(03-01-2012 04:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Seriously, who cares if Josh leaves? I absolutely love the guy and want him to retire here, and I think that would be his wish, too. But stuff happens, and opportunities pop up, and sometimes you take them, sometimes not.

IF something comes along that he likes better, then I wish him well, and hope he is successful and happy. Then we would go get another coach. That's how it's worked for 60+ years I've been watching. We have a great program. Even better going into the BE. And next time around, nobody will be following the evil but highly successful Calipari.

Having said that, Josh will probably stay here and be successful. But after Cal left, I'm just not going to sweat it any more.

You are a wise man Andy. If Josh really does leave, I will cry.

Click me

(03-01-2012 04:38 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 03:16 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 02:39 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 12:36 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 12:30 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  Well, according to that waste of time article on SI, UCLA players are typically not top ranked recruits and more under the radar type of players that the coach can get to buy into a team system. So if that is true, how are the top 100 recruits that Pastner recruits UCLA type players?

UCLA pursues top talent, so does Memphis. They often recruit the same players.

Quote:The core of the Bruins' Final Four teams came from Howland's first two recruiting classes: Arron Afflalo, Jordan Farmar, Lorenzo Mata-Real and Josh Shipp, all 2004 recruits; and Alfred Aboya, Darren Collison, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute and Michael Roll from 2005. Not one was considered a surefire NBA player. In Rivals.com's national rankings of high school prospects, only Farmar made the top 25. Most others failed to crack the top 50 (Collison was No. 100) or were barely ranked at all.

And Westbrook was an unranked recruit. So seems like their best years were achieved by recruiting the lower half of the top 100 and some hidden gems.

So I ask again, how are the players you mentioned UCLA type players when they don't fit this mold? Seems to me that all UCLA needs to do is stop recruiting the top ranked players and go back to the model that made them successful. Howland should be able to do that fine since he has already been successful doing it.

Memphis and UCLA are already recruiting the same players; meaning Josh has already established relationships with those players. Implying that the path for UCLA to return to form by not recruiting top 100 players seems illogical.

But that is pretty much what that article was insinuating. That Howland has veered from the Wooden Pyramid of Success by recruiting these highly ranked players with bigger egos and it has ruined the team concept that has made them successful in the past. I'm not implying anything. What's illogical is the comment that Pastner is recruiting UCLA type players. Really, it's idiotic.

Under what premise do you assume that the two types of players are mutually exclusive?

Do you guys think we should fire Pastner and then rehire him after the UCLA search is over? I doubt UCLA would want a coach that has recently been let go from his previous job.

I want a shout out Gary P

(03-01-2012 05:04 PM)okcomputer76 Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:55 PM)anothertigerfan Wrote:  Click me

I like this one better.....the only thing that comes up is this very thread

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=josh+pastner+ucla

So it's confirmed then.....

(03-01-2012 05:06 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I want a shout out Gary P

(03-01-2012 05:09 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 05:06 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I want a shout out Gary P

I wish I could find that commercial he was in.

(03-01-2012 04:47 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:10 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:09 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  Heard a private jet (not fedex) is heading to LA as we speak.

That's actually true, we just loaded and fueled it about an hour ago.

They made us leave the hangar so we couldn't see who was boarding.

Anyone watching the door?

Just talked to my manager, and he said there were 3 people on the jet. He refused to give names, but said it was a sports agent, and a young couple.

(03-01-2012 04:55 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:38 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 03:16 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 02:39 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 12:36 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  UCLA pursues top talent, so does Memphis. They often recruit the same players.

Quote:The core of the Bruins' Final Four teams came from Howland's first two recruiting classes: Arron Afflalo, Jordan Farmar, Lorenzo Mata-Real and Josh Shipp, all 2004 recruits; and Alfred Aboya, Darren Collison, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute and Michael Roll from 2005. Not one was considered a surefire NBA player. In Rivals.com's national rankings of high school prospects, only Farmar made the top 25. Most others failed to crack the top 50 (Collison was No. 100) or were barely ranked at all.

And Westbrook was an unranked recruit. So seems like their best years were achieved by recruiting the lower half of the top 100 and some hidden gems.

So I ask again, how are the players you mentioned UCLA type players when they don't fit this mold? Seems to me that all UCLA needs to do is stop recruiting the top ranked players and go back to the model that made them successful. Howland should be able to do that fine since he has already been successful doing it.

Memphis and UCLA are already recruiting the same players; meaning Josh has already established relationships with those players. Implying that the path for UCLA to return to form by not recruiting top 100 players seems illogical.

But that is pretty much what that article was insinuating. That Howland has veered from the Wooden Pyramid of Success by recruiting these highly ranked players with bigger egos and it has ruined the team concept that has made them successful in the past. I'm not implying anything. What's illogical is the comment that Pastner is recruiting UCLA type players. Really, it's idiotic.

Under what premise do you assume that the two types of players are mutually exclusive?

You are the one making them mutually exclusive. By your rationale you could say that Pastner recruits Georgia type players or New Mexico type players if you just look at what teams recruit the same players that Pastner recruits. Why are they only UCLA type players? Pac 12 or Big 10 type players? I can maybe see that being a reasonable statement because of a style of ball played within a conference. Why isn't it just Pastner recruits top talent as do other schools. Why are you pushing a UCLA agenda?

(03-01-2012 05:20 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:55 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:38 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 03:16 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 02:39 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  And Westbrook was an unranked recruit. So seems like their best years were achieved by recruiting the lower half of the top 100 and some hidden gems.

So I ask again, how are the players you mentioned UCLA type players when they don't fit this mold? Seems to me that all UCLA needs to do is stop recruiting the top ranked players and go back to the model that made them successful. Howland should be able to do that fine since he has already been successful doing it.

Memphis and UCLA are already recruiting the same players; meaning Josh has already established relationships with those players. Implying that the path for UCLA to return to form by not recruiting top 100 players seems illogical.

But that is pretty much what that article was insinuating. That Howland has veered from the Wooden Pyramid of Success by recruiting these highly ranked players with bigger egos and it has ruined the team concept that has made them successful in the past. I'm not implying anything. What's illogical is the comment that Pastner is recruiting UCLA type players. Really, it's idiotic.

Under what premise do you assume that the two types of players are mutually exclusive?

You are the one making them mutually exclusive. By your rationale you could say that Pastner recruits Georgia type players or New Mexico type players if you just look at what teams recruit the same players that Pastner recruits. Why are they only UCLA type players? Pac 12 or Big 10 type players? I can maybe see that being a reasonable statement because of a style of ball played within a conference. Why isn't it just Pastner recruits top talent as do other schools. Why are you pushing a UCLA agenda?

I am stating, factually, that Memphis and UCLA are recruiting some of the same players. Are they not?

(03-01-2012 05:09 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 05:06 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I want a shout out Gary P

(03-01-2012 05:25 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  I am stating, factually, that Memphis and UCLA are recruiting the some of the same players. Are they not?

awesome!

(03-01-2012 05:25 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 05:20 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:55 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:38 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 03:16 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  Memphis and UCLA are already recruiting the same players; meaning Josh has already established relationships with those players. Implying that the path for UCLA to return to form by not recruiting top 100 players seems illogical.

But that is pretty much what that article was insinuating. That Howland has veered from the Wooden Pyramid of Success by recruiting these highly ranked players with bigger egos and it has ruined the team concept that has made them successful in the past. I'm not implying anything. What's illogical is the comment that Pastner is recruiting UCLA type players. Really, it's idiotic.

Under what premise do you assume that the two types of players are mutually exclusive?

You are the one making them mutually exclusive. By your rationale you could say that Pastner recruits Georgia type players or New Mexico type players if you just look at what teams recruit the same players that Pastner recruits. Why are they only UCLA type players? Pac 12 or Big 10 type players? I can maybe see that being a reasonable statement because of a style of ball played within a conference. Why isn't it just Pastner recruits top talent as do other schools. Why are you pushing a UCLA agenda?

I am stating, factually, that Memphis and UCLA are recruiting the some of the same players. Are they not?

1.You can hone your skills here and not have too under the ucla or media pressure .

2. Get big enough to pick and choose from the best players in the world ( like another coach ).

3. Take your act where ever you choose and name your amount .

IMO , he is probably happier here "now" than he would be at ucla but that all could change .


JMO

(03-01-2012 05:25 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 05:20 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:55 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:38 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 03:16 PM)Band Tiger Wrote:  Memphis and UCLA are already recruiting the same players; meaning Josh has already established relationships with those players. Implying that the path for UCLA to return to form by not recruiting top 100 players seems illogical.

But that is pretty much what that article was insinuating. That Howland has veered from the Wooden Pyramid of Success by recruiting these highly ranked players with bigger egos and it has ruined the team concept that has made them successful in the past. I'm not implying anything. What's illogical is the comment that Pastner is recruiting UCLA type players. Really, it's idiotic.

Under what premise do you assume that the two types of players are mutually exclusive?

You are the one making them mutually exclusive. By your rationale you could say that Pastner recruits Georgia type players or New Mexico type players if you just look at what teams recruit the same players that Pastner recruits. Why are they only UCLA type players? Pac 12 or Big 10 type players? I can maybe see that being a reasonable statement because of a style of ball played within a conference. Why isn't it just Pastner recruits top talent as do other schools. Why are you pushing a UCLA agenda?

I am stating, factually, that Memphis and UCLA are recruiting the some of the same players. Are they not?

Tiger woods , right

(03-01-2012 05:16 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:47 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:10 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:09 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  Heard a private jet (not fedex) is heading to LA as we speak.

That's actually true, we just loaded and fueled it about an hour ago.

They made us leave the hangar so we couldn't see who was boarding.

Anyone watching the door?

Just talked to my manager, and he said there were 3 people on the jet. He refused to give names, but said it was a sports agent, and a young couple.

Cannon Smith, his g/f, and his agent flying to Oakland so he can try out for the Raiders... Duh... Lol

(03-01-2012 06:23 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 05:16 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:47 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:10 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 04:09 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  Heard a private jet (not fedex) is heading to LA as we speak.

That's actually true, we just loaded and fueled it about an hour ago.

They made us leave the hangar so we couldn't see who was boarding.

Anyone watching the door?

Just talked to my manager, and he said there were 3 people on the jet. He refused to give names, but said it was a sports agent, and a young couple.

Cannon Smith, his g/f, and his agent flying to Oakland so he can try out for the Raiders... Duh... Lol

I have no idea, but it wasn't a Fedex jet.