http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/educat...erate-flag

You probably already know my opinion.

Smart kid.

I had a black employee that came to work with a cap that was adorned with the battle flag....Despite his peers giving him sh!t...he stood his ground and wore the hat for almost a year..every day. He simply said that he wore the hat because he loved being a Southerner and he felt it symbolized the spirit of the South...Sounds like a similar situation.

1) Nobody needs anyone's permission to display the Confederate flag. Or the Canadian flag, or whatever other flag you want on your person or personal property.
2) That being said, they must understand that it presents mixed messages. It's a symbol and it means different things to different people. Don't be shocked and set yourself up as some sort of martyr when people don't interpret it the same way as you do.

I grew up in Maryland, a state that did not leave the Union but was internally split between the two sides. In fact, the Maryland flag was adopted after the end of the Civil War, blending the two flags that Marylanders used, one representing Union support, the other representing Confederacy support. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland_flag

In that sense, the Confederate flag represents a time of war and division within America while the Maryland flag represents not only the state which I love, but also Americans' ability to join together despite our differences of opinion or fractured past.

But again, that's just me.

We must reject political correctness; it has been thrust upon us by liberals. Political correctness runs counter to free speech. Ideas and symbols are one of the cornerstones of freedom. Free speech should not be attenuated by political correctness.

(12-02-2011 07:28 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  2) That being said, they must understand that it presents mixed messages. It's a symbol and it means different things to different people. Don't be shocked and set yourself up as some sort of martyr when people don't interpret it the same way as you do.

This.

For probably the majority of people from the South, it does represent a pride for where you are from and what you represent. However, there is a segment of the population that uses it as a symbol of racial separation and racial hatred.

Personally, I'm not against the flag of the South at all and understand it is something that represents pride, but I'm sure that it conjures up memories for some of separate bathrooms, drinking fountains, etc. which would not evoke positive memories at all.

Quote:He said he wants people to thoughtfully consider issues of race and not just knee-jerk reactions to such symbols.

Good luck with that!

(12-02-2011 08:13 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-02-2011 07:28 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  2) That being said, they must understand that it presents mixed messages. It's a symbol and it means different things to different people. Don't be shocked and set yourself up as some sort of martyr when people don't interpret it the same way as you do.

This.

For probably the majority of people from the South, it does represent a pride for where you are from and what you represent. However, there is a segment of the population that uses it as a symbol of racial separation and racial hatred.

Personally, I'm not against the flag of the South at all and understand it something that represents pride, but I'm sure that it conjures up memories for some of separate bathrooms, drinking fountains, etc. which would not evoke positive memories at all.

Yes...I would agree. I much more like the Gadsden.

(12-02-2011 08:13 AM)Crebman Wrote:  For probably the majority of people from the South, it does represent a pride for where you are from and what you represent.

Definitely the minority, not the majority believe that. Red/Yellow/Black/White, most view it as a symbol of racism.

My favorite flag related racist subject is how the GA state flag used to have the battle emblem on it. Of course, everyone pitched a fit. It was eventually replaced by the "first flag of the confederacy". Everyone who complained about the battle flag is ignorant to this.

I think it's safe to say that not every Confederate was a racist. With that in mind, let me ask you guys something: if a Confederate flag represent racism then doesn't it stand to reason that the Koran represents terrorism?

OK libs, shoot me down.

I'm from the South, but my family actually fought for the Union, spent time at Andersonville, and survived the Sultana. Still, I understand the draw of the Confederate flag for some of my fellow Southerners as a symbol of pride for their ancestors that fought so valiantly for it. At the same time, I also understand the millions of others who see it as a symbol of slavery and oppression. Should it be used as an official symbol for governmental institutions? Probably not, but that is up to each state. Should the average citizen be able to display it? Of course. However, that average citizen should always be cognizant that we have freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences. If that affects your business or the associations you have, then that is your own fault.

I was at a Falcons game last year and there was a pickup truck in the parking lot that had a Stars and Bars window sticker that covered the entire back window.

The window was intact before the game but when I passed the truck after the game there was a large hole in the back window

(12-03-2011 07:06 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  I was at a Falcons game last year and there was a pickup truck in the parking lot that had a Stars and Bars window sticker that covered the entire back window.

The window was intact before the game but when I passed the truck after the game there was a large hole in the back window

That's the "consequence" part aTxTiger was commenting about!

I wasn't talking about unlawful activities. However, that is a ****** consequence of living in a world comprised almost entirely of stupid people. They do stupid things in response to our own previous stupid actions. If I park my car in Orange Mound, Memphis at night with 200 bucks in the passenger seat then **** happens. Doesnt excuse the criminal but I was still stupid for allowing it.