A person is actually running on this platform. It's quite amazing. I am sick and ******* tired of hearing "their fair share". It disgusts me!

There is only one reason the dope is running on this, anyone want to venture a guess what it is? Come one leftists, you know why.

1% pays what 35% of income taxes
The bottom 50% pay no income taxes...

Yea whos greedy?

People need to remember that for committed leftists, their concept of "fair" is not necessarily the same as mine or yours. Just more semantic games to rope in the rubes.

(07-09-2012 06:07 PM)maximus Wrote:  A person is actually running on this platform. It's quite amazing. I am sick and ******* tired of hearing "their fair share". It disgusts me!

There is only one reason the dope is running on this, anyone want to venture a guess what it is? Come one leftists, you know why.

Class Warfare.

What is interesting to me is that the top 1% or 5% or 10% (take your pick) pay a larger share of the tax burden in the US than they do in almost any other country. I have actual numbers, but not handy, will try to post later. And as for the argument that they make more money here, well, it turns out that the percentage of tax they pay is higher than the percentage of income they receive--by a larger margin than any other country.

If you look at the European welfare states, they are funded primarily by consumption taxes. They pay out more benefits to the poor and middle classes, for sure, but they also collect a lot more taxes from them. The concept is everyone benefits (including the "rich," who are generally eligible for exactly the same benefits as everyone else) and everyone pays.

So when people say we are headed for a European-style socialist state, they are wrong. We're headed more for banana republic income redistribution.

When I hear the fools like Obama and Carney and the other idiot that used to be press secretary, say the words "fair share" I really would like to punch them in the face. I think to myself, what have these pieces of **** EVER PRODUCED?? NOTHING!!!! They would starve if they were not raping those who do produce.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!"
Those on the left need to sit back and honestly think about this little slogan as it applies to what Obama is trying to do to this country. If they are honest with themselves, they will realize it has never worked, and cannot ever work.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; the people who pay the least taxes use much more government than the people who pay the most. If this were really fair, the lower end of the tax payers would pay more.

Tax people by how much government they use. How much fairer can you get?

I can honestly say I've never received any government money of any kind. None. Other than using the roads and the protection the military provides (maybe a few other things I'm missing) I have zero use for the federal government.

I can also say this about both of my parents (who still live in a 1000 square foot house) and both brothers (one an attorney and the other a physician) no student loans, no nothing.

Spin, lies and stupidity. That describes this thread perfectly.

(07-09-2012 06:29 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-09-2012 06:07 PM)maximus Wrote:  A person is actually running on this platform. It's quite amazing. I am sick and ******* tired of hearing "their fair share". It disgusts me!

There is only one reason the dope is running on this, anyone want to venture a guess what it is? Come one leftists, you know why.

Class Warfare.

actually it's even more scary... I heard an audio clip from a certain politician currently in a position of power (you can guess which one) who stated that "Middle Class is just a state of mind"...

Yes, those were the words of our president. Guess who that lumps in with the "rich" next in the class warfare attack.... Yep, you and me... (those of us who don't make the infamous $250K "cut line"...)

(07-10-2012 01:21 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Spin, lies and stupidity. That describes this thread perfectly.

Nope nope and nope

If Obaffoon got every "tax the rich" increase he now purposes, it would only provide money, for 8 1/2 days. I'm telling you it is class warfare, Chicago style. Its part of his strategy to get re elected.

(07-10-2012 07:37 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 01:21 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Spin, lies and stupidity. That describes this thread perfectly.

Nope nope and nope

This isn't true.

"1% pays what 35% of income taxes
The bottom 50% pay no income taxes..."

Want to try again?

(07-10-2012 10:18 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 07:37 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 01:21 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Spin, lies and stupidity. That describes this thread perfectly.

Nope nope and nope

This isn't true.

"1% pays what 35% of income taxes
The bottom 50% pay no income taxes..."

Want to try again?

now if you want to split hairs we can

Facts evade Roberta.

(07-10-2012 10:46 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Facts evade Roberta.

Um, how about the FACT that I am in the bottom 50% and I paid taxes. My brother makes slightly more, is in the bottom 50% and he paid taxes.

Also note, that we are talking % here. When you make little money, of course the % of taxes they pay doesn't amount to much in the overall scheme of things. When you are in the top 1% of course you are going to pay a larger portion because you are being taxes on a MUCH larger amount of money.

It's an easy concept to win with. If there's one thing that Americans are really, really good at it is separation. Obama is taking a class of people and painting them as walking, talking piggy banks that refuse to give anything up for the good of the country. He doesn't have to say that they are already paying the majority of taxes because the American electorate isn't going to ask for much more than face value of what their candidate says.

(07-10-2012 10:55 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 10:46 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Facts evade Roberta.

Um, how about the FACT that I am in the bottom 50% and I paid taxes. My brother makes slightly more, is in the bottom 50% and he paid taxes.

Also note, that we are talking % here. When you make little money, of course the % of taxes they pay doesn't amount to much in the overall scheme of things. When you are in the top 1% of course you are going to pay a larger portion because you are being taxes on a MUCH larger amount of money.

Thanks for contributing to the 2.7%

(07-10-2012 10:55 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-10-2012 10:46 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Facts evade Roberta.

Um, how about the FACT that I am in the bottom 50% and I paid taxes. My brother makes slightly more, is in the bottom 50% and he paid taxes.

Also note, that we are talking % here. When you make little money, of course the % of taxes they pay doesn't amount to much in the overall scheme of things. When you are in the top 1% of course you are going to pay a larger portion because you are being taxes on a MUCH larger amount of money.

you make 20k and paid in taxes?

to be in that 2.7% you would have to be around 45-50%

i dont think 20k is in that range.