The hell? Mach, do try to drown out the voices in your head.

Quote:I'm saying it "may" be a small small part of the puzzle and even THAT is up for debate.

Um, let's recap.

You stated:

Quote:Machiavelli Wrote:
for constantly beating a drumb...................... it should be very easy for you to find a couple of posts where I said this..................... Again hyperbole........ not uncommon for you.

So in the posting of this thread you weren't really arguing waterboarding had nothing to do with getting the intel that lead us to UBL? And you're going to stick with that story in spite of me posting your comments of:

Quote:Nabbing Bin Laden has as much to do with water boarding as Iraq had to 9-11. Won't stop certain people from trying though.

and

Quote:To me it's beyond moronic to conjure that this information was possible because of waterboarding. It's just plain stupid, but that hasn't stop you guys before.

Um....ok.

It's ok mach. No one likes to be so resoundingly humiliated in such a public fashion. The key is to take it like a man and not dig the hole deeper. So far you're not following that path. It's not too late though.

Yes,


Using the killing of UBL to justify waterboarding is moronic in my mind. IF........ IF there is any link between the two. Let's say I even give you that nugget. (EVEN THOUGH IT"S HIGHLY DEBATEALE)It's about 1/10th of 1%. Dude, even Rumsfeld said the Info didn't come from waterboarding. Crown yourself the King of Fools.

Current CIA Director Leon Panetta

Quote:“We had multiple series of sources that provided information with regards to this situation… clearly some of it came from detainees [and] they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of those detainees,” he told NBC anchor Brian Williams.

When asked by Williams if water-boarding was part of the “enhanced interrogation techniques,” Panetta simply said “that’s correct.”

Keep digging mach. Your anguish sustains me.

I'll bow out now and just enjoy your continued insane rants.

You do realize for every quote you can come up with I can come up with a counter quote.

Here's a nugget for you and your court jesters King.

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through “normal interrogation approaches” and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a “myth.”



Someone's digging a hole. I'll bow out now. Tired of being Owned and Dominated and all.

(05-04-2011 10:00 AM)Rebel Wrote:  The hell? Mach, do try to drown out the voices in your head.

That's exactly how these conversations go completely off the rails...

(05-04-2011 10:24 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You do realize for every quote you can come up with I can come up with a counter quote.

Here's a nugget for you and your court jesters King.

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through “normal interrogation approaches” and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a “myth.”



Someone's digging a hole. I'll bow out now. Tired of being Owned and Dominated and all.

Try reading comprhension. You might like it.

"at Guantanamo Bay" is the key element. And, the article says not waterboarded by DOD. It doesn't say he wasn't waterboarded elsewhere or by CIA.

Try again.

(05-04-2011 10:15 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yes,


Using the killing of UBL to justify waterboarding is moronic in my mind. IF........ IF there is any link between the two. Let's say I even give you that nugget. (EVEN THOUGH IT"S HIGHLY DEBATEALE)It's about 1/10th of 1%. Dude, even Rumsfeld said the Info didn't come from waterboarding. Crown yourself the King of Fools.

(05-04-2011 10:24 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You do realize for every quote you can come up with I can come up with a counter quote.

Here's a nugget for you and your court jesters King.

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through “normal interrogation approaches” and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a “myth.”

You might try actually listening to Rummy.

Last night.

Quote: I think that anyone who suggests that the enhanced techniques, let's be blunt, waterboarding did not produce an enormous amount of valuable intelligence just isn't facing the truth.

I'm told there was some confusion today on some programs, even one on Fox I think, suggesting that I indicated that no one who was waterboarded at Gitmo provided any information on this. That's just not true. What I said was no one was waterboarded at Gitmo by the US military. In fact no one was waterboarded at Gitmo period. 3 people were waterboarded by the CIA away from Gitmo and then later brought to Gitmo. And in fact as you pointed out, the info that came from those individuals was critically important.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4675467/donal...t_id=87937

(05-04-2011 10:24 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Someone's digging a hole. I'll bow out now. Tired of being Owned and Dominated and all.

You were saying.

Mach?

Don't worry Paul, he can counter you quote for quote. Just because he hasn't doesn't mean anything.

(05-06-2011 10:50 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Don't worry Paul, he can counter you quote for quote. Just because he hasn't doesn't mean anything.

Forget Mach. Mr. Peanut knows everything is wrong in this thread, even w/o reading it.

Consider yourselves fortunate he (He?) even commented on it.