09:20 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  I don't know a single gay man or women that feels the way you intolerant right wing ******** claim we do.

QED.

(09-10-2012 12:06 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 09:20 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  God you are ******* stupid. You must be a ******* republican because lying comes naturally to you.

(09-10-2012 09:43 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Seems to me that the vast majority of hatred comes from gays.

(09-10-2012 09:50 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Gay rage

like the new york tabloids said after the stonewall riots:
QUEEN BEES STINGING MAD!!




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sumofallfears, what is the deal with you and muslims
i've known lots of them and they're good people
theyre not militants
almost pacifist if anything

and the oppenheimer quotes what's that got to do with anything

"The Note" by Randy Scott one story of many

Ninerfan1 Wrote:Embassies burning, economy in the tank, Iran pursuing nukes...and [this] is somehow breaking news?

(09-14-2012 03:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Ninerfan1 Wrote:Embassies burning, economy in the tank, Iran pursuing nukes...and [this] is somehow breaking news?

You are rapidly approaching Robert status.

(09-14-2012 03:46 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(09-14-2012 03:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Ninerfan1 Wrote:Embassies burning, economy in the tank, Iran pursuing nukes...and [this] is somehow breaking news?

You are rapidly approaching Robert status.

Passed it a long time ago. He is RedwingRobert now.

Yeah. You post a thread with the disgusting insinuation that progressives want to somehow coddle pedophiles and I'm the low one? I'll take any derogatory nickname over that any day of the week over you sick ****.

(09-14-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah. You post a thread with the disgusting insinuation that progressives want to somehow coddle pedophiles and I'm the low one? I'll take any derogatory nickname over that any day of the week over you sick ****.

Whatever gets you through the night RedwingRobert.

(09-14-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah. You post a thread with the disgusting insinuation that progressives want to somehow coddle pedophiles and I'm the low one? I'll take any derogatory nickname over that any day of the week over you sick ****.

Niner just posted a title that was accurate. A progressive wrote the article and its fair to assume a progressive published it....ergo...progressives begin new crusade....

(09-14-2012 04:57 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(09-14-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah. You post a thread with the disgusting insinuation that progressives want to somehow coddle pedophiles and I'm the low one? I'll take any derogatory nickname over that any day of the week over you sick ****.

Niner just posted a title that was accurate. A progressive wrote the article and its fair to assume a progressive published it....ergo...progressives begin new crusade....

Where is your tag that I am now dumber for reading your post? Lord!

(09-14-2012 05:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2012 04:57 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(09-14-2012 03:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah. You post a thread with the disgusting insinuation that progressives want to somehow coddle pedophiles and I'm the low one? I'll take any derogatory nickname over that any day of the week over you sick ****.

Niner just posted a title that was accurate. A progressive wrote the article and its fair to assume a progressive published it....ergo...progressives begin new crusade....

Where is your tag that I am now dumber for reading your post? Lord!

Oh, you're talking about my signature when I use Tapatalk. I love it because its always there and you must see it. Thanks for reading it and because you read it you acknowledge what it says. It says so.

The bottom line is that nonconsensual sex is wrong regardless of the parties involved. A child is not capable of making a consensual decision, and this is codified by state laws that vary by age. (Not that age magically makes you make good decisions).

So you can dream about doing it with the guy/gal/girl/boy or whatever, but if you do it and it is not legally consensual then you should be prosecuted. However if you are wired that you want that person even if they do not consent, and are afraid you need help to prevent you from acting out your desires – then you should be able to get that help without judgment.

Back in time I do not think they had the concept of a “legal age of consent”. I assume that it was common to have sex with what we call a “girl” today to have a baby. It is our modern standards that are different.