(08-18-2010 09:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 11:25 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Well, if republicans can have useless investigations about nonsense, then we can too.

Funny thing is when Michelle Bachman asked the press to look into anti American attitudes of elected officials calls of McCarthyism rang out. When Pelosi calls for an investigate off American Citizens who oppose a mosque being built near ground zero there are crickets from the MSM..

GOOD POINT, I never thought of it in that light.

It can't possibly be a grass roots ground swell of opposition in a liberal's view, it has to be a conspiracy funded by some hate group. Even IF there was a group funding the opposition movement, what law would this break? No one is suggesting any violence or harm come to the people who want this, only questioning the reason why. How would it merit ANY kind of investigation. I think the one who should be investigated is that NAZI broad Nancy Pelosi.

(08-19-2010 07:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 09:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 11:25 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Well, if republicans can have useless investigations about nonsense, then we can too.

Funny thing is when Michelle Bachman asked the press to look into anti American attitudes of elected officials calls of McCarthyism rang out. When Pelosi calls for an investigate off American Citizens who oppose a mosque being built near ground zero there are crickets from the MSM..

GOOD POINT, I never thought of it in that light.

It's ironic that Pelosi comes from San Fran, a city who wouldn't give the military a permit to film a commercial, and she represents Berkley, a city that tried to kick out a military recruiting office and she said NOTHING!

(08-18-2010 09:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 11:25 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Well, if republicans can have useless investigations about nonsense, then we can too.

Funny thing is when Michelle Bachman asked the press to look into anti American attitudes of elected officials calls of McCarthyism rang out. When Pelosi calls for an investigate off American Citizens who oppose a mosque being built near ground zero there are crickets from the MSM..

Actually, it wasn't calls of McCarthyism that rang out, it was

(08-21-2010 09:29 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 09:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 11:25 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Well, if republicans can have useless investigations about nonsense, then we can too.

Funny thing is when Michelle Bachman asked the press to look into anti American attitudes of elected officials calls of McCarthyism rang out. When Pelosi calls for an investigate off American Citizens who oppose a mosque being built near ground zero there are crickets from the MSM..

Actually, it wasn't calls of McCarthyism that rang out, it was

Maybe you're right maybe nobody called her out as McCarty-like

Then again since it's you saying it Ill doubt that people were not playing it up as modern day McCarthy.

(08-21-2010 10:58 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-21-2010 09:29 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 09:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 11:25 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Well, if republicans can have useless investigations about nonsense, then we can too.

Funny thing is when Michelle Bachman asked the press to look into anti American attitudes of elected officials calls of McCarthyism rang out. When Pelosi calls for an investigate off American Citizens who oppose a mosque being built near ground zero there are crickets from the MSM..

Actually, it wasn't calls of McCarthyism that rang out, it was

Maybe you're right maybe nobody called her out as McCarty-like

Then again since it's you saying it Ill doubt that people were not playing it up as modern day McCarthy.

Well, the laughing came first. Nobody except for you nuts on thee far right takes that woman seriously.

(08-21-2010 11:17 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Well, the laughing came first. Nobody except for you nuts on thee far right takes that woman seriously.

They sure waste a 5#!7 load of powder (and cash) trying to take down someone they don't take seriously...

(08-21-2010 11:17 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Well, the laughing came first. Nobody except for you nuts on thee far right takes that woman seriously.

Nobody but the far left takes Pelosi seriously either... but now that she has power, we HAVE to

(08-18-2010 09:38 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  What is a Rep from Calif doing commenting on this anyway?

What is anyone from outside New York City commenting on this anyway? This is a local matter.....plain and simple. If the governments of New York City and the State of New York see no legal reason to prevent it from being built then the congressman from California, or the internet blogger from Kansas City, or my dumb*** from Austin can all shut the **** up.

(08-22-2010 04:56 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 09:38 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  What is a Rep from Calif doing commenting on this anyway?

What is anyone from outside New York City commenting on this anyway? This is a local matter.....plain and simple. If the governments of New York City and the State of New York see no legal reason to prevent it from being built then the congressman from California, or the internet blogger from Kansas City, or my dumb*** from Austin can all shut the **** up.

Yea, but once Obama makes a comment supporting it, and once the Imam goes “globe-trotting” to raise funds to build it, with travel and expenses paid for by the US State Department, well that pretty much makes it a “National Issue.”

And its a legit question to ask any elected Federal Official their opinion on the expenditure of Federal Funds and related issues.

(08-22-2010 12:31 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-21-2010 11:17 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Well, the laughing came first. Nobody except for you nuts on thee far right takes that woman seriously.

They sure waste a 5#!7 load of powder (and cash) trying to take down someone they don't take seriously...

Actually, it really doesn't take much cash to take her down, she does it by herself. All that has to be done is show her ridiculous comments

(08-22-2010 05:45 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 04:56 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 09:38 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  What is a Rep from Calif doing commenting on this anyway?

What is anyone from outside New York City commenting on this anyway? This is a local matter.....plain and simple. If the governments of New York City and the State of New York see no legal reason to prevent it from being built then the congressman from California, or the internet blogger from Kansas City, or my dumb*** from Austin can all shut the **** up.

Yea, but once Obama makes a comment supporting it, and once the Imam goes “globe-trotting” to raise funds to build it, with travel and expenses paid for by the US State Department, well that pretty much makes it a “National Issue.”

And its a legit question to ask any elected Federal Official their opinion on the expenditure of Federal Funds and related issues.

Once again, its a local matter. Anyone else getting involved should STFU.....that includes our president and our state department. Your contention that the State Department is funding the community center is a completely separate question. The original distinction about whether it should be built should be left completely up to the people of new york and their representatives.

Seems the people of New York don't want it. And their representatives are saying fk'em.

Sorry for speaking up on the matter.

(08-22-2010 07:02 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Seems the people of New York don't want it. And their representatives are saying fk'em.

Sorry for speaking up on the matter.

Seems lie that it is the owners damn rights to build it no matter how much they/you hate Muslims/Islam.

(08-22-2010 07:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:02 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Seems the people of New York don't want it. And their representatives are saying fk'em.

Sorry for speaking up on the matter.

Seems lie that it is the owners damn rights to build it no matter how much they/you hate Muslims/Islam.

Sure, if your goal is to piss off your neighbors...

(08-22-2010 07:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:02 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Seems the people of New York don't want it. And their representatives are saying fk'em.

Sorry for speaking up on the matter.

Seems lie that it is the owners damn rights to build it no matter how much they/you hate Muslims/Islam.

Show me one person who says they don't have a right to build.

Why do you and Obama want to change the subject?

(08-22-2010 07:50 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:02 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Seems the people of New York don't want it. And their representatives are saying fk'em.

Sorry for speaking up on the matter.

Seems lie that it is the owners damn rights to build it no matter how much they/you hate Muslims/Islam.

Sure, if your goal is to piss off your neighbors...

Their neighbors are a bunch of bars and strip clubs. I really doubt any of them would give a ****. It is only people who hate(ie. tea partier types) that care that it will be built there. Again for you Faux lemmings, it isn't even a mosque so your opinion on this subject is worthless to begin with.

(08-22-2010 08:05 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:02 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Seems the people of New York don't want it. And their representatives are saying fk'em.

Sorry for speaking up on the matter.

Seems lie that it is the owners damn rights to build it no matter how much they/you hate Muslims/Islam.

Show me one person who says they don't have a right to build.

Why do you and Obama want to change the subject?

Not changing the subject. There are many out there that don't have a right to build it. You are on the border but have not crossed that line. I do honestly believe you don't believe they have the right to build it. Once again, it isn't even a mosque so I really am not sure what the big deal is. It will be kind of a Islamic YMCA with a praying room.

(08-22-2010 10:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 08:05 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:02 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Seems the people of New York don't want it. And their representatives are saying fk'em.
Sorry for speaking up on the matter.

Seems lie that it is the owners damn rights to build it no matter how much they/you hate Muslims/Islam.

Show me one person who says they don't have a right to build.
Why do you and Obama want to change the subject?

Not changing the subject. There are many out there that don't have a right to build it. You are on the border but have not crossed that line. I do honestly believe you don't believe they have the right to build it. Once again, it isn't even a mosque so I really am not sure what the big deal is. It will be kind of a Islamic YMCA with a praying room.

I don't think I've seen anyone argue that they don't have the right. The debate is over whether it's appropriate to do it. We all have lots of rights to do things that reflect poor taste or judgement. That doesn't mean we should do them.

I still think it's most likely a moot point. You're not going to build anything in New York without union labor, and I'm guessing that won't happen.

As for whether or not it is a mosque, Obama called it a mosque.

(08-22-2010 10:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 10:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 08:05 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:02 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Seems the people of New York don't want it. And their representatives are saying fk'em.
Sorry for speaking up on the matter.

Seems lie that it is the owners damn rights to build it no matter how much they/you hate Muslims/Islam.

Show me one person who says they don't have a right to build.
Why do you and Obama want to change the subject?

Not changing the subject. There are many out there that don't have a right to build it. You are on the border but have not crossed that line. I do honestly believe you don't believe they have the right to build it. Once again, it isn't even a mosque so I really am not sure what the big deal is. It will be kind of a Islamic YMCA with a praying room.

I don't think I've seen anyone argue that they don't have the right. The debate is over whether it's appropriate to do it. We all have lots of rights to do things that reflect poor taste or judgement. That doesn't mean we should do them.

As for whether or not it is a mosque, Obama called it a mosque.

Unfortunately, like you and others, he has obviously repeated what the news media is feeding all of us. Also, just because he said it was doesn't make it so.