....... and the Individual Mandate didn't even make the Top 5.



http://reason.com/archives/2012/06/29/5-...ourt-rulin

I didn't read the whole thing but I have to assume Brown vs Board of Education was in there.

You do a lot of not reading, and then assuming, I've noticed.

I make a motion that RobertN get off his lazy ass, get off the internet, and get another job.

All 5 of these cases should have been decided by state courts. No reason for the federal courts to have even put them on the docket in the first place.

(06-30-2012 07:47 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ....... and the Individual Mandate didn't even make the Top 5.



http://reason.com/archives/2012/06/29/5-...ourt-rulin

These are true libertarian values, unfortunately most self-proclaimed libertarians wouldn't agree.

(06-30-2012 11:17 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:47 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ....... and the Individual Mandate didn't even make the Top 5.



http://reason.com/archives/2012/06/29/5-...ourt-rulin

These are true libertarian values, unfortunately most self-proclaimed libertarians wouldn't agree.

I see nothing here that any Liberty minded person would disagree with. I have no idea how you could possibly make that assertion.

I agree with the list overall. I'd probably have substituted Wickard for Raich though. And I'm glad they put the Miller test on there. The test should be void for vagueness.

(06-30-2012 09:11 PM)maximus Wrote:  I make a motion that RobertN get off his lazy ass, get off the internet, and get another job.

I make a motion that you go play in traffic.

(07-01-2012 08:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 11:17 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:47 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ....... and the Individual Mandate didn't even make the Top 5.



http://reason.com/archives/2012/06/29/5-...ourt-rulin

These are true libertarian values, unfortunately most self-proclaimed libertarians wouldn't agree.

I see nothing here that any Liberty minded person would disagree with. I have no idea how you could possibly make that assertion.

Try reading the post again. He is saying that many of the people that call them "Libertarians" actually aren't libertarians and would not agree. I believe SOAF disagrees with legalizing pot and yet tries to portray himself as a Libertarian.

(07-01-2012 10:15 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:11 PM)maximus Wrote:  I make a motion that RobertN get off his lazy ass, get off the internet, and get another job.

I make a motion that you go play in traffic.

Well, I guess you're still being a lazy good for nothing this morning.

(07-01-2012 10:25 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 08:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 11:17 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:47 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ....... and the Individual Mandate didn't even make the Top 5.



http://reason.com/archives/2012/06/29/5-...ourt-rulin

These are true libertarian values, unfortunately most self-proclaimed libertarians wouldn't agree.

I see nothing here that any Liberty minded person would disagree with. I have no idea how you could possibly make that assertion.

Try reading the post again. He is saying that many of the people that call them "Libertarians" actually aren't libertarians and would not agree. I believe SOAF disagrees with legalizing pot and yet tries to portray himself as a Libertarian.

SOAF does not call himself a Libertarian but I bet you he would agree with all 5.

(07-01-2012 10:27 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 10:15 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:11 PM)maximus Wrote:  I make a motion that RobertN get off his lazy ass, get off the internet, and get another job.

I make a motion that you go play in traffic.

Well, I guess you're still being a lazy good for nothing this morning.

Yep. I am lazy on my day off. THe horror! I am going to go help the economy later and go grocery shopping WITHOUT FOOD STAMPS! Might even do some other shopping as well. Hey, I have to do my part to keep the economy going, right?

(07-01-2012 11:16 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 10:27 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 10:15 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:11 PM)maximus Wrote:  I make a motion that RobertN get off his lazy ass, get off the internet, and get another job.

I make a motion that you go play in traffic.

Well, I guess you're still being a lazy good for nothing this morning.

Yep. I am lazy on my day off. THe horror! I am going to go help the economy later and go grocery shopping WITHOUT FOOD STAMPS! Might even do some other shopping as well. Hey, I have to do my part to keep the economy going, right?

So you make 20k and refuse to get another job (obviously you get days off), probably refuse to pay for health insurance, have internet, a cell phone etc etc

And you are talking about going to shop for things that are most likely not a necessity. Do you receive any form of government assistance ?

(07-01-2012 08:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 11:17 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 07:47 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ....... and the Individual Mandate didn't even make the Top 5.



http://reason.com/archives/2012/06/29/5-...ourt-rulin

These are true libertarian values, unfortunately most self-proclaimed libertarians wouldn't agree.

I see nothing here that any Liberty minded person would disagree with. I have no idea how you could possibly make that assertion.

I was more speaking to those whom I know IRL, neocons who like to portray themselves as libertarians.

The libertarian movement, at least the aspects/members of it that are in line with political ideology itself (think Ron Paul), is a respectable movement that I don't have a major problem with. I don't agree with it, and often find many of its answers to be overly simplistic and shortsighted (I'm sure many libertarians will say the same about my views), but at least it is consistent and rationally based. I don't see the same legitimacy in the modern (post- Goldwater) conservative movement, where they seem to be nothing but democrats who refuse to raise taxes for the money they're spending.

The values and concepts based in the article are those that I fully agree with and can definitely respect the Libertarian movement for.

(07-01-2012 01:09 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 11:16 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 10:27 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 10:15 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:11 PM)maximus Wrote:  I make a motion that RobertN get off his lazy ass, get off the internet, and get another job.

I make a motion that you go play in traffic.

Well, I guess you're still being a lazy good for nothing this morning.

Yep. I am lazy on my day off. THe horror! I am going to go help the economy later and go grocery shopping WITHOUT FOOD STAMPS! Might even do some other shopping as well. Hey, I have to do my part to keep the economy going, right?

So you make 20k and refuse to get another job (obviously you get days off), probably refuse to pay for health insurance, have internet, a cell phone etc etc

And you are talking about going to shop for things that are most likely not a necessity. Do you receive any form of government assistance ?

I have REALLY basic cable(local channels /C-Span and weather Channel) and the cheapest internet that Comcast provides. I Spend $25/month on a cell phone. No. I do not have insurance. I live off the government tit, didn't you get the word?

(07-01-2012 05:32 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I do not have insurance.

So, the president is about to sic the IRS on you.

Congratulations. You got what you wanted.

(07-01-2012 05:32 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 01:09 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 11:16 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 10:27 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 10:15 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I make a motion that you go play in traffic.

Well, I guess you're still being a lazy good for nothing this morning.

Yep. I am lazy on my day off. THe horror! I am going to go help the economy later and go grocery shopping WITHOUT FOOD STAMPS! Might even do some other shopping as well. Hey, I have to do my part to keep the economy going, right?

So you make 20k and refuse to get another job (obviously you get days off), probably refuse to pay for health insurance, have internet, a cell phone etc etc

And you are talking about going to shop for things that are most likely not a necessity. Do you receive any form of government assistance ?

I have REALLY basic cable(local channels /C-Span and weather Channel) and the cheapest internet that Comcast provides. I Spend $25/month on a cell phone. No. I do not have insurance. I live off the government tit, didn't you get the word?

Do you accept any government assistance?

If you have days off why don't you work those days somewhere else and get a health insurance policy?

(07-01-2012 05:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 05:32 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I do not have insurance.

So, the president is about to sic the IRS on you.

Congratulations. You got what you wanted.

Not if I pay my tax or get health insurance by the time it goes into effect. :)

(07-01-2012 06:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 05:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-01-2012 05:32 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I do not have insurance.

So, the president is about to sic the IRS on you.

Congratulations. You got what you wanted.

Not if I pay my tax or get health insurance by the time it goes into effect. :)

The joke's on you. You're going to pay, either way.