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RE: Don't tell them how to get to Sesame Street!!!
(08-12-2011 06:03 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  To all those aligned to the GAY AGENDA, a statement from the producers of Sesame Street.

They're puppets STUPID!!! AND the characters the represent are just friends. There will be no marrige for Bert & Ernie.

IMO, until there are lawsuits and boycotts by the GAY AGENDA, they will force this issue yet.


Damn...I was wondering which one was the top or bottom puppet. My vote was for Bert to be the bottom and wear that gown at the wedding.03-lmfao
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(08-12-2011 03:43 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963



Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Yea thats why Fidel Castro and the Soviet Union demonized and imprisoned persons, simply because they were Gay.

So you've got some one term nobody Congressman reading into the record a speech (probably in front of an empty house) the screed of a racist Mormon bircher 48 years ago. And yes. I can back up racist, Mormon, and bircher about Cleon Skousen. Mr. Skousen also had a penchant for having his supporters burn crosses on the lawns of those that he wished to intimidate (also got back up for that too). By the way the Naked Communist has links in sourcing to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which is considered the most anti-Semitic book ever to reach major publication.

By the way, the Skousen and his research, demenor, views, and scolastic 'credentials' are considered so extreme that...

1) The leadership of the LDS Church actually banned his works from their wardhouses and directed its Bishops to discourage his works. That was when the LDS church still thought Blacks were ineligible for membership and was excommunciating members for publically supporting the Equal Rights Amendment.
2) William Buckley and the National Review both condemned him
3) Even the Birchers started to move away from him.

I do understand that certain very extreme dominionists (those that advocate for a theocracy) like Glenn Beck (who got so bad that Fox News had to let him go (!)) and David Barton (who believes the Earth is 5000 or so years old do use his 'works' as part of their 'informed' worldview.

You are free to post Bircher/Dominionist drivel. But you should consider the source as your credibility will be questioned.
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Rebel, Might I ask where did you get your 'education'? I'm assuming since we are on a ncaa bbs that people in here would have actually graduated from some institute of higher learning. Seriously, where are you going to find the next source of your beliefs....let me guess...Scott Lively?

For the record, I hold degrees from George Washington, South Alabama, and Washington University in St Louis.
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(08-11-2011 10:09 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  
(08-11-2011 08:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you stance on shoving the gay agenda down the throats of 3 year olds would be?

It's no different than shoving your Christian agenda down a 3 year olds throat. 03-wink

(See, that works on any group.)

So why is it discrimination to push an anti-gay or pro-straight agenda down a 3 year olds throat?
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(08-12-2011 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 02:01 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 01:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Teaching children about Harvey Milk is teaching them about California history. The California bill only mandates that relevant LGBT persons be represented in middle and high school classes as part of history lessons.

And when the fundamentalists keep their faith in their church, then they can ask others to keep their beliefs in their homes.

Bullsh!t on stilts. It is indoctrination. Tell me what of historical significance did Harvey Milk do? Other than his gayness, he is insignificant, except to gays.

There is a whole lot more going on out there regarding school policies than the Harvey Milk issue and you know it. The entire effort is to get to kids early and convince them that all kinds of out-of-the-norm sexual behavior is totally normal. They want and strive to silence any dissent from parents and others and even go so far as to not let parents know just exactly WHAT is being taught to their children.

That is evil. You know that.


Harvey Milk, the first openly Gay elected official of any consequence on planet earth, led a movement to teach Gays themselves that they could be proud of who they are. He led the first successful Gay ballot fight (against the Briggs Amendment). He was assasinated by a right wing, Christian politician. His murderer received 3 years in prison for killing him.

He was the most significant politician in the last 50 years in California's second largest city.

He is as significant to today's political discourse as Cesar Chavez or any of the Religous Right are.

You can teach your kids that Gays are filthy disgusting creatures and lie to them about us at home. Not at school. At least not in California.

Good spin. Milk was killed by a former city supervisor who had suffered discrimination because he didn't properly blend into his city's ethnic flavor. Where's his ******* movie?
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(08-12-2011 03:06 PM)Rebel Wrote:  McCarthy was a great patriot who was COMPLETELY vindicated.

By whom? The John Birch Society? David Barton? Roy Cohn?

For the record, Joe McCarthy was an alcoholic, a liar (about many things including his war record), corrupt (Pepsi),an influence peddler, a violent thug who assaulted reporters, and a charlatan who engaged in deception and fraud.

The 'vindication' you speak of probably results from the Verona documents which showed that exactly 9 of the 159 persons attacked by McCarthy had ties to the Soviet Union. Ann Coulter (who is a writer of sensationalist opinion - not a historian) and a few old school (e.g., supporters of a white only Mormon Church) LDSers/ dominionists/birchers have attempted to rehabilitate him, but his record of lying and misuse of office is so obvious that the vast majority of conservative republicans continue to condemn him.

He lobbied for the commutation of the sentences of SS War Criminals who murdered US POWs at Malmedy. Why?

Name one NON-POLITICAL historian that is willing to say that Joe McCarthy should not have been censured or is undeserving of his reputation today.
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(08-12-2011 09:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 02:01 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 01:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Teaching children about Harvey Milk is teaching them about California history. The California bill only mandates that relevant LGBT persons be represented in middle and high school classes as part of history lessons.

And when the fundamentalists keep their faith in their church, then they can ask others to keep their beliefs in their homes.

Bullsh!t on stilts. It is indoctrination. Tell me what of historical significance did Harvey Milk do? Other than his gayness, he is insignificant, except to gays.

There is a whole lot more going on out there regarding school policies than the Harvey Milk issue and you know it. The entire effort is to get to kids early and convince them that all kinds of out-of-the-norm sexual behavior is totally normal. They want and strive to silence any dissent from parents and others and even go so far as to not let parents know just exactly WHAT is being taught to their children.

That is evil. You know that.


Harvey Milk, the first openly Gay elected official of any consequence on planet earth, led a movement to teach Gays themselves that they could be proud of who they are. He led the first successful Gay ballot fight (against the Briggs Amendment). He was assasinated by a right wing, Christian politician. His murderer received 3 years in prison for killing him.

He was the most significant politician in the last 50 years in California's second largest city.

He is as significant to today's political discourse as Cesar Chavez or any of the Religous Right are.

You can teach your kids that Gays are filthy disgusting creatures and lie to them about us at home. Not at school. At least not in California.

Good spin. Milk was killed by a former city supervisor who had suffered discrimination because he didn't properly blend into his city's ethnic flavor. Where's his ******* movie?

Exactly how was Dan White discriminated against? Back it up. Because he got 3 years in jail for the premeditated assasination of the Mayor of San Francisco and Harvey Milk? Because Moscone and Milk refused to appoint the disruptive Dan White back onto the Board of Supervisors after he resigned?

Please...try to defend the assertion that Dan White was a victim of discrimination...03-lmfao
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(08-12-2011 03:03 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 02:38 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lets teach about the contributions of all of our communities.

Tom Wrote:The One Nation under God language was inserted in the Pledge of Allegiance...in the 1950's as part of the McCathyist nightmare. It used to read... One Nation, Indivisible...

So which do you want Tom, one nation, or separate communities?

Your inconsistency is telling.

One nation indivisible because there is justice for ALL. While there is injustice for some, there will be separate communities.

Why is being black or gay or hispanic or a working woman etc. make you a minority while being left handed really doesn't?

Because minorities are created by discrimination by the majority. Separate cultures are created in order to create understanding and a forum for grievances in the face of an uncaring or hostile majority. People don't argue that persons who are left handed are cursed by God and don't advocate discrimination in public policy for left handed persons. Therefore, its' not percieved to be much of a big deal.

If you wish that there weren't minority communities, then I say this to the white, male, straight, Christian community....stop creating them through your discrimination.
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So you don't like American patriots. No surprise.
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(08-12-2011 09:18 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(08-11-2011 10:09 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  
(08-11-2011 08:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you stance on shoving the gay agenda down the throats of 3 year olds would be?

It's no different than shoving your Christian agenda down a 3 year olds throat. 03-wink

(See, that works on any group.)

So why is it discrimination to push an anti-gay or pro-straight agenda down a 3 year olds throat?

Because it is wrong to teach people to demean or discriminate against others. Because unfortunately, if you push that anti-Gay agenda down people's throats, they end up beating up Gay people on the streets of El Paso (just like that incident two months ago outside the Old Plantation Bar).
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(08-12-2011 09:50 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you don't like American patriots. No surprise.

What American Patriot do you presume I don't like? Joe McCarthy was not an American patriot. He defiled patriotism by reducing it to a witch hunt in an attempt to gain political power for himself. He defiled it by using lies to demean others. He cheapened the Senate with his presence.

I am a patriotic American. But patriotism isn't about worshipping Jesus. Last time I checked, Jesus wasn't an American. Patriotism isn't about being white. Patriotism isn't about being straight. Patriotism isn't about being male.

Patriotism is about making this country the best it can be. Through our system of government, using truth and reason. Not by using lies and bullying (or hostage taking).

Please, define who you think is a patriot and I'll let you know how I feel this person is or is not a patriot.
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(08-12-2011 01:58 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Not cheerleading...but not helping. Why would I help someone who won't help themself? All of this is irrelevant. This country votes its laws and when put to a vote the VAST MAJORITY vote not to legalize gay marriage. These militant homo's only make things worse.

When can I vote on your marriages?

And yes, you are making political capital on the deaths of persons from AIDS. So you profit from it. You'd rather have millions die than attempt reasonable mitigation strategies. Such a great Christian. 05-nono
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(08-12-2011 09:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:18 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(08-11-2011 10:09 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  
(08-11-2011 08:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you stance on shoving the gay agenda down the throats of 3 year olds would be?

It's no different than shoving your Christian agenda down a 3 year olds throat. 03-wink

(See, that works on any group.)

So why is it discrimination to push an anti-gay or pro-straight agenda down a 3 year olds throat?

Because it is wrong to teach people to demean or discriminate against others. Because unfortunately, if you push that anti-Gay agenda down people's throats, they end up beating up Gay people on the streets of El Paso (just like that incident two months ago outside the Old Plantation Bar).



I guess we should stop pushing the anti-pedophilia agenda. The anti-necrophilia agenda. Anti-bestiality agenda. Don't want to demean or discriminate against others. Or do you really mean just your own preferred form of sexual deviance?
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(08-12-2011 10:03 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:50 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you don't like American patriots. No surprise.

What American Patriot do you presume I don't like? Joe McCarthy was not an American patriot. He defiled patriotism by reducing it to a witch hunt in an attempt to gain political power for himself. He defiled it by using lies to demean others. He cheapened the Senate with his presence.

I am a patriotic American. But patriotism isn't about worshipping Jesus. Last time I checked, Jesus wasn't an American. Patriotism isn't about being white. Patriotism isn't about being straight. Patriotism isn't about being male.

Patriotism is about making this country the best it can be. Through our system of government, using truth and reason. Not by using lies and bullying (or hostage taking).

Please, define who you think is a patriot and I'll let you know how I feel this person is or is not a patriot.

I fully agree..Patriotism is not about a how one is...but about how one acts. cudos.04-cheers
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(08-12-2011 10:08 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:18 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(08-11-2011 10:09 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  
(08-11-2011 08:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you stance on shoving the gay agenda down the throats of 3 year olds would be?

It's no different than shoving your Christian agenda down a 3 year olds throat. 03-wink

(See, that works on any group.)

So why is it discrimination to push an anti-gay or pro-straight agenda down a 3 year olds throat?

Because it is wrong to teach people to demean or discriminate against others. Because unfortunately, if you push that anti-Gay agenda down people's throats, they end up beating up Gay people on the streets of El Paso (just like that incident two months ago outside the Old Plantation Bar).



I guess we should stop pushing the anti-pedophilia agenda. The anti-necrophilia agenda. Anti-bestiality agenda. Don't want to demean or discriminate against others. Or do you really mean just your own preferred form of sexual deviance?


Oh dear god...(sigh)...you have no argument so you imply that Gays are like those that rape children have sex with dead people or screw animals??? Really, is that the best you can come up with???

(For the 1,000,000,000th time)....children cannot consent. Neither can dead people or animals. That's why Gay rights are different than child molester rights or necrophilia rights or man on dog rights.

If you wish to base your argument that Gay people should be treated as if they all rape children or have sex with dogs, you are free to do so... But I caution you to look at the example of former US Senator Rick Santorum, who attempted to do the same. He lost all credibility, created a new word for sexual detrius, and lost his Senate seat by 17 points largely as a result of his credibility gap.
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That would include McCarthy. F'n leftest who would side with our enemies against us are NOT patriots.
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(08-12-2011 10:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 10:08 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:18 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(08-11-2011 10:09 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  It's no different than shoving your Christian agenda down a 3 year olds throat. 03-wink

(See, that works on any group.)

So why is it discrimination to push an anti-gay or pro-straight agenda down a 3 year olds throat?

Because it is wrong to teach people to demean or discriminate against others. Because unfortunately, if you push that anti-Gay agenda down people's throats, they end up beating up Gay people on the streets of El Paso (just like that incident two months ago outside the Old Plantation Bar).



I guess we should stop pushing the anti-pedophilia agenda. The anti-necrophilia agenda. Anti-bestiality agenda. Don't want to demean or discriminate against others. Or do you really mean just your own preferred form of sexual deviance?


Oh dear god...(sigh)...you have no argument so you imply that Gays are like those that rape children have sex with dead people or screw animals??? Really, is that the best you can come up with???

(For the 1,000,000,000th time)....children cannot consent. Neither can dead people or animals. That's why Gay rights are different than child molester rights or necrophilia rights or man on dog rights.

If you wish to base your argument that Gay people should be treated as if they all rape children or have sex with dogs, you are free to do so... But I caution you to look at the example of former US Senator Rick Santorum, who attempted to do the same. He lost all credibility, created a new word for sexual detrius, and lost his Senate seat by 17 points largely as a result of his credibility gap.

As I suspected, you mean only non discrimination and special recognition for your group.

When two men can desecrate marriage, I simply will have no argument nor will I care if a man marries six women. Truth, I have far less opposition to that anyway.
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(08-12-2011 10:36 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 10:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 10:08 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:18 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  So why is it discrimination to push an anti-gay or pro-straight agenda down a 3 year olds throat?

Because it is wrong to teach people to demean or discriminate against others. Because unfortunately, if you push that anti-Gay agenda down people's throats, they end up beating up Gay people on the streets of El Paso (just like that incident two months ago outside the Old Plantation Bar).



I guess we should stop pushing the anti-pedophilia agenda. The anti-necrophilia agenda. Anti-bestiality agenda. Don't want to demean or discriminate against others. Or do you really mean just your own preferred form of sexual deviance?


Oh dear god...(sigh)...you have no argument so you imply that Gays are like those that rape children have sex with dead people or screw animals??? Really, is that the best you can come up with???

(For the 1,000,000,000th time)....children cannot consent. Neither can dead people or animals. That's why Gay rights are different than child molester rights or necrophilia rights or man on dog rights.

If you wish to base your argument that Gay people should be treated as if they all rape children or have sex with dogs, you are free to do so... But I caution you to look at the example of former US Senator Rick Santorum, who attempted to do the same. He lost all credibility, created a new word for sexual detrius, and lost his Senate seat by 17 points largely as a result of his credibility gap.

As I suspected, you mean only non discrimination and special recognition for your group.

When two men can desecrate marriage, I simply will have no argument nor will I care if a man marries six women. Truth, I have far less opposition to that anyway.

Sorry Paul.....I have to agree with Tom on his above point about "consent"....everything after that is moot and becomes an actual crime. There is no crime in consenting adults doing a damn thing with each other as far as I am concerned. I don't have to approve...I just have to allow them to live their lives and do whatever they wish under the caveat of the principle of non aggression....You are certainly free to disagree.
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RE: Don't tell them how to get to Sesame Street!!!
(08-12-2011 10:36 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 10:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 10:08 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-12-2011 09:18 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  So why is it discrimination to push an anti-gay or pro-straight agenda down a 3 year olds throat?

Because it is wrong to teach people to demean or discriminate against others. Because unfortunately, if you push that anti-Gay agenda down people's throats, they end up beating up Gay people on the streets of El Paso (just like that incident two months ago outside the Old Plantation Bar).



I guess we should stop pushing the anti-pedophilia agenda. The anti-necrophilia agenda. Anti-bestiality agenda. Don't want to demean or discriminate against others. Or do you really mean just your own preferred form of sexual deviance?


Oh dear god...(sigh)...you have no argument so you imply that Gays are like those that rape children have sex with dead people or screw animals??? Really, is that the best you can come up with???

(For the 1,000,000,000th time)....children cannot consent. Neither can dead people or animals. That's why Gay rights are different than child molester rights or necrophilia rights or man on dog rights.

If you wish to base your argument that Gay people should be treated as if they all rape children or have sex with dogs, you are free to do so... But I caution you to look at the example of former US Senator Rick Santorum, who attempted to do the same. He lost all credibility, created a new word for sexual detrius, and lost his Senate seat by 17 points largely as a result of his credibility gap.

As I suspected, you mean only non discrimination and special recognition for your group.

When two men can desecrate marriage, I simply will have no argument nor will I care if a man marries six women. Truth, I have far less opposition to that anyway.

Oh..actually I support the current legislation that says that I cannot fire someone because they are an evangelical. We simply wish for legislation that says that an evangelical cannot fire someone because they are Gay.

There is no special recognition requested. So long as two unrelated adult persons who are infertile can marry, then we demand that that they stop the silly requirement that they have opposing genitals. Its just equality. Nothing more...nothing less.

You are welcome to advocate for polygamy if you so desire. But its not particularly related to the issue of marriage equality. Its a straw man argument and you should know it.

So I guess in your world, you'd have less of a problem with two men being married if there was a woman also included the marriage somewhere?

I'm really confused by your argument...no wait...its just based on irrational bias against Gay persons. Never mind. Your argument makes perfect sense given your basis of reasoning.
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(08-12-2011 10:21 PM)Paul M Wrote:  That would include McCarthy. F'n leftest who would side with our enemies against us are NOT patriots.

Ok.. So I've already given you many points based upon facts as to why I think Joe McCarthy was not a patriot.

Anyone else you'd like to hold up as a patriot?

Whom do you presume is siding with our enemies? Can you be a bit more specific than some F'n leftest (sic)?
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