(06-22-2012 07:47 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 07:44 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(06-21-2012 11:50 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Stereotype much?

Does the shoe fit?

In your mind, I'm sure it does.

In everyone who's honest it does...

(06-22-2012 08:03 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 07:47 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 07:44 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(06-21-2012 11:50 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Stereotype much?

Does the shoe fit?

In your mind, I'm sure it does.

In everyone who's honest it does...

Oh give me a break. I live in Atlanta and work with a lot of black guys who you would probably look at and instantly stereotype like that, none of them have grills, none of them drive Cadillacs, none of them have huge rims, and none of them have closets full of expensive clothes.

Are there black guys out there who fit the stereotype? Sure there are, the "hood rich" stereotype wouldn't exist if there was nothing to support it, but they are the loud, obnoxious minority who give plenty of hardworking black men a bad name.

There aren't any white trash rednecks out there who spend their welfare checks on muddin tires and suspension for their pickup trucks and drinking bud light and doing meth and going to NASCAR events, right?

Best thread ever. I am going to start carry my pliers with me... flip the switch *itch.

(06-22-2012 08:39 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 08:03 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 07:47 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 07:44 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(06-21-2012 11:50 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Stereotype much?

Does the shoe fit?

In your mind, I'm sure it does.

In everyone who's honest it does...

Oh give me a break. I live in Atlanta and work with a lot of black guys who you would probably look at and instantly stereotype like that, none of them have grills, none of them drive Cadillacs, none of them have huge rims, and none of them have closets full of expensive clothes.

Are there black guys out there who fit the stereotype? Sure there are, the "hood rich" stereotype wouldn't exist if there was nothing to support it, but they are the loud, obnoxious minority who give plenty of hardworking black men a bad name.

There aren't any white trash rednecks out there who spend their welfare checks on muddin tires and suspension for their pickup trucks and drinking bud light and doing meth and going to NASCAR events, right?

Chill bro. Everybody stereotypes. If we didn't stereotype blacks they'd say that by leaving them out we were discriminating against them. How many comments do you see on this board about southern conservatives? A lot.

(06-22-2012 08:56 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 08:39 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 08:03 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 07:47 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 07:44 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  Does the shoe fit?

In your mind, I'm sure it does.

In everyone who's honest it does...

Oh give me a break. I live in Atlanta and work with a lot of black guys who you would probably look at and instantly stereotype like that, none of them have grills, none of them drive Cadillacs, none of them have huge rims, and none of them have closets full of expensive clothes.

Are there black guys out there who fit the stereotype? Sure there are, the "hood rich" stereotype wouldn't exist if there was nothing to support it, but they are the loud, obnoxious minority who give plenty of hardworking black men a bad name.

There aren't any white trash rednecks out there who spend their welfare checks on muddin tires and suspension for their pickup trucks and drinking bud light and doing meth and going to NASCAR events, right?

Chill bro. Everybody stereotypes. If we didn't stereotype blacks they'd say that by leaving them out we were discriminating against them. How many comments do you see on this board about southern conservatives? A lot.

I get it, but let's be honest, this type of stereotype is much worse than the stereotypes bandied around about southern conservatives. The specific stereotyping is basically calling someone worthless and a drain on society and while I certainly have my beefs with many southern conservatives, I would rarely call any of them worthless or a drain on society.

My issue is the implication that being a worthless POS that collects welfare and spends it on cars, drugs, clothes, alcohol, big screen tvs, xbox etc. is inherently a black thing. There are plenty of white people who fit the exact same stereotypes, but instead of buying Cadillacs with rims, they're buying pickup trucks with muddin tires, instead of handguns they're buying shotguns, instead of living in the projects, they're living in the trailer park, instead of blaring Jay Z from their expensive stereo systems they're blaring Hank, they're both buying beer and drugs and playing xbox.

(06-22-2012 09:06 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I get it, but let's be honest, this type of stereotype is much worse than the stereotypes bandied around about southern conservatives. The specific stereotyping is basically calling someone worthless and a drain on society and while I certainly have my beefs with many southern conservatives, I would rarely call any of them worthless or a drain on society.

My issue is the implication that being a worthless POS that collects welfare and spends it on cars, drugs, clothes, alcohol, big screen tvs, xbox etc. is inherently a black thing. There are plenty of white people who fit the exact same stereotypes, but instead of buying Cadillacs with rims, they're buying pickup trucks with muddin tires, instead of handguns they're buying shotguns, instead of living in the projects, they're living in the trailer park, instead of blaring Jay Z from their expensive stereo systems they're blaring Hank, they're both buying beer and drugs and playing xbox.

I don't spend much time in trailer parks, but I have yet to see a nice truck on some Super Swampers there. Those "rednecks" you are referring to have JOBS, and pay for those things out of their own pocket... making it none of your dang business.

Now, a Cadi on some 24's in the ghetto is pretty common though and I'm not sure slinging crack constitutes a job. Let's be realistic if we want to talk stereotypes.

(06-22-2012 09:31 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 09:06 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I get it, but let's be honest, this type of stereotype is much worse than the stereotypes bandied around about southern conservatives. The specific stereotyping is basically calling someone worthless and a drain on society and while I certainly have my beefs with many southern conservatives, I would rarely call any of them worthless or a drain on society.

My issue is the implication that being a worthless POS that collects welfare and spends it on cars, drugs, clothes, alcohol, big screen tvs, xbox etc. is inherently a black thing. There are plenty of white people who fit the exact same stereotypes, but instead of buying Cadillacs with rims, they're buying pickup trucks with muddin tires, instead of handguns they're buying shotguns, instead of living in the projects, they're living in the trailer park, instead of blaring Jay Z from their expensive stereo systems they're blaring Hank, they're both buying beer and drugs and playing xbox.

I don't spend much time in trailer parks, but I have yet to see a nice truck on some Super Swampers there. Those "rednecks" you are referring to have JOBS, and pay for those things out of their own pocket... making it none of your dang business.

Now, a Cadi on some 24's in the ghetto is pretty common though and I'm not sure slinging crack constitutes a job. Let's be realistic if we want to talk stereotypes.

Every redneck in a trailer park has a job and every thug in the ghetto slings rock. Got it.

Just so we're clear I rate the tpt at the same level as the nigga rich. Both are worthless.
TPT=trailer Park trash

BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.

(06-22-2012 09:58 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Just so we're clear I rate the tpt at the same level as the nigga rich. Both are worthless.
TPT=trailer Park trash

BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.

You are being a little harsh on yourself.

(06-22-2012 09:06 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I get it, but let's be honest, this type of stereotype is much worse than the stereotypes bandied around about southern conservatives.

This is the type of thinking that gets to me. We can't use the N word becuase it offends a certain ethnic class of people, but we can use honky, cracker, etc because it's deemed to not be as bad. Now we can't stereotype certain ethnic groups but we can stereotpye southern conservatives because it's deemed to not be as bad.

Do you see a double standard here? And do you think that one group is being overly sensitive while another group is being told to get over it?

(06-22-2012 10:23 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 09:06 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I get it, but let's be honest, this type of stereotype is much worse than the stereotypes bandied around about southern conservatives.

This is the type of thinking that gets to me. We can't use the N word becuase it offends a certain ethnic class of people, but we can use honky, cracker, etc because it's deemed to not be as bad. Now we can't stereotype certain ethnic groups but we can stereotpye southern conservatives because it's deemed to not be as bad.

Do you see a double standard here? And do you think that one group is being overly sensitive while another group is being told to get over it?

Welcome to white guilt America.

(06-22-2012 09:31 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 09:06 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I get it, but let's be honest, this type of stereotype is much worse than the stereotypes bandied around about southern conservatives. The specific stereotyping is basically calling someone worthless and a drain on society and while I certainly have my beefs with many southern conservatives, I would rarely call any of them worthless or a drain on society.

My issue is the implication that being a worthless POS that collects welfare and spends it on cars, drugs, clothes, alcohol, big screen tvs, xbox etc. is inherently a black thing. There are plenty of white people who fit the exact same stereotypes, but instead of buying Cadillacs with rims, they're buying pickup trucks with muddin tires, instead of handguns they're buying shotguns, instead of living in the projects, they're living in the trailer park, instead of blaring Jay Z from their expensive stereo systems they're blaring Hank, they're both buying beer and drugs and playing xbox.

I don't spend much time in trailer parks, but I have yet to see a nice truck on some Super Swampers there. Those "rednecks" you are referring to have JOBS, and pay for those thing out of their own pocket... making it none of your dang business.

Now, a Cadi on some 24's in the ghetto is pretty common though and I'm not sure slinging crack constitutes a job. Let's be realistic if we want to talk stereotypes.

Wow! So the owner of a caddy on 24's in the ghetto can't be a law abiding, tax paying citizen visiting their grandmother. Stereotype much? I hope that you aren't a cop or an employer.

(06-22-2012 10:23 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 09:06 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I get it, but let's be honest, this type of stereotype is much worse than the stereotypes bandied around about southern conservatives.

This is the type of thinking that gets to me. We can't use the N word becuase it offends a certain ethnic class of people, but we can use honky, cracker, etc because it's deemed to not be as bad. Now we can't stereotype certain ethnic groups but we can stereotpye southern conservatives because it's deemed to not be as bad.

Do you see a double standard here? And do you think that one group is being overly sensitive while another group is being told to get over it?

You can use the N-word. Feel free to use your first amendment right.

(06-22-2012 10:23 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 09:06 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I get it, but let's be honest, this type of stereotype is much worse than the stereotypes bandied around about southern conservatives.

This is the type of thinking that gets to me. We can't use the N word becuase it offends a certain ethnic class of people, but we can use honky, cracker, etc because it's deemed to not be as bad. Now we can't stereotype certain ethnic groups but we can stereotpye southern conservatives because it's deemed to not be as bad.

Do you see a double standard here? And do you think that one group is being overly sensitive while another group is being told to get over it?

Not even remotely what I said, but thanks for taking me out of context.

My problem with the the discussion was that the stereotype being bandied about was specifically about "hood rich" black people which is an extremely negative stereotype and very specific to poor black people, the problem is negative stereotyping(perhaps not quite to the extent that IMATY detailed) is commonly applied to any black person who isn't in a white collar job and even white collar blacks have negative stereotyping attached to them, many people instantly think of affirmative action any time they see a black person in a white collar job.

My point was that there are plenty of white people who fit the "hood rich" stereotype as well, it's just due to their interests being more closely associated with those of the middle class white america, they don't stand out as much. The middle class white American is far quicker to stereotype a black man who sags his jeans and wears flashy jewelry than he is a white man in beat up jeans with a rebel flag or NASCAR t-shirt, but much like wearing beat up jeans and a rebel flag or NASCAR t-shirt doesn't mean that you are a white trash meth head, sagging your jeans and wearing flashy jewelry doen't mean you're a worthless hood rich gangster.

And yes, I do think the hood rich stereotype is more dangerous than the southern conservative stereotype. When someone stereotypes a black man who's wearing his jeans below his ass or whatever there is not a single positive thing attached to that stereotype and I think it's more far reaching. "drug dealer, broken home, gangbanger, welfare, foodstamps, criminal record, undeducated and unemployed" where as the negative stereotypes associated with being a southern conservative are mostly based around political ideology. I'm not saying it's not dangerous to stereotype them as well, I just don't think the things associated with the stereotype are nearly as negative.

What is the difference between grills, chains and rings? Nothing. All are silly jewelry. Thieves steal jewelry.

As for stereotypes? I could give 2 sh!ts what you wear. Just don't expect me to hire your ass if you look like a clown. Ever wonder why you see so many of these jokers on the street? No one else wants to hire their stupid asses either.

When I retire, I am going into a new business. I am going to sell full length mirrors. From what I see walking around daily, lots of people don't have one.

What is the difference between grills, chains and rings? Nothing. %

Grills are so 70's.

Richard Kiel is 7'2". Richard Kiel can wear anything he wants/wanted.

(06-22-2012 12:32 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Grills are so 70's.

Why did you just post a picture of Mitt Romney?

(06-22-2012 10:41 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Wow! So the owner of a caddy on 24's in the ghetto can't be a law abiding, tax paying citizen visiting their grandmother. Stereotype much? I hope that you aren't a cop or an employer.

sure firmbzzle. They are ALL visiting there granny's. Frim serious question for you...Have you ever been to the hood? If you are from Cincy I am pretty surpised you think grills and cady's on 24's belong to working, law abiding citizens... your average middle class and upper class african american doesn't even agree with that.