(11-03-2011 03:53 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:51 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:40 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Unsourced??? While I can't say that is untrue about this supposed third woman, but the first two were paid off and signed a non-disclose agreement. That certainly qualifies for a source.

Signed a non-disclosure statement? Then how did we find out? What is the source of the facts as we know them?

You don't know what a non-disclosure statement means?

And if Cain would have told the damned truth from the get go this story would have been gone by now.

Kind of like how Obama handled the birther issue? And no I'm not a birther..

That makes ZERO sense. Obama released his BC in 2008 and we're still talking about it. That racist dirtbag Arpaio as well as Perry have brought it up in the last two weeks alone.

Obama was telling the truth. He was born in Hawaii. #56 of the 57 states

He released it in June of 2011. Like i said. They both handled this poorly.

(11-03-2011 03:45 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:43 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Have those Acorn losers ever thought about getting a real job?

Some people have a passion to help others. Others like being pompous asses. It's all a matter of choice.

Are you saying Acorn has a passion for helping others? Really?

Of course they do. Hookers, pimps, gang-bangers, yeah, they're all into helping.

The Brietbart video was discredited long ago when the unedited version was released.

(11-03-2011 04:42 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:45 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:43 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Have those Acorn losers ever thought about getting a real job?

Some people have a passion to help others. Others like being pompous asses. It's all a matter of choice.

Are you saying Acorn has a passion for helping others? Really?

Of course they do. Hookers, pimps, gang-bangers, yeah, they're all into helping.

The Brietbart video was discredited long ago when the unedited version was released.

Correction: They tried to discredit the unedited video but somehow those words kept coming out of their mouthes.

(11-03-2011 04:42 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:45 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:43 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Have those Acorn losers ever thought about getting a real job?

Some people have a passion to help others. Others like being pompous asses. It's all a matter of choice.

Are you saying Acorn has a passion for helping others? Really?

Of course they do. Hookers, pimps, gang-bangers, yeah, they're all into helping.

The Brietbart video was discredited long ago when the unedited version was released.

Repeating the lie over and over does not make it any truer. It just makes you look stupid.

(11-03-2011 02:10 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  What has ACORN ever done other than be the victim of a rightwing smear? They have certainly not been found to have committed any crime aside from the voices in your head.

* Engaged in tax evasion, obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting a cover-up of nearly $1 million embezzled by Dale Rathke, brother of group founder Wade Rathke;

* Committed investment fraud, depriving the public of the right to "honest services," and engaging in a racketeering enterprise affecting interstate commerce;

* Conspired to defraud the United States by using taxpayer dollars for partisan political activities;

* Submitted false filings to the Internal Revenue Service, and the U.S. Department of Labor; and,

* Violated the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act.

But yea what else have they done..

(11-04-2011 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 02:10 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  What has ACORN ever done other than be the victim of a rightwing smear? They have certainly not been found to have committed any crime aside from the voices in your head.

* Engaged in tax evasion, obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting a cover-up of nearly $1 million embezzled by Dale Rathke, brother of group founder Wade Rathke;

* Committed investment fraud, depriving the public of the right to "honest services," and engaging in a racketeering enterprise affecting interstate commerce;

* Conspired to defraud the United States by using taxpayer dollars for partisan political activities;

* Submitted false filings to the Internal Revenue Service, and the U.S. Department of Labor; and,

* Violated the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act.

But yea what else have they done..

Brought peace?

(11-04-2011 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 02:10 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  What has ACORN ever done other than be the victim of a rightwing smear? They have certainly not been found to have committed any crime aside from the voices in your head.

* Engaged in tax evasion, obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting a cover-up of nearly $1 million embezzled by Dale Rathke, brother of group founder Wade Rathke;

* Committed investment fraud, depriving the public of the right to "honest services," and engaging in a racketeering enterprise affecting interstate commerce;

* Conspired to defraud the United States by using taxpayer dollars for partisan political activities;

* Submitted false filings to the Internal Revenue Service, and the U.S. Department of Labor; and,

* Violated the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act.

But yea what else have they done..

Link(s)? Are these "accusations" or something they have been found guilty of?

(11-04-2011 11:23 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 02:10 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  What has ACORN ever done other than be the victim of a rightwing smear? They have certainly not been found to have committed any crime aside from the voices in your head.

* Engaged in tax evasion, obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting a cover-up of nearly $1 million embezzled by Dale Rathke, brother of group founder Wade Rathke;

* Committed investment fraud, depriving the public of the right to "honest services," and engaging in a racketeering enterprise affecting interstate commerce;

* Conspired to defraud the United States by using taxpayer dollars for partisan political activities;

* Submitted false filings to the Internal Revenue Service, and the U.S. Department of Labor; and,

* Violated the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act.

But yea what else have they done..

Link(s)? Are these "accusations" or something they have been found guilty of?

What has Cain been found guilty of?

(11-03-2011 04:52 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 04:42 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:45 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:43 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Some people have a passion to help others. Others like being pompous asses. It's all a matter of choice.

Are you saying Acorn has a passion for helping others? Really?

Of course they do. Hookers, pimps, gang-bangers, yeah, they're all into helping.

The Brietbart video was discredited long ago when the unedited version was released.

Repeating the lie over and over does not make it any truer. It just makes you look stupid.

I've seen the unedited video and you could also if you cared about the truth. This guy never aproached anyone from ACORN in that pimp costume.

(11-04-2011 11:47 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 11:23 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 02:10 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  What has ACORN ever done other than be the victim of a rightwing smear? They have certainly not been found to have committed any crime aside from the voices in your head.

* Engaged in tax evasion, obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting a cover-up of nearly $1 million embezzled by Dale Rathke, brother of group founder Wade Rathke;

* Committed investment fraud, depriving the public of the right to "honest services," and engaging in a racketeering enterprise affecting interstate commerce;

* Conspired to defraud the United States by using taxpayer dollars for partisan political activities;

* Submitted false filings to the Internal Revenue Service, and the U.S. Department of Labor; and,

* Violated the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act.

But yea what else have they done..

Link(s)? Are these "accusations" or something they have been found guilty of?

What has Cain been found guilty of?

Did I ever say he was guilty of anything(other than stupidity)?

(11-04-2011 11:58 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 04:52 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 04:42 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:45 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:43 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Are you saying Acorn has a passion for helping others? Really?

Of course they do. Hookers, pimps, gang-bangers, yeah, they're all into helping.

The Brietbart video was discredited long ago when the unedited version was released.

Repeating the lie over and over does not make it any truer. It just makes you look stupid.

I've seen the unedited video and you could also if you cared about the truth. This guy never aproached anyone from ACORN in that pimp costume.

...but Hannah approached them in her "costume".

(11-04-2011 12:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 11:47 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 11:23 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 02:10 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  What has ACORN ever done other than be the victim of a rightwing smear? They have certainly not been found to have committed any crime aside from the voices in your head.

* Engaged in tax evasion, obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting a cover-up of nearly $1 million embezzled by Dale Rathke, brother of group founder Wade Rathke;

* Committed investment fraud, depriving the public of the right to "honest services," and engaging in a racketeering enterprise affecting interstate commerce;

* Conspired to defraud the United States by using taxpayer dollars for partisan political activities;

* Submitted false filings to the Internal Revenue Service, and the U.S. Department of Labor; and,

* Violated the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act.

But yea what else have they done..

Link(s)? Are these "accusations" or something they have been found guilty of?

What has Cain been found guilty of?

Did I ever say he was guilty of anything(other than stupidity)?

Herman Cain's behavior is not an issue with me although his ignorance is.

Quote:Signed a non-disclosure statement? Then how did we find out? What is the source of the facts as we know them?

The Cain campaign points a finger at a guy who now works for the Perry campaign. Herman disclosed everything to him when he worked for him during his failed Senate bid. They guy knew the hows, whens, and wheres. He was an integral part of his Senate Campaign.

(11-04-2011 12:18 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  Herman Cain's behavior is not an issue with me although his ignorance is.

Ignorance? Maybe he should just ignore everything and let the MSM answer all the questions for him like Obama did.

(11-04-2011 12:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 11:47 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 11:23 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 02:10 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  What has ACORN ever done other than be the victim of a rightwing smear? They have certainly not been found to have committed any crime aside from the voices in your head.

* Engaged in tax evasion, obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting a cover-up of nearly $1 million embezzled by Dale Rathke, brother of group founder Wade Rathke;

* Committed investment fraud, depriving the public of the right to "honest services," and engaging in a racketeering enterprise affecting interstate commerce;

* Conspired to defraud the United States by using taxpayer dollars for partisan political activities;

* Submitted false filings to the Internal Revenue Service, and the U.S. Department of Labor; and,

* Violated the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act.

But yea what else have they done..

Link(s)? Are these "accusations" or something they have been found guilty of?

What has Cain been found guilty of?

Did I ever say he was guilty of anything(other than stupidity)?

My point was that he's being smeared by the left without a conviction, which was the point you raised with the NUT group.

(11-04-2011 11:58 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 04:52 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 04:42 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:45 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:43 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Are you saying Acorn has a passion for helping others? Really?

Of course they do. Hookers, pimps, gang-bangers, yeah, they're all into helping.

The Brietbart video was discredited long ago when the unedited version was released.

Repeating the lie over and over does not make it any truer. It just makes you look stupid.

I've seen the unedited video and you could also if you cared about the truth. This guy never aproached anyone from ACORN in that pimp costume.

I've seen it. gulity.

(11-03-2011 02:10 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  What has ACORN ever done other than be the victim of a rightwing smear? They have certainly not been found to have committed any crime aside from the voices in your head.

Caused the housing crisis and brought the world's largest economy to a standstill?

While this is disputed, there is no doubt at all that they were involved front and center pushing availability of loans to those that are not among the most credit-worthy folks.

(11-03-2011 02:17 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Exactly, then why is it newsworthy?

At least in part, because ACORN is arguably to blame for the same things they accuse Wall Street of being responsible for.

(11-04-2011 01:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 12:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 11:47 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 11:23 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  * Engaged in tax evasion, obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting a cover-up of nearly $1 million embezzled by Dale Rathke, brother of group founder Wade Rathke;

* Committed investment fraud, depriving the public of the right to "honest services," and engaging in a racketeering enterprise affecting interstate commerce;

* Conspired to defraud the United States by using taxpayer dollars for partisan political activities;

* Submitted false filings to the Internal Revenue Service, and the U.S. Department of Labor; and,

* Violated the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act.

But yea what else have they done..

Link(s)? Are these "accusations" or something they have been found guilty of?

What has Cain been found guilty of?

Did I ever say he was guilty of anything(other than stupidity)?

My point was that he's being smeared by the left without a conviction, which was the point you raised with the NUT group.

Why would the left even bother smearing the guy? THe man makes himself look like an idiot all by himself. Someone should remind him China already has nuclear capabilities. THis smear is coming from the right.

(11-04-2011 01:55 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(11-04-2011 11:58 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 04:52 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 04:42 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-03-2011 03:45 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Of course they do. Hookers, pimps, gang-bangers, yeah, they're all into helping.

The Brietbart video was discredited long ago when the unedited version was released.

Repeating the lie over and over does not make it any truer. It just makes you look stupid.

I've seen the unedited video and you could also if you cared about the truth. This guy never aproached anyone from ACORN in that pimp costume.

I've seen it. gulity.

I think you misread his post. He said the UNEDITED video.