And now that names are actually getting credible speed in expansion, suddenly, people are getting agitated.

We were all in the same boat not too long ago. Now a select few are suddenly spiteful about this whole business. Common sense goes a long way.

Tampa, enough us enough please. Looks line you have been invited. Congrats. Now, move along to something else please.

(11-02-2011 08:25 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  And now that names are actually getting credible speed in expansion, suddenly, people are getting agitated.

We were all in the same boat not too long ago. Now a select few are suddenly spiteful about this whole business. Common sense goes a long way.

stop it

Hey congrats but it's not like anyone rose above the rest. SEC and ACC went past 12. Everyone has holes to fill. That's pretty much the beginning and end of it.

You have legislators from Memphis and North Carolina lobbying for their teams to get in the Big East, but they take their anger out on us. Honestly, there is a great group of teams left - so build the league back up. I wish CUSA the best, its been a great ride and has helped UCF immensely.

(11-02-2011 08:25 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  And now that names are actually getting credible speed in expansion, suddenly, people are getting agitated.

We were all in the same boat not too long ago. Now a select few are suddenly spiteful about this whole business. Common sense goes a long way.

In all honesty the Big East is an AQ conference in name only.....It only took an AQ league getting gutted for any of us to have a chance. They were not interested in a damn one of us until they were on life support. Congrats to those who go from CUSA, but lets be clear here....This move was not out of the Big East actually wanting any of us...It was out of an act of desperation to survive so they added schools in large markets to help with TV revenue. Enjoy it while is lasts because we all know teams like UCONN and Louisville will not be there long term.

(11-02-2011 08:36 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(11-02-2011 08:25 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  And now that names are actually getting credible speed in expansion, suddenly, people are getting agitated.

We were all in the same boat not too long ago. Now a select few are suddenly spiteful about this whole business. Common sense goes a long way.

In all honesty the Big East is an AQ conference in name only.....It only took an AQ league getting gutted for any of us to have a chance. They were not interested in a damn one of us until they were on life support. Congrats to those who go from CUSA, but lets be clear here....This move was not out of the Big East actually wanting any of us...It was out of an act of desperation to survive so they added schools in large markets to help with TV revenue. Enjoy it while is lasts because we all know teams like UCONN and Louisville will not be there long term.

+1

This is one of my huge gripes if we accept an invitation in this situation. This is not the Big East I think the presidents had imagined joining. In fact, long-term finances favor Mount USA in future expansion raids. Ease of scheduling, consolidation and increase in SOS, television broadcasts become multi-regional...

I see Mount USA being successful. Question is: do the schools that are considering exiting also see the potential?

(11-02-2011 08:34 PM)UCFL Wrote:  You have legislators from Memphis and North Carolina lobbying for their teams to get in the Big East, but they take their anger out on us. Honestly, there is a great group of teams left - so build the league back up. I wish CUSA the best, its been a great ride and has helped UCF immensely.

Maybe if you guys would just stop talking about it the tone on this board may get back to a civil level. Just ignore any attacks and it will go away.

Well there may be a few less "agitated" fans if a certain school that has most likely gotten an invite wasn't 4-47 against the BCS-AQ schools that is about to join.
Make no mistake, those fans are upset because they didn't get an invite, they are upset and "agitated" with the system that rewards a school for its market and not its football history. Yes I'm speaking about UCF. There is not a single thing that UCF can point to that it has accomplished on the field that says "we've earned a BCS-AQ spot".
Since the OP is a mod, I would think that it should go without saying that this belongs on the conference realignment board and not in the CUSA board.

(11-02-2011 08:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Well there may be a few less "agitated" fans if a certain school that has most likely gotten an invite wasn't 4-47 against the BCS-AQ schools that is about to join.
Make no mistake, those fans are upset because they didn't get an invite, they are upset and "agitated" with the system that rewards a school for its market and not its football history. Yes I'm speaking about UCF. There is not a single thing that UCF can point to that it has accomplished on the field that says "we've earned a BCS-AQ spot".
Since the OP is a mod, I would think that it should go without saying that this belongs on the conference realignment board and not in the CUSA board.

You are right, if it isn't transfered to realignment board, it should be locked until a decision can be made.

Since being in CUSA, UCF has won the East three times, has won the CUSA conference championship twice, and has won the Liberty Bowl against an SEC team. We also finished the season ranked in the final BCS standings, and have a BCS point. We proved ourselves on the field. We may not have "history" but we have not been playing football long.

Those accomplishments collaborate with our top of the line facilities and large student body. Our location being in the state of Florida in Orlando also helped.

(11-02-2011 08:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Well there may be a few less "agitated" fans if a certain school that has most likely gotten an invite wasn't 4-47 against the BCS-AQ schools that is about to join.
Make no mistake, those fans are upset because they didn't get an invite, they are upset and "agitated" with the system that rewards a school for its market and not its football history. Yes I'm speaking about UCF. There is not a single thing that UCF can point to that it has accomplished on the field that says "we've earned a BCS-AQ spot".
Since the OP is a mod, I would think that it should go without saying that this belongs on the conference realignment board and not in the CUSA board.

My target audience was CUSABBS, not Big East/MWC/MAC/Sun Belt/WAC/IAA fans.

And I get it, and I wholeheartedly believe Southern Miss and East Carolina are far more deserving for their on-field success. Money is the root of ALL evil, all evil.

In fairness, though, we would have a VERY VERY nice record against current SEC programs if we had taken it to Alabama, Auburn and UF when we had our chances.

Regardless, it is criminal what is going on, and I just wanted to reflect that thought.

(11-02-2011 08:39 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  

(11-02-2011 08:36 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(11-02-2011 08:25 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  And now that names are actually getting credible speed in expansion, suddenly, people are getting agitated.

We were all in the same boat not too long ago. Now a select few are suddenly spiteful about this whole business. Common sense goes a long way.

In all honesty the Big East is an AQ conference in name only.....It only took an AQ league getting gutted for any of us to have a chance. They were not interested in a damn one of us until they were on life support. Congrats to those who go from CUSA, but lets be clear here....This move was not out of the Big East actually wanting any of us...It was out of an act of desperation to survive so they added schools in large markets to help with TV revenue. Enjoy it while is lasts because we all know teams like UCONN and Louisville will not be there long term.

+1

This is one of my huge gripes if we accept an invitation in this situation. This is not the Big East I think the presidents had imagined joining. In fact, long-term finances favor Mount USA in future expansion raids. Ease of scheduling, consolidation and increase in SOS, television broadcasts become multi-regional...

I see Mount USA being successful. Question is: do the schools that are considering exiting also see the potential?

Hell, any team from CUSA would be crazy to turn down the chance to join the Big East. It is still a step up from a preception and revenue standpoint. Maybe things will stabilize for several years, long enough for some of the new schools to establish themselves on a national level so that when teams like Louisville and UCONN leave you guys can add a couple of other schools and retain your AQ status.

I am mad as hell about not being included but my anger is with the Big East and not the schools they selected...The bottom line for ECU is our rural markets kills us. For us to ever be considered we will have to go on some sort of run like Boise St or TCU did so we can overcome our lack of market. I understand why the Big East made the moves that they did but it still sucks from an ECU perspective. I just hope it does not kill the enthusiasm our fans have for our program. There is a lot of hurt and frustration in the Pirate nation right now.

(11-02-2011 08:44 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  My target audience was CUSABBS, not Big East/MWC/MAC/Sun Belt/WAC/IAA fans.

And I get it, and I wholeheartedly believe Southern Miss and East Carolina are far more deserving for their on-field success. Money is the root of ALL evil, all evil.

In fairness, though, we would have a VERY VERY nice record against current SEC programs if we had taken it to Alabama, Auburn and UF when we had our chances.

Regardless, it is criminal what is going on, and I just wanted to reflect that thought.

Oh yes... every team would be undefeated if they hadn't lost...

Didn't think it was that big a problem, but I'll move this to the expansion board...although this has little to do with other conferences.

(11-02-2011 08:44 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Since being in CUSA, UCF has won the East three times, has won the CUSA conference championship twice, and has won the Liberty Bowl against an SEC team. We also finished the season ranked in the final BCS standings, and have a BCS point. We proved ourselves on the field. We may not have "history" but we have not been playing football long.

Those accomplishments collaborate with our top of the line facilities and large student body. Our location being in the state of Florida in Orlando also helped.

Dude, let it go....Why do you feel the need to justify why you were selected. We all know the reason you were selected and it has nothing to do with the 2 CUSA Championships or your Liberty Bowl win. As long as you guys did not suck as bad as Memphis has of late you would have been selected even without the 2 CUSA Championships or your one bowl win. Heck, if Memphis would have not tanked so bad in football as of late they would have been included as well. If they could have maintained minimal success, like at least .500 or slightly better seasons in football they would be joining with you guys.

(11-02-2011 08:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Well there may be a few less "agitated" fans if a certain school that has most likely gotten an invite wasn't 4-47 against the BCS-AQ schools that is about to join.
Make no mistake, those fans are upset because they didn't get an invite, they are upset and "agitated" with the system that rewards a school for its market and not its football history. Yes I'm speaking about UCF. There is not a single thing that UCF can point to that it has accomplished on the field that says "we've earned a BCS-AQ spot".
Since the OP is a mod, I would think that it should go without saying that this belongs on the conference realignment board and not in the CUSA board.

What an ignorant comment. Not like it matters when you factor in all the other reasons for expansion, but how about finishing ranked in all major polls? First and only team of this "generation" to beat an SEC team in the liberty bowl?

Please...

(11-02-2011 08:53 PM)the1sttransport Wrote:  

(11-02-2011 08:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Well there may be a few less "agitated" fans if a certain school that has most likely gotten an invite wasn't 4-47 against the BCS-AQ schools that is about to join.
Make no mistake, those fans are upset because they didn't get an invite, they are upset and "agitated" with the system that rewards a school for its market and not its football history. Yes I'm speaking about UCF. There is not a single thing that UCF can point to that it has accomplished on the field that says "we've earned a BCS-AQ spot".
Since the OP is a mod, I would think that it should go without saying that this belongs on the conference realignment board and not in the CUSA board.

What an ignorant comment. Not like it matters when you factor in all the other reasons for expansion, but how about finishing ranked in all major polls? First and only team of this "generation" to beat an SEC team in the liberty bowl?

Please...

Perhaps you missed this part..... 4-47. Every team wins a few. (Few being the key word there.) Market and market alone got UCF the call.

I haven't seen a BE announcement that new teams are joining the conference. So why are CUSA fans fighting?

It's funny how everyone is so nice an happy until things change. Sometimes change can be good and sometimes it can be bad. But regardless, when things change, they become different than they were. Know what I mean?

(11-02-2011 09:01 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-02-2011 08:53 PM)the1sttransport Wrote:  

(11-02-2011 08:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Well there may be a few less "agitated" fans if a certain school that has most likely gotten an invite wasn't 4-47 against the BCS-AQ schools that is about to join.
Make no mistake, those fans are upset because they didn't get an invite, they are upset and "agitated" with the system that rewards a school for its market and not its football history. Yes I'm speaking about UCF. There is not a single thing that UCF can point to that it has accomplished on the field that says "we've earned a BCS-AQ spot".
Since the OP is a mod, I would think that it should go without saying that this belongs on the conference realignment board and not in the CUSA board.

What an ignorant comment. Not like it matters when you factor in all the other reasons for expansion, but how about finishing ranked in all major polls? First and only team of this "generation" to beat an SEC team in the liberty bowl?

Please...

Perhaps you missed this part..... 4-47. Every team wins a few. (Few being the key word there.) Market and market alone got UCF the call.

Not everyone measures success the same way. Sometimes people prefer a different kind of success.