Oh STFU. I'm outnumbered 20-1 here. I don't have to start threads pointing out these things from any liberals or dems. You guys do enough of that for 10 message boards.

But I will agree that D's close ranks but if you think R's don't in many cases your a bald faced liar!

And don't the R's control the ethics committees? And I seem to remember that Charlie Rangel got no favors from anybody.

And what is this a distraction from? Please tell us what we are allowed to discuss around here then?

(07-19-2012 03:49 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Point me to the words that show me defending her. I'm not.

Just pointing out that those throwing stones are hardly in a position to do so and the absurd lengths some of you water carriers are going to in order to avoid the discussion that needs to be had regarding the economy. Got to cover for the disaster that is progressivism and dear leader.

This is a silly distraction. Of course the GOP is "reprimanding" her. Unlike dems, when one says something really stupid, they usually apologize or get run out of town on a rail, having to resign. Doesn't seem to happen much on the D side, though. They close ranks. Defend each other.

I'm still waiting for any action from the ethics committee in the House on Maxine Waters and her self dealing. I figure that it should happen sometime in 2030 or so, perhaps after she dies.

But, whatever. Enjoy your big win over a pol who is not a big fish and who got trounced in her campaign. You'll have more credibility when you point out the same things happening from your side of the aisle. Just another "gotcha" distraction from the side with no plan except spend, spend, spend and demagogue, demagogue, demagogue.

Democrats don't apologize?? That's rich. I thought you hated them because they apologize too much! What about Obama's "apology tour?"

Of course Democrats apologize. The surrogate who said Ann Romney never worked a day in her life apologized. Senator Franken apologized to McConnell for mocking him that one time (and I wish he hadn't). There are countless examples.

When you have Allen West literally saying 80 members of the progressive caucus are communists, and Bachmann sending letters to agencies demanding explanations for Muslims she believes to be the subverting our government for the Muslim Brotherhood (and this includes an aide to Hillary Clinton, who voted for the Iraq War-- a very non-Muslim Brotherhood thing to do), yes I'll invoke McCarthy. It's ridiculous.

(07-19-2012 03:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And I seem to remember that Charlie Rangel got no favors from anybody.

He's not behind bars, is he?

Um, tax evasion and extortion?

Quote:Rangel was convicted in an ethics trial this week by a panel of lawmakers on 11 counts of ethical wrongdoing, including his use of House letterheads and staff to solicit money for a college center named after him. A number of the donors had business before the House Ways and Means Committee while Rangel served as chairman.

Rangel also filed a decade's worth of misleading financial statements understating his assets and converted a subsidized New York apartment – designated for residential use – into a campaign office. Other tenants who violated their lease got evicted.

The tax issue was a sore point for several members of the ethics committee, who said it was especially egregious that a former chairman of the House's tax-writing committee failed for 17 years to pay taxes on the income from his island villa.

It's unclear how much Rangel owes in taxes. An ethics committee document indicated he owed $16,775 as of 1990, but Rangel has paid some of his back taxes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/19...85879.html

I'm aware of the legislature's limitations to inprison a criminal. That's what we have a Justice Department for.

Wait. Who am I kidding? Dennis Holder go after sweet old Uncle Charlie?

EDIT: Hmmm...seems someone had a case of posters' remorse.

(07-19-2012 04:04 PM)Max Power Wrote:  Democrats don't apologize?? That's rich. I thought you hated them because they apologize too much! What about Obama's "apology tour?"

Oh they will apologize on behalf of this evil nation to foreigners they just are not fast to apologize or reprimand among their ranks for personal actions

Quote:Of course Democrats apologize. The surrogate who said Ann Romney never worked a day in her life apologized.

She apologized for the offense, not for the stupid @55 comment.

So I guess it doesn't matter that her family does have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood?

(07-19-2012 10:20 PM)maximus Wrote:  So I guess it doesn't matter that her family does have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood?

About as much as if you've got a third cousin twice removed who was a grand wizard in the KKK or a great great grandfather who owned slaves.

(07-19-2012 10:09 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Jack Abramoff told me my coffee was the best he'd ever tasted!

And by coffee, you mean man juice?

(07-20-2012 08:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:20 PM)maximus Wrote:  So I guess it doesn't matter that her family does have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood?

About as much as if you've got a third cousin twice removed who was a grand wizard in the KKK or a great great grandfather who owned slaves.

is her MOM in a group with direct ties to the MB or not?

we arent talking third cousing twice removed

(07-20-2012 08:19 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-20-2012 08:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:20 PM)maximus Wrote:  So I guess it doesn't matter that her family does have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood?

About as much as if you've got a third cousin twice removed who was a grand wizard in the KKK or a great great grandfather who owned slaves.

is her MOM in a group with direct ties to the MB or not?

we arent talking third cousing twice removed

Ummmm...dipshit...do you have any evidence that the daughter has any direct ties? Or should we just throw out the constitution for ya?

(07-20-2012 08:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-20-2012 08:19 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-20-2012 08:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:20 PM)maximus Wrote:  So I guess it doesn't matter that her family does have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood?

About as much as if you've got a third cousin twice removed who was a grand wizard in the KKK or a great great grandfather who owned slaves.

is her MOM in a group with direct ties to the MB or not?

we arent talking third cousing twice removed

Ummmm...*******...do you have any evidence that the daughter has any direct ties? Or should we just throw out the constitution for ya?

i think her brother has ties as well.


and i think Hillary spoke at some school her mother started or is involved with.

LOL so her mother has ties to a group which has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood? Man that's airtight, and totally overcomes the fact she's married to a prominent pro-Israeli Jew and worked for a senator who voted for the Iraq war.

My dad's a Republican. Does that make me a Republican?

Did Michelle Bachmann accept campaign contributions from Al Qaeda lender HSBC or not? ANSWER THE QUESTION!

(07-20-2012 09:50 AM)Max Power Wrote:  LOL so her mother has ties to a group which has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood? Man that's airtight, and totally overcomes the fact she's married to a prominent pro-Israeli Jew and worked for a senator who voted for the Iraq war.

My dad's a Republican. Does that make me a Republican?

Did Michelle Bachmann accept campaign contributions from Al Qaeda lender HSBC or not? ANSWER THE QUESTION!

Didn't read the thread, and won't... But if I'm reading this correctly, it's hilarious


I doubt if the terrorist arm of al qaeda has loans. They do purport to have legitamate business enterprises, specifically media... And HSBC is a global bank and investment bank who loans money to all SORTS of businesses. I suspect they've also made loans to the nRA and abortion doctors and churches and mosques, and also donated to democrats

You give someone a hard time about a loose relationship, and then demand an answer about an (at least) equally loose one?

That was tongue in cheek. But at least it's only two degrees of separation.

If tongue in cheek, then good. Still though.. Are you accusing HSBC of supporting terrorism? If so, you'd better notify the FBI. That IS a federal offense. In other words, your example is at least 2 degrees of separation as well

If you were just giving someone crap, then my apologies

Some food for thought.

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/jamie-glazo...-abedin-2/

Quote:Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist and Muslim Brotherhood activist who is the author of the new book For God or For Tyranny.

Quote:FP: You were the first to break the news on Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner’s wife, being linked to her mother Saleha Abedin, who, as you have exposed, has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

First, let me ask you: how credible are your sources?

Shoebat: Al-Liwa Al-Arabi (translated here) leaked an extensive list, which was partially published by Al-Jazeera and several other major Arab newspapers. The detailed list included Huma’s mother, Saleha Abedin.

Another piece of the puzzle and what was common knowledge in the Arab world is that Huma Abedin has a brother named Hassan Abedin who sits in on the board of the Oxford Centre For Islamic Studies (OCIS) where Huma’s brother is a fellow and partners with a number of Muslim Brotherhood members on the Board, including Al-Qaeda associate, Omar Naseef and the notorious Muslim Brotherhood leader Sheikh Youssef Qaradawi; both have been listed as OCIS Trustees. Naseef continues to serve as Board Chairman.

This becomes an issue since Huma sits in the U.S. State Department with eyes and ears to classified government secrets. Was Huma unaware of all this as she accompanied Hillary Clinton to the Dar El-Hekma women’s college in Jedda-Saudi Arabia? Huma’s mother is the co-founder and a Vice Dean at the college and an active missionary on issues regarding Muslim women and is considered by the Egyptian security services as a dangerous member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Quote:FP: What do you say in response to those who would say that bringing Huma Abedin into all of this is an unfair and unwarranted “guilt-by-association” tactic?

Shoebat: When westerners say “guilt-by-association” regarding Huma, they are comparing the Middle East with the Middle West. Westerners need to shift gears into the Muslim World and when they do they will begin to comprehend the significance of this connection.

Huma’s links to a family that is directly tied to the Muslim Brotherhood, including her brother and mother, creates a question that no one on earth can easily answer:

Other than Huma Abedin, has there ever been any member of the Muslim Brotherhood or a prominent Islamist who will not openly denounce a “daughter” or “sister” that married a non-Muslim Jewish male?

It is extremely rare to have Muslim women marry non-Muslims, much less to have conservative Muslims look the other way, unless Huma has a “higher calling” and a unique exception was made for her, since she is an ear into top U.S. sensitive information, or Anthony Weiner has converted to Islam or even both.

Quote:FP: H-mm. Ok, well then why is the U.S. State Department not taking this issue seriously?

Shoebat: The U.S. current policy is to gain what they deem a “moderate Muslim Brotherhood.”

This is like saying that in order to win the Cold War with Russia, that we needed to promote “Capitalistic-Communism” or during WWII we should have promoted “pro-Jew Nazism” in Germany.

To take our Nazi example during World War II and compare this to today’s attitude, this policy is as if we decided to engage the Nazis through an inclusion policy in order to moderate them.

(07-20-2012 11:21 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

Quote:FP: You were the first to break the news on Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner’s wife, being linked to her mother Saleha Abedin, who, as you have exposed, has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Forgive me...I stopped reading here as I fell on the floor laughing my ass off!

Doesn't surprise me one bit. If you don't want to take the word of a former terrorist, whose word would you accept?

It doesn't matter anyway, Obama and his state dept are letting members of terrorist groups into the country so he can meet with them at the White House.

(07-20-2012 01:17 PM)maximus Wrote:  It doesn't matter anyway, Obama and his state dept are letting members of terrorist groups into the country so he can meet with them at the White House.

Oh...are they the ones telling him which civilians to kill by drone in Pakistan?