We all Obama has behaved exactly 180 degrees from what he has preached
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Oba...raq_Speech
prior to being President, increasing the War in Afghanistan, attacking Lybia (but not other Middle East Dictatorships? strange, Lybia is not threat to the USA), not only keeping Gitmo open for business but continuing secret military trials down there also.

The above is in some respects just a small sample (won't go into the Lobbyist reforms that were supposed to happen, and all of the other stuff.

So did Liberals just want to get their own guy in office or are Liberals generally disappointed or disgusted with Obama's behavior?

The Liberals had a choice between Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin.

Need I say more?

(03-31-2011 12:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The Liberals had a choice between Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin.

Need I say more?

You could try answering the question. Or not post some red-herring of a response.

(03-31-2011 12:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The Liberals had a choice between Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin.

Need I say more?

If you are a liberal or if you voted for Obama, feel free to answer my question.

(03-31-2011 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  We all Obama has behaved exactly 180 degrees from what he has preached
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Oba...raq_Speech
prior to being President, increasing the War in Afghanistan, attacking Lybia (but not other Middle East Dictatorships? strange, Lybia is not threat to the USA), not only keeping Gitmo open for business but continuing secret military trials down there also.

The above is in some respects just a small sample (won't go into the Lobbyist reforms that were supposed to happen, and all of the other stuff.

So did Liberals just want to get their own guy in office or are Liberals generally disappointed or disgusted with Obama's behavior?

THank you for admitting you listen/watch only rightwing sources. If you listened or watched anything from the other side you would know the answer to that.

(03-31-2011 01:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  We all Obama has behaved exactly 180 degrees from what he has preached
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Oba...raq_Speech
prior to being President, increasing the War in Afghanistan, attacking Lybia (but not other Middle East Dictatorships? strange, Lybia is not threat to the USA), not only keeping Gitmo open for business but continuing secret military trials down there also.

The above is in some respects just a small sample (won't go into the Lobbyist reforms that were supposed to happen, and all of the other stuff.

So did Liberals just want to get their own guy in office or are Liberals generally disappointed or disgusted with Obama's behavior?

THank you for admitting you listen/watch only rightwing sources. If you listened or watched anything from the other side you would know the answer to that.

The question is for Liberals on this board not pundits on TV.

(03-31-2011 01:16 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 01:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  We all Obama has behaved exactly 180 degrees from what he has preached
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Oba...raq_Speech
prior to being President, increasing the War in Afghanistan, attacking Lybia (but not other Middle East Dictatorships? strange, Lybia is not threat to the USA), not only keeping Gitmo open for business but continuing secret military trials down there also.

The above is in some respects just a small sample (won't go into the Lobbyist reforms that were supposed to happen, and all of the other stuff.

So did Liberals just want to get their own guy in office or are Liberals generally disappointed or disgusted with Obama's behavior?

THank you for admitting you listen/watch only rightwing sources. If you listened or watched anything from the other side you would know the answer to that.

The question is for Liberals on this board not pundits on TV.

Ok, if you don't believe the pundits, then listen to liberal talk radio for what the callers have to say. WCPT is on-line is you are interested in broadening your horizons(which I suspect you aren't).

(03-31-2011 01:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 01:16 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 01:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  We all Obama has behaved exactly 180 degrees from what he has preached
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Oba...raq_Speech
prior to being President, increasing the War in Afghanistan, attacking Lybia (but not other Middle East Dictatorships? strange, Lybia is not threat to the USA), not only keeping Gitmo open for business but continuing secret military trials down there also.

The above is in some respects just a small sample (won't go into the Lobbyist reforms that were supposed to happen, and all of the other stuff.

So did Liberals just want to get their own guy in office or are Liberals generally disappointed or disgusted with Obama's behavior?

THank you for admitting you listen/watch only rightwing sources. If you listened or watched anything from the other side you would know the answer to that.

The question is for Liberals on this board not pundits on TV.

Ok, if you don't believe the pundits, then listen to liberal talk radio for what the callers have to say. WCPT is on-line is you are interested in broadening your horizons(which I suspect you aren't).

Are there no liberals here who can answer the question?

(03-31-2011 12:12 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 12:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The Liberals had a choice between Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin.

Need I say more?

You could try answering the question. Or not post some red-herring of a response.

DT, STFU! You keep riding this damned high horse while your own utter BS in many a post precedes you.

(04-01-2011 07:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 12:12 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 12:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The Liberals had a choice between Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin.

Need I say more?

You could try answering the question. Or not post some red-herring of a response.

DT, STFU! You keep riding this damned high horse while your own utter BS in many a post precedes you.

I warned you when you first got here that you'd embarass yourself. People here expect substance in their discussions.

(03-31-2011 12:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The Liberals had a choice between Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin.

Need I say more?

Tom,

I hear you on that but its not the voting for Obama that gets to me its folks like Ed Shultz carrying tons of water over Libya....

Ill put it to you this way. I voted for Bush in 2000 but when I saw his spending habits and some of his more questionable policies I voted third party in 2004. Do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

(03-31-2011 12:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The Liberals had a choice between Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin.

Need I say more?

The liberals had a choice between Obama and Hillary Clinton, amongst others. But, your statement is a pretty telling repudiation of Obama. It seems the implicit answer to the original question is yes and yes. That's how we wound up with someone that should not have been there in the first place and hasn't shown he knows what he's doing in any particular situation.

Sorry Owl...it's just not quite that cut and dried for me. Obama passed massive amounts of liberal agenda things other than the differences on issues listed in the original post...I was really only answering the part about the choice for the liberals for president. Most folks (and yes many liberals) full well realize that candidates change many views after they get elected...especially ones that involve national security.

And DT...blow me. I was running out of the office yesterday to pick up my daughter to go to a concert. Forgive me for not staying and eloquently espousing my position so not to offend you asshats in here that think their **** doesn't stink!

Carry on...

(04-01-2011 07:44 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-01-2011 07:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 12:12 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(03-31-2011 12:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The Liberals had a choice between Obama-Biden and McCain-Palin.

Need I say more?

You could try answering the question. Or not post some red-herring of a response.

DT, STFU! You keep riding this damned high horse while your own utter BS in many a post precedes you.

I warned you when you first got here that you'd embarass yourself. People here expect substance in their discussions.

I would expect the people on here to be intelligent enough to have a meaningful discussion before having one. Which is why I have never had one on here. Especially with Mr. "I actually believe Obama said labia" Trochy.

So the liberals who post here are fine and dandy with escalating the war in Afghanistan, keeping Gitmo open and having secret trials,
bombing Lybia?

I love how no libs have answered the question. I can tell you that one of my younger coworkers (who's extremely liberal) thinks Obama has failed. She believes it's because he's given in to the republicans too much, but no matter the reason, she is definitely not pleased with him.

(04-01-2011 02:43 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  So the liberals who post here are fine and dandy with escalating the war in Afghanistan, keeping Gitmo open and having secret trials,
bombing Lybia?

Of course...it's fine as long as they get to continue their social programs and big government. They really do not care about people dying abuses in prisons or the loss of their liberties. They just care about what government can do for THEM.

(04-01-2011 03:06 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  I love how no libs have answered the question. I can tell you that one of my younger coworkers (who's extremely liberal) thinks Obama has failed. She believes it's because he's given in to the republicans too much, but no matter the reason, she is definitely not pleased with him.

Some liberals are at work.

(04-01-2011 03:06 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  I love how no libs have answered the question. I can tell you that one of my younger coworkers (who's extremely liberal) thinks Obama has failed. She believes it's because he's given in to the republicans too much, but no matter the reason, she is definitely not pleased with him.

I'm really mystified as to exactly what it is that Obama has given in to the REPUBLICANS on.

He's given into the blue dogs in his own party a lot, because he didn't have the votes without them.

Even on the extension of the "Bush tax cuts," he was givng in to his own party to get the votes, republicans just happened to come along also--and he got $500 billion that he wanted in return for giving the republicans $70 billion that they wanted--and he got to blame the deficit impact on the republicans. That's the kind of "giving in" that we'd all like to do, every day.

(04-01-2011 11:43 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I would expect the people on here to be intelligent enough to have a meaningful discussion before having one. Which is why I have never had one on here.

Says the guy who never posts anything to contribute to a meaningful discussion. Talking points are so much easier. No thinking required.