The elected MB leader just fired two of the top generals leading the military. With no Constitution written, and therefore no guidelines, he can simply do what he wants. I had hoped that the military would somehow be able to be a moderating force on the MB but it looks like that is out the door.

What's your take on all this?

(08-13-2012 07:05 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  The elected MB leader just fired two of the top generals leading the military. With no Constitution written, and therefore no guidelines, he can simply do what he wants. I had hoped that the military would somehow be able to be a moderating force on the MB but it looks like that is out the door.

What's your take on all this?

It's going to get massively ugly, and soon... The only thing Israel has going for it is the fact Syria is in the middle of a rebellion..

I don't know if the Egyptian military can run a Coup.

The MB decapitated the Egyptian Military General leadership.

But remember Nasser was a Colonel... Maybe there's something in the back channels still in play.

The Egyptians better pray for a Coup, because if MB-led Egypt re-nigs on their Treaty Commitments, it isn't going to be pretty. The Israelis don't screw around.

Guys, today's development is a bit unsettling (if not unexpected - I always felt that the military's position was untenable in all of this), but.....Egypt is still pretty divided right now. Its obvious that Morsi won the election. We really don't have much choice but to let him rule. My guess is that he'll be better than Maliki in Iraq.

We could have only made things worse had we gotten involved by supporting Mubarak. Or the military's ridiculous attempt to hold onto power through proxies.

I think that the real issue is that the secularists run Egypt's economy. And the military is still there and pretty secular as well. If Morsi tries to go hardcore, the economy will collapse. Egypt doesn't have the luxury of having massive oil resources (on a per capita basis) so that it can piss off the world.

The military hates the Gaza militants. They're still fighting them in the Sinai. For me, an uh-oh moment would be if they open the Rafah checkpoint from Gaza.

And Morsi now needs the Egyptian military to keep the wheels on. Egypt is inherently unstable. There are wide differences within the Muslim Brotherhood. The military is secular. Ten percent of the country is Christian (and heavily concentrated in urban areas - where they can cause maximum discomfort to the regime).

Morsi's number one priority right now isn't to cause problems for Israel or to enact Sharia, but to get the economy up on its' feet again. US aid is massive to Egypt. Russia can't afford to replace that aid.

Sorry...Wake me when it is over.

The Egyptian Economy will be irrelevant if Hamas thinks they have the Green Light to start their rocket-launching garbage.

If the Egyptians dont secure the western border of Gaza, look out.

(08-13-2012 10:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Guys, today's development is a bit unsettling (if not unexpected - I always felt that the military's position was untenable in all of this), but.....Egypt is still pretty divided right now. Its obvious that Morsi won the election. We really don't have much choice but to let him rule. My guess is that he'll be better than Maliki in Iraq.

We could have only made things worse had we gotten involved by supporting Mubarak. Or the military's ridiculous attempt to hold onto power through proxies.

I think that the real issue is that the secularists run Egypt's economy. And the military is still there and pretty secular as well. If Morsi tries to go hardcore, the economy will collapse. Egypt doesn't have the luxury of having massive oil resources (on a per capita basis) so that it can piss off the world.

The military hates the Gaza militants. They're still fighting them in the Sinai. For me, an uh-oh moment would be if they open the Rafah checkpoint from Gaza.

And Morsi now needs the Egyptian military to keep the wheels on. Egypt is inherently unstable. There are wide differences within the Muslim Brotherhood. The military is secular. Ten percent of the country is Christian (and heavily concentrated in urban areas - where they can cause maximum discomfort to the regime).

Morsi's number one priority right now isn't to cause problems for Israel or to enact Sharia, but to get the economy up on its' feet again. US aid is massive to Egypt. Russia can't afford to replace that aid.

If someone in the Egyptian Military has the capacity to stage a Coup, and it has a high probability of success.. I see the US supporting it.

It might buy the Israelis some time on Iran.

"See guys, we secured your West Flank. Egypt and the MB are no threat.. give the US 4 months (after Obama is defeated) before you attack Iran.

(08-13-2012 10:30 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(08-13-2012 10:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Guys, today's development is a bit unsettling (if not unexpected - I always felt that the military's position was untenable in all of this), but.....Egypt is still pretty divided right now. Its obvious that Morsi won the election. We really don't have much choice but to let him rule. My guess is that he'll be better than Maliki in Iraq.

We could have only made things worse had we gotten involved by supporting Mubarak. Or the military's ridiculous attempt to hold onto power through proxies.

I think that the real issue is that the secularists run Egypt's economy. And the military is still there and pretty secular as well. If Morsi tries to go hardcore, the economy will collapse. Egypt doesn't have the luxury of having massive oil resources (on a per capita basis) so that it can piss off the world.

The military hates the Gaza militants. They're still fighting them in the Sinai. For me, an uh-oh moment would be if they open the Rafah checkpoint from Gaza.

And Morsi now needs the Egyptian military to keep the wheels on. Egypt is inherently unstable. There are wide differences within the Muslim Brotherhood. The military is secular. Ten percent of the country is Christian (and heavily concentrated in urban areas - where they can cause maximum discomfort to the regime).

Morsi's number one priority right now isn't to cause problems for Israel or to enact Sharia, but to get the economy up on its' feet again. US aid is massive to Egypt. Russia can't afford to replace that aid.

If someone in the Egyptian Military has the capacity to stage a Coup, and it has a high probability of success.. I see the US supporting it.

It might buy the Israelis some time on Iran.

"See guys, we secured your West Flank. Egypt and the MB are no threat.. give the US 4 months (after Obama is defeated) before you attack Iran.

Yep...Just another damn mess to get dragged into. I hope like hell we stay the F out of this.