(05-30-2012 08:57 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 08:15 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  Make Tulane a distant fifth. It's really fluid between #2 and #4.

It's true. Here's the average Sagarin Rating over the past 10 years:

1. La Tech (98.5)
2. ULL (127.9)
3. ULM (130.9)
4. Tulane (137.3)

#2 in the state:

2002: Tulane
2003: La Tech
2004: La Tech
2005: La Tech
2006: ULM
2007: ULM
2008: La Tech
2009: La Tech
2010: La Tech
2011: La Tech

Again Jeff Sagarin sniffs glue...

(05-30-2012 12:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  If UL and La Tech played last year UL would have won. UL has the 2nd best attendance and Ive seen the Cajuns and they are a proud fan base. I dont see them having a bad season this year either.

What are you basing that on?

(05-30-2012 01:01 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 12:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  If UL and La Tech played last year UL would have won. UL has the 2nd best attendance and Ive seen the Cajuns and they are a proud fan base. I dont see them having a bad season this year either.

What are you basing that on?

Its my opinion from an outsider.....UL was a very strong program in the Belt this year...Stronger than ASU at the end in my opinion...I think they would have beaten La Tech, even though La Tech won the WAC. everyone knows the WAC is the weakest league last year.

(05-30-2012 01:02 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:01 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 12:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  If UL and La Tech played last year UL would have won. UL has the 2nd best attendance and Ive seen the Cajuns and they are a proud fan base. I dont see them having a bad season this year either.

What are you basing that on?

Its my opinion from an outsider.....UL was a very strong program in the Belt this year...Stronger than ASU at the end in my opinion...I think they would have beaten La Tech, even though La Tech won the WAC. everyone knows the WAC is the weakest league last year.

But dude...they beat powerhouses New Mexico State and San Jose State! Noe won canz beets themz!

It's very hard to tell. ULL didn't play anyone ranked where Tech finished (#39). They lost to #3 by 27 points and lost to #60 by 8 points.

Tech played several teams ranked around where ULL finished (#89), with mixed results:

69. Utah St (won by 7)
87. Hawaii (lost by 18)
95. SJ State (won by 10)
96. Fresno St (won by 20)

ULL could have beaten Tech, but they would have needed to play good and Tech not so good. I don't think it is fair to say they definitely would have won.

(05-30-2012 01:20 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:02 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:01 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 12:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  If UL and La Tech played last year UL would have won. UL has the 2nd best attendance and Ive seen the Cajuns and they are a proud fan base. I dont see them having a bad season this year either.

What are you basing that on?

Its my opinion from an outsider.....UL was a very strong program in the Belt this year...Stronger than ASU at the end in my opinion...I think they would have beaten La Tech, even though La Tech won the WAC. everyone knows the WAC is the weakest league last year.

But dude...they beat powerhouses New Mexico State and San Jose State! Noe won canz beets themz!

And ull beat kent state ooc and went to their first bowl!

(05-30-2012 01:58 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:20 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:02 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:01 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 12:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  If UL and La Tech played last year UL would have won. UL has the 2nd best attendance and Ive seen the Cajuns and they are a proud fan base. I dont see them having a bad season this year either.

What are you basing that on?

Its my opinion from an outsider.....UL was a very strong program in the Belt this year...Stronger than ASU at the end in my opinion...I think they would have beaten La Tech, even though La Tech won the WAC. everyone knows the WAC is the weakest league last year.

But dude...they beat powerhouses New Mexico State and San Jose State! Noe won canz beets themz!

And ull beat kent state ooc and went to their first bowl!

And steadily improved from that point forward. New coach, new QB....
I don't buy into any Team A would have beaten Team B arguments when they are fairly closely rated teams. And they were! Pure speculation as to who would have won!
As I stated earlier - just hope the two teams meet as currently scheduled.

(05-30-2012 02:25 PM)Shof Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:58 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:20 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:02 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:01 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  What are you basing that on?

Its my opinion from an outsider.....UL was a very strong program in the Belt this year...Stronger than ASU at the end in my opinion...I think they would have beaten La Tech, even though La Tech won the WAC. everyone knows the WAC is the weakest league last year.

But dude...they beat powerhouses New Mexico State and San Jose State! Noe won canz beets themz!

And ull beat kent state ooc and went to their first bowl!

And steadily improved from that point forward. New coach, new QB....
I don't buy into any Team A would have beaten Team B arguments when they are fairly closely rated teams. And they were! Pure speculation as to who would have won!
As I stated earlier - just hope the two teams meet as currently scheduled.

Tech won 28-23

http://whatifsports.com/ncaafb/boxscore....3&nomenu=1

(05-29-2012 10:41 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Doesnt matter...I look at UL as being the 2nd best Football Program in the State.

UL-L is improving but Troy is still the team to beat because of their run of success in the Belt. One winning season doesn't mean anything, same for UL-L or Tech.

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I like the fact that LA Tech fans feel the need to come on this board to try to prove something. The WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011. Also, LA Tech has not played UL for several years, so we do not know what the outcome would have been. UL won their bowl game against San Diego State, while LA Tech lost their bowl game to TCU. UL has better athletic facilities than LA Tech, including an indoor practice facility. Also, UL has a better well-rounded athletic program w/ our basketball, baseball, and softball teams. The Cajuns will only improve their football team in 2012.

(05-30-2012 07:53 PM)Bigtom9221 Wrote:  [quote='T_Won1' pid='7946445' dateline='1338407560']
[quote='Shof' pid='7946368' dateline='1338405913']
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I like the fact that LA Tech fans feel the need to come on this board to try to prove something. The WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011. Also, LA Tech has not played UL for several years, so we do not know what the outcome would have been. UL won their bowl game against San Diego State, while LA Tech lost their bowl game to TCU. UL has better athletic facilities than LA Tech, including an indoor practice facility. Also, UL has a better well-rounded athletic program w/ our basketball, baseball, and softball teams. The Cajuns will only improve their football team in 2012.

The title of this thread asked a simple question. Your point of whether or not the WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011 has no affect on the athletic budgets of Tech and ULL. Tech will grow its annual budget to $20M as part of our CUSA membership beginning in 2013. ULL's budget won't be near that. The question that was asked in this thread's title is WHY? Why don't more people in Acadiana donate to RCAF? Why has NO rich alumnus come forth, one that gives a crap about ULL athletics enough to invest in its athletic program? Why is ULL's athletic budget so much lower than Tech's in the first place?

(05-31-2012 06:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 07:53 PM)Bigtom9221 Wrote:  [quote='T_Won1' pid='7946445' dateline='1338407560']
[quote='Shof' pid='7946368' dateline='1338405913']
[quote='Dorrej' pid='7946242' dateline='1338404303']
[quote='Tuffguy21' pid='7946082' dateline='1338402023']
[quote='Atlanta Trojan' pid='7946021' dateline='1338400965']

I like the fact that LA Tech fans feel the need to come on this board to try to prove something. The WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011. Also, LA Tech has not played UL for several years, so we do not know what the outcome would have been. UL won their bowl game against San Diego State, while LA Tech lost their bowl game to TCU. UL has better athletic facilities than LA Tech, including an indoor practice facility. Also, UL has a better well-rounded athletic program w/ our basketball, baseball, and softball teams. The Cajuns will only improve their football team in 2012.

The title of this thread asked a simple question. Your point of whether or not the WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011 has no affect on the athletic budgets of Tech and ULL. Tech will grow its annual budget to $20M as part of our CUSA membership beginning in 2013. ULL's budget won't be near that. The question that was asked in this thread's title is WHY? Why don't more people in Acadiana donate to RCAF? Why has NO rich alumnus come forth, one that gives a crap about ULL athletics enough to invest in its athletic program? Why is ULL's athletic budget so much lower than Tech's in the first place?

The answer to many of your questions is President Authement, also known as the fossil. He led UL for around four decades, and refused to let coaches approach donors who also donated to academics. We started our RCAF only a couple of years ago. He alienated many would be donors for decades. Also getting WAC NCAA basketball money you did not earn helped you all a lot.

I will put up the money in the UL foundation vs LTU any day, and sports RCAF won't be a decade behind much longer. Good luck in CUSA, will be pretty easy to win the West, but what about the East answer?

(05-31-2012 06:59 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 06:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 07:53 PM)Bigtom9221 Wrote:  [quote='T_Won1' pid='7946445' dateline='1338407560']
[quote='Shof' pid='7946368' dateline='1338405913']
[quote='Dorrej' pid='7946242' dateline='1338404303']
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[quote='Atlanta Trojan' pid='7946021' dateline='1338400965']

I like the fact that LA Tech fans feel the need to come on this board to try to prove something. The WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011. Also, LA Tech has not played UL for several years, so we do not know what the outcome would have been. UL won their bowl game against San Diego State, while LA Tech lost their bowl game to TCU. UL has better athletic facilities than LA Tech, including an indoor practice facility. Also, UL has a better well-rounded athletic program w/ our basketball, baseball, and softball teams. The Cajuns will only improve their football team in 2012.

The title of this thread asked a simple question. Your point of whether or not the WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011 has no affect on the athletic budgets of Tech and ULL. Tech will grow its annual budget to $20M as part of our CUSA membership beginning in 2013. ULL's budget won't be near that. The question that was asked in this thread's title is WHY? Why don't more people in Acadiana donate to RCAF? Why has NO rich alumnus come forth, one that gives a crap about ULL athletics enough to invest in its athletic program? Why is ULL's athletic budget so much lower than Tech's in the first place?

The answer to many of your questions is President Authement, also known as the fossil. He led UL for around four decades, and refused to let coaches approach donors who also donated to academics. We started our RCAF only a couple of years ago. He alienated many would be donors for decades. Also getting WAC NCAA basketball money you did not earn helped you all a lot.

I will put up the money in the UL foundation vs LTU any day, and sports RCAF won't be a decade behind much longer. Good luck in CUSA, will be pretty easy to win the West, but what about the East answer?

What is the East question?

(05-31-2012 04:42 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 06:59 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 06:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 07:53 PM)Bigtom9221 Wrote:  [quote='T_Won1' pid='7946445' dateline='1338407560']
[quote='Shof' pid='7946368' dateline='1338405913']
[quote='Dorrej' pid='7946242' dateline='1338404303']
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[quote='Atlanta Trojan' pid='7946021' dateline='1338400965']

I like the fact that LA Tech fans feel the need to come on this board to try to prove something. The WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011. Also, LA Tech has not played UL for several years, so we do not know what the outcome would have been. UL won their bowl game against San Diego State, while LA Tech lost their bowl game to TCU. UL has better athletic facilities than LA Tech, including an indoor practice facility. Also, UL has a better well-rounded athletic program w/ our basketball, baseball, and softball teams. The Cajuns will only improve their football team in 2012.

The title of this thread asked a simple question. Your point of whether or not the WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011 has no affect on the athletic budgets of Tech and ULL. Tech will grow its annual budget to $20M as part of our CUSA membership beginning in 2013. ULL's budget won't be near that. The question that was asked in this thread's title is WHY? Why don't more people in Acadiana donate to RCAF? Why has NO rich alumnus come forth, one that gives a crap about ULL athletics enough to invest in its athletic program? Why is ULL's athletic budget so much lower than Tech's in the first place?

The answer to many of your questions is President Authement, also known as the fossil. He led UL for around four decades, and refused to let coaches approach donors who also donated to academics. We started our RCAF only a couple of years ago. He alienated many would be donors for decades. Also getting WAC NCAA basketball money you did not earn helped you all a lot.

I will put up the money in the UL foundation vs LTU any day, and sports RCAF won't be a decade behind much longer. Good luck in CUSA, will be pretty easy to win the West, but what about the East answer?

What is the East question?

I think you will not have to be too good to win the CUSA West, but to win the overall championship, you will have to go though USM, not an easy route. I think LTU will be in the West. Biggest challenge in the West will be Tulsa on a recurring basis.

As a North Texas fan...I'd love to see a ULL vs. La Tech game.

(05-31-2012 04:49 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 04:42 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 06:59 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 06:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 07:53 PM)Bigtom9221 Wrote:  [quote='T_Won1' pid='7946445' dateline='1338407560']
[quote='Shof' pid='7946368' dateline='1338405913']
[quote='Dorrej' pid='7946242' dateline='1338404303']
[quote='Tuffguy21' pid='7946082' dateline='1338402023']
[quote='Atlanta Trojan' pid='7946021' dateline='1338400965']

I like the fact that LA Tech fans feel the need to come on this board to try to prove something. The WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011. Also, LA Tech has not played UL for several years, so we do not know what the outcome would have been. UL won their bowl game against San Diego State, while LA Tech lost their bowl game to TCU. UL has better athletic facilities than LA Tech, including an indoor practice facility. Also, UL has a better well-rounded athletic program w/ our basketball, baseball, and softball teams. The Cajuns will only improve their football team in 2012.

The title of this thread asked a simple question. Your point of whether or not the WAC was weaker than the Sunbelt in 2011 has no affect on the athletic budgets of Tech and ULL. Tech will grow its annual budget to $20M as part of our CUSA membership beginning in 2013. ULL's budget won't be near that. The question that was asked in this thread's title is WHY? Why don't more people in Acadiana donate to RCAF? Why has NO rich alumnus come forth, one that gives a crap about ULL athletics enough to invest in its athletic program? Why is ULL's athletic budget so much lower than Tech's in the first place?

The answer to many of your questions is President Authement, also known as the fossil. He led UL for around four decades, and refused to let coaches approach donors who also donated to academics. We started our RCAF only a couple of years ago. He alienated many would be donors for decades. Also getting WAC NCAA basketball money you did not earn helped you all a lot.

I will put up the money in the UL foundation vs LTU any day, and sports RCAF won't be a decade behind much longer. Good luck in CUSA, will be pretty easy to win the West, but what about the East answer?

What is the East question?

I think you will not have to be too good to win the CUSA West, but to win the overall championship, you will have to go though USM, not an easy route. I think LTU will be in the West. Biggest challenge in the West will be Tulsa on a recurring basis.

I think you're dead on. I agree that the East will be the tougher division in 2013. USM is always tough and ECU normally is too. I look forward to playing both of them regularly.

What is ULL's all time record against Tech in Men's BB and Baseball? I know we have the edge in football but curious about the other 2 sports.

(05-30-2012 01:42 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  It's very hard to tell. ULL didn't play anyone ranked where Tech finished (#39). They lost to #3 by 27 points and lost to #60 by 8 points.

Tech played several teams ranked around where ULL finished (#89), with mixed results:

69. Utah St (won by 7)
87. Hawaii (lost by 18)
95. SJ State (won by 10)
96. Fresno St (won by 20)

ULL could have beaten Tech, but they would have needed to play good and Tech not so good. I don't think it is fair to say they definitely would have won.

Those are sagarin rankings.....ULL was ranked higher than LT in 4 of the 6 computer rankings that comprise the BCS formula and was ranked quite a bit higher in the human polls....The only two computer rankings that ranked LT higher were the two that include FCS teams with FBS teams. ULL was ranked higher in all 4 computer rankings that do not include FCS teams. Once again, the Sagarin rating is only 1/6 of the computer ranking portion of the BCS rankings formula. Overall, last year ASU and ULL were ranked quite a bit higher in the final BCS rankings than LT. LT's final ranking was similar to FIU's, which placed 4th in the Sun Belt.

(06-01-2012 11:52 PM)BMcKitchup Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 01:42 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  It's very hard to tell. ULL didn't play anyone ranked where Tech finished (#39). They lost to #3 by 27 points and lost to #60 by 8 points.

Tech played several teams ranked around where ULL finished (#89), with mixed results:

69. Utah St (won by 7)
87. Hawaii (lost by 18)
95. SJ State (won by 10)
96. Fresno St (won by 20)

ULL could have beaten Tech, but they would have needed to play good and Tech not so good. I don't think it is fair to say they definitely would have won.

Those are sagarin rankings.....ULL was ranked higher than LT in 4 of the 6 computer rankings that comprise the BCS formula and was ranked quite a bit higher in the human polls....The only two computer rankings that ranked LT higher were the two that include FCS teams with FBS teams. ULL was ranked higher in all 4 computer rankings that do not include FCS teams. Once again, the Sagarin rating is only 1/6 of the computer ranking portion of the BCS rankings formula. Overall, last year ASU and ULL were ranked quite a bit higher in the final BCS rankings than LT. LT's final ranking was similar to FIU's, which placed 4th in the Sun Belt.

dude that is such bullshite and you know it.