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Quote:"When they made that change, it was a bigger opportunity, bigger stage," he said. "I felt like it was the right thing to do."

He may not be playing after his first season....Beckman was desperate for bodies...

(02-02-2012 07:43 PM)66Huskie Wrote:  He may not be playing after his first season....Beckman was desperate for bodies...

I always laugh at those comments. So you are saying that U of I has far superior talent tha NIU? So He would start at NIU but be a bench warmer at U of I? By that logic, U of I should kick our a$$ because they have far superior talent on their roster. He might be a bust he might be all big 10. Don't know yet. What I do know is that he wants to try the big 10 and see if he can compete.

lolz have fun sucking in the Big Twelven and being upstaged by the rest of the Conference.

Good luck to the young man, I wish him the best but I will no longer take any interest in his college career. I will be paying attention to and rooting for the guys who signed with the Huskies!

(02-02-2012 08:05 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  lolz have fun sucking in the Big Twelven and being upstaged by the rest of the Conference.

But he and Osei are talented enough to star in the MAC? If you think he is going to suck than glad we didnt waste a scholarship on him.

(02-02-2012 08:17 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 08:05 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  lolz have fun sucking in the Big Twelven and being upstaged by the rest of the Conference.

But he and Osei are talented enough to star in the MAC? If you think he is going to suck than glad we didnt waste a scholarship on him.

There's a difference between sucking and never being given a chance. Osei is probably competing for the starting job here this year. Instead, because he went to a school with a freshman starting QB and a highly touted QB coming in the year after, he's now a RB.

(02-02-2012 08:24 PM)7 Wrote:  There's a difference between sucking and never being given a chance. Osei is probably competing for the starting job here this year. Instead, because he went to a school with a freshman starting QB and a highly touted QB coming in the year after, he's now a RB.

Not that it matters (he's still not really going to play), but Beckman is supposedly moving Osei back to QB.

(02-02-2012 08:24 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 08:17 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 08:05 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  lolz have fun sucking in the Big Twelven and being upstaged by the rest of the Conference.

But he and Osei are talented enough to star in the MAC? If you think he is going to suck than glad we didnt waste a scholarship on him.

There's a difference between sucking and never being given a chance. Osei is probably competing for the starting job here this year. Instead, because he went to a school with a freshman starting QB and a highly touted QB coming in the year after, he's now a RB.

I agree with that. If he was never going to get a fair chance at playing QB then Zook lied to him. If he came in to school and excelled but was not given a chance then Zook made a bad decision. He made a bad choice and went to U of I. If he came to NIU, would he be better than Lynch? Don't know but if he is 4th string material at u of i and he could be starting at NIU then NIU has much less talent than U of I.

With Church, if he is not given a chance or he is really not talented enough to play in the Big 10, they why do you care if he doesnt come to NIU? He still is not as talented as many thought.

Illinois probably does have more talent.

(02-02-2012 08:45 PM)7 Wrote:  Illinois probably does have more talent.

I agree overall they have more talent. Alot, thats debatable. But if Harnish went to U of I(and was given a chance), would he be the 3 string QB? Would Lynch be 4th string. If so, then the talent level at U of I is far superior to NIU. I don't think it is.

We have Keith Harris at NIU. He's the same size as Church. And, after seeing Harris' video, to me, he looked just as impressive as Church. Plus, he's a Chicago kid and he's Academic All-State. I'll take Harris.

(02-02-2012 08:35 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  Not that it matters (he's still not really going to play), but Beckman is supposedly moving Osei back to QB.

Not that I care about Osei, but my guess is he's regretting going to U of I. He's got Scheelhase and O'Toole ahead of him, so more than likely he'll spend his career there as a backup.

(02-02-2012 08:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  I agree overall they have more talent. Alot, thats debatable. But if Harnish went to U of I(and was given a chance), would he be the 3 string QB? Would Lynch be 4th string. If so, then the talent level at U of I is far superior to NIU. I don't think it is.

You're limiting it to a single position, and the relative levels of talent are going to be different at different positions.

(02-02-2012 08:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 08:45 PM)7 Wrote:  Illinois probably does have more talent.

I agree overall they have more talent. Alot, thats debatable. But if Harnish went to U of I(and was given a chance), would he be the 3 string QB? Would Lynch be 4th string. If so, then the talent level at U of I is far superior to NIU. I don't think it is.

It's hard to say. Harnish was pretty pedestrian his first two years. What happens if he never gets a chance to play? What if he plays and gets pulled? What if he doesn't get to develop on the field his first two years? What if he never sees the field at all? The what if's are impossible to answer.

Harnish was clearly the best QB in the state last year. Clearly. Who knows if he ever would have gotten the chance to show that if he had gone to either school.

(02-02-2012 08:54 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Not that I care about Osei, but my guess is he's regretting going to U of I. He's got Scheelhase and O'Toole ahead of him, so more than likely he'll spend his career there as a backup.

Depends. He may be completely happy and content to be a backup and be a part of the football program while going to school down there. I asked about him last year and the response I got was that he was happy at Illinois.

(02-02-2012 08:55 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 08:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  I agree overall they have more talent. Alot, thats debatable. But if Harnish went to U of I(and was given a chance), would he be the 3 string QB? Would Lynch be 4th string. If so, then the talent level at U of I is far superior to NIU. I don't think it is.

You're limiting it to a single position, and the relative levels of talent are going to be different at different positions.

Was there a single position on offense last year where Illinois was more talented than NIU? And I'm just talking pure talent. I don't think so, that's a horrible mark against Zook. TE and fullback maybe (probably), but NIU had a more talented offense.

Defense it would obviously be a complete 180.

(02-02-2012 08:57 PM)7 Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 08:55 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(02-02-2012 08:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  I agree overall they have more talent. Alot, thats debatable. But if Harnish went to U of I(and was given a chance), would he be the 3 string QB? Would Lynch be 4th string. If so, then the talent level at U of I is far superior to NIU. I don't think it is.

You're limiting it to a single position, and the relative levels of talent are going to be different at different positions.

Was there a single position on offense last year where Illinois was more talented than NIU? And I'm just talking pure talent. I don't think so, that's a horrible mark against Zook. TE and fullback maybe (probably), but NIU had a more talented offense.

Defense it would obviously be a complete 180.

Who was their tight end

The Illness have more talent, they had a coach that could recruit but was terrible in all of the other aspects that are needed to be a successful program.

I think that Beckman will do better. I also agree that right now they are not a lot more talented, NIU is currently the best program in the state and we have fought and clawed our way to that position. We have achieved it by building on a strong foundation and being excellent in all phases of our program.

(02-02-2012 08:56 PM)7 Wrote:  Harnish was clearly the best QB in the state last year. Clearly. Who knows if he ever would have gotten the chance to show that if he had gone to either school.

That's a good point. At Northwestern he wouldn't have started as a freshman/sophomore (they had Bacher and Kafka), and Illinois had Juice as an upperclassmen. Who knows how Harnish does/doesn't develop under those circumstances.