Brian (Brain DEAD) Ross, tried his best to link the shooting to the Tea Party. Later being forced to offer a half @$$ed apology retracking the statement when it is PROVEN the shooter is not a Tea Party member. WHY, rush to judgement on a mainstream political movement?

The media are like our POTUS. Take away a script and they are an empty suit.

Brian Ross apparently got the name "James Holmes" from the police and found a James Holmes on the internet (Facebook?) who was in his 50's, lived in the Denver area, and was a Tea Party member.

Ross and George Stefanopolus (sp?) ran with this info, linking the Tea Party to the killings. Of course, it turns out there are 30+ James Holmes in the Denver metro area, and Ross had focused on the wrong one. Oops. Just like the shootings in Tucson.

And they say there's no liberal bias ....

Can you imagine what would of happened if the shooter was Muslim?

(07-20-2012 07:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Can you imagine what would of happened if the shooter was Muslim?

The OBAMA administration would sweep it under the rug. Look what has happened with the Fort Hood shooter. NOTHING!!!! The executed Timothy McVeigh in less than two years after the OKC bombing

On GMAIL they tried to claim that it had to be some "super patriot." Laughed at them and thought, no it is probably someone who is mentally ill.

Brian Ross arrested as result of police investigation into the death of Chris Davis. He was charged with four others for assaulting and robbing him.

Brian Ross arrested in murder case


Brian Ross asked little girls for photos and sex, police say. After sending explicit photos and text messages to two girls, Ross has landed in jail on suspicion of sex-related charges.

Ross, sick perv

(07-20-2012 08:18 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-20-2012 07:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Can you imagine what would of happened if the shooter was Muslim?

The OBAMA administration would sweep it under the rug. Look what has happened with the Fort Hood shooter. NOTHING!!!! The executed Timothy McVeigh in less than two years after the OKC bombing

Six years, but it's hard to compare federal (and state) proceedings to military courts. The speed to which McVeigh was prosecuted likely has more to do with him and his lawyer than it has to do with prosecutors. I think Hasan's lawyers have repeatedly asked for delays.

All these accusations and no links?

Are you guys just making this up?

Goggle. Isn't hard.

Brian Ross, hack "journalist"

(07-21-2012 01:01 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  All these accusations and no links?

Are you guys just making this up?

Brian Ross the dimwit

So in addition to this, we had the Jared Loughner folly, doctored tapes of Zimmerman's 911 call, the NYC mayor theorizing that the Times Sqare Bomber was "probably someone upset with the health care bill or something" before we found out the suspect, and so on. Those were just the big events.

Two things:

First... the past four years have been littered with attempts to paint the Tea Party as "violent and crazy," and still there's nary a scratch of evidence beyond an alleged spitting incident in DC. And to their credit, the meme worked to an extent. If you're fed it enough times, it becomes part of the fabric. I certainly wouldn't call myself a Tea Party supporter even though I may agree with some of their fiscal platforms (too rigidly neocon-ish for me). But I have yet to see the rampant racism, violence and hooliganism the movement supposedly demonstrates. Even in the aftermath of the leftist OWS rallies that showcase some real criminal activity and property damage, it still all goes back to the Tea Party.

Secondly... I don't argue with anyone who says Fox News has a conservative bias and will 'slant' its coverage. Because it's true. But can they drop the false pretense that the rest of the MSM slate are purely "just the facts, ma'am" sources and don't harbor their own (liberal) biases? They may be more subtle in their approaches, which may actually be more insidious than wearing it on their sleeves, but all the "Faux News is Evil!" protests start ringing hollow.

As Owl 69 has often correctly stated, you simply need to expose yourself to a variety of different outlets if you want the full, complete picture. You'll only get one set of reporting, often mixed with one editorial slant, if you rely solely on your favorite media channel.

True dat:

Quote:Beyond his age, name, and ethnicity, nobody yet knows who the shooter is, or why he chose to do what he did. In my view, this is a blessing, albeit a temporary one; for, as has been the way in recent years, once his party registration, television-viewing habits, and random scribblings become known to the public, all sorts of hysterical speculation and unlettered accusations will burst forth.

Whole groups will be vilified, blame will be apportioned to those many times removed, and the shooter will be partially absolved of blame by those who prefer to see fault in video games or talk radio or political rhetoric or anything else that can be conscripted to explain why terrible things happen to good people. Few will point out that unless someone commits an atrocity in the name of an ideology — Timothy McVeigh, for example — their political beliefs are wholly irrelevant. Even in cases where a killer is motivated by something specific, to draw general conclusions is most often folly. America is not the land of collective guilt, and mass shootings should carve out no exception. Those few people who have already jumped on the crime to hit out at their boogeyman of choice are fools.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/310...-c-w-cooke

(07-20-2012 08:27 PM)jmufan Wrote:  On GMAIL they tried to claim that it had to be some "super patriot." Laughed at them and thought, no it is probably someone who is mentally ill.

Aren't they one in the same?

There are unconfirmed rumors that the shooter was actually part of the Black Bloc (anarchist group) that was notorious for trying to start trouble at Occupy rallies.

I get amused at all the attempts to tie violence to the Conservative/Tea Party part of the country.

If those people ever decide to start shooting, everyone will know who is shooting and why. There won't be any investigative reporting required.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...d-Democrat

And Breitbart.com was quick to point out that they thought Holmes was a registered Democrat. Now they're not so sure. The bottom line is media is both lazy and eager for a scoop, so they take shortcuts and liberties with the truth. Common name - big city - leads to a lot of false alarms.

Get it quick has trumped get it right, and journalism (and discourse in general) suffers because of it.

To think, just 70 years ago, people found out about Pearl Harbor when they opened the newspaper on Monday, December 8th. And those were the people who actually got the paper.

(07-21-2012 10:17 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-20-2012 08:27 PM)jmufan Wrote:  On GMAIL they tried to claim that it had to be some "super patriot." Laughed at them and thought, no it is probably someone who is mentally ill.

Aren't they one in the same?

So you're saying that you have to hate this country to be considered sane?

(07-21-2012 08:41 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  So in addition to this, we had the Jared Loughner folly, doctored tapes of Zimmerman's 911 call, the NYC mayor theorizing that the Times Sqare Bomber was "probably someone upset with the health care bill or something" before we found out the suspect, and so on. Those were just the big events.

Two things:

First... the past four years have been littered with attempts to paint the Tea Party as "violent and crazy," and still there's nary a scratch of evidence beyond an alleged spitting incident in DC. And to their credit, the meme worked to an extent. If you're fed it enough times, it becomes part of the fabric. I certainly wouldn't call myself a Tea Party supporter even though I may agree with some of their fiscal platforms (too rigidly neocon-ish for me). But I have yet to see the rampant racism, violence and hooliganism the movement supposedly demonstrates. Even in the aftermath of the leftist OWS rallies that showcase some real criminal activity and property damage, it still all goes back to the Tea Party.

Secondly... I don't argue with anyone who says Fox News has a conservative bias and will 'slant' its coverage. Because it's true. But can they drop the false pretense that the rest of the MSM slate are purely "just the facts, ma'am" sources and don't harbor their own (liberal) biases? They may be more subtle in their approaches, which may actually be more insidious than wearing it on their sleeves, but all the "Faux News is Evil!" protests start ringing hollow.

As Owl 69 has often correctly stated, you simply need to expose yourself to a variety of different outlets if you want the full, complete picture. You'll only get one set of reporting, often mixed with one editorial slant, if you rely solely on your favorite media channel.

A study by the UCLA journalism school said Fox was the most accurate network in reporting the news. They concluded that Fox was slightly to the right, but the others (CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC) were far to the left. No network was right down the middle.