Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

When asking him about his earlier comment, John Gibson addressed Barack as Mr. Obama. Barry responded "That's Mister President to you, cracker."

Morals.... How is the left defining morals? Objective standards or Subjective standards? If the moral standards they are employing today are objective please inform us from whence they came.

...and under that standard, does Tony Rezko and Barack Obama multiple transactions pass that objective standard?

(04-29-2010 04:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

They're good at spending other people's money, not their own.

Obama is clearly incorrect on this one..

When you combine the Health Care Tax, the increased Federal Income and FICA Taxes, Energy Taxes, and the proposed VAT, and God knows what else....How in the Hell could an individual "make enough money"?

He will be paying 60-65% in combined State and Federal Taxes. And then he gets to pay his individual debts (P&I) with the remainder.

Consumer spending will dry up faster than the Aral Sea.

(04-29-2010 11:21 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 10:54 AM)BGSUalum1987 Wrote:  That's the way capitalism is built - all you can eat. Now, at some point, morals should tell you that you can do a lot with your wealth to help others. Gates learned that from Buffett and became a great philanthropist.

I beg to differ. Gates was every bit as much a philanthropist when he grew Microsoft and provided pay to tens of thousands of employees. The big drawback is that he tried to monopolize the industry by many means except putting out a superior product.

Nevertheless, Microsoft provided jobs for many people and their products did aid in progress. Far more than any gov't social program.

That's what the left doesn't understand.

I'll differ, too. Creating jobs that, ultimately, help you profit further does not make you a philanthropist. A smart businessman, yes, but not a philanthropist.

Philanthropy is rooted in donations and aid.

Now that's not to say philanthropy and success in business have to be mutually exclusive, but I think you are misappropriating the word in this instance.

As long as Obama is willing to allow me to make as much as he does without saying I'm making too much, I'm okay. I don't make nearly that much now that I'm semi-retired and teaching.

Of course, I wish Obama felt compelled to give as much to charity as I do.

Read the entire quote.

"We’re not, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you’re providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy."

Thread is a bit misleading.

I would think he would want us to make as much money as possible. The government's gotta have those tax dollars.

(04-30-2010 01:57 AM)dwr0109 Wrote:  Read the entire quote.

"We’re not, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you’re providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy."

Thread is a bit misleading.

I would think he would want us to make as much money as possible. The government's gotta have those tax dollars.

"We’re not, we’re not..... I mean, ... But, you know, ....you know....." said the Long Legged Mack Daddy

(04-29-2010 10:40 PM)BGSUalum1987 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 11:21 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 10:54 AM)BGSUalum1987 Wrote:  That's the way capitalism is built - all you can eat. Now, at some point, morals should tell you that you can do a lot with your wealth to help others. Gates learned that from Buffett and became a great philanthropist.

I beg to differ. Gates was every bit as much a philanthropist when he grew Microsoft and provided pay to tens of thousands of employees. The big drawback is that he tried to monopolize the industry by many means except putting out a superior product.

Nevertheless, Microsoft provided jobs for many people and their products did aid in progress. Far more than any gov't social program.

That's what the left doesn't understand.

I'll differ, too. Creating jobs that, ultimately, help you profit further does not make you a philanthropist. A smart businessman, yes, but not a philanthropist.

Philanthropy is rooted in donations and aid.

Now that's not to say philanthropy and success in business have to be mutually exclusive, but I think you are misapprond priating the word in this instance.

Capitalists have donated more than the most committed socialists to the humanity of mankind.

Capitalism is ideas in motion. The best ideas get funded until a new idea replaces it.

(04-29-2010 09:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 04:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

They're good at spending other people's money, not their own.

The GOP gang members also have no problem spending our stolen wages. I have seen zero evidence that either side is ready to cut their corporate or social welfare spending programs. I'd rather we focus on how much is being stolen from us and wasted..instead of worrying about how much people give to charity.

(04-30-2010 08:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 09:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 04:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

They're good at spending other people's money, not their own.

The GOP gang members also have no problem spending our stolen wages. I have seen zero evidence that either side is ready to cut their corporate or social welfare spending programs. I'd rather we focus on how much is being stolen from us and wasted..instead of worrying about how much people give to charity.

Not the point of my comment. Since you make the same comment in every post, why not just include it in your signature, then you could just make a blank post on each thread.

I think Obama's intent is more accuarately articulated by his supporters

(04-30-2010 08:43 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 09:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 04:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

They're good at spending other people's money, not their own.

The GOP gang members also have no problem spending our stolen wages. I have seen zero evidence that either side is ready to cut their corporate or social welfare spending programs. I'd rather we focus on how much is being stolen from us and wasted..instead of worrying about how much people give to charity.

Not the point of my comment. Since you make the same comment in every post, why not just include it in your signature, then you could just make a blank post on each thread.

There is an ignore feature on this board...feel free to use it.

I guess putting up with your nonsense about the birth certificate for months does not count for repeated postings....hypocrite.

(04-30-2010 12:06 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:43 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 09:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 04:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

They're good at spending other people's money, not their own.

The GOP gang members also have no problem spending our stolen wages. I have seen zero evidence that either side is ready to cut their corporate or social welfare spending programs. I'd rather we focus on how much is being stolen from us and wasted..instead of worrying about how much people give to charity.

Not the point of my comment. Since you make the same comment in every post, why not just include it in your signature, then you could just make a blank post on each thread.

There is an ignore feature on this board...feel free to use it.

I guess putting up with your nonsense about the birth certificate for months does not count for repeated postings....hypocrite.

If you think the birth certificate thing is fringe, your world view is completely off the chart. Atheism, Narcissism and Anarchy. Back at ya ...hypocrite.

(04-30-2010 06:36 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 10:40 PM)BGSUalum1987 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 11:21 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 10:54 AM)BGSUalum1987 Wrote:  That's the way capitalism is built - all you can eat. Now, at some point, morals should tell you that you can do a lot with your wealth to help others. Gates learned that from Buffett and became a great philanthropist.

I beg to differ. Gates was every bit as much a philanthropist when he grew Microsoft and provided pay to tens of thousands of employees. The big drawback is that he tried to monopolize the industry by many means except putting out a superior product.

Nevertheless, Microsoft provided jobs for many people and their products did aid in progress. Far more than any gov't social program.

That's what the left doesn't understand.

I'll differ, too. Creating jobs that, ultimately, help you profit further does not make you a philanthropist. A smart businessman, yes, but not a philanthropist.

Philanthropy is rooted in donations and aid.

Now that's not to say philanthropy and success in business have to be mutually exclusive, but I think you are misapprond priating the word in this instance.

Capitalists have donated more than the most committed socialists to the humanity of mankind.

Capitalism is ideas in motion. The best ideas get funded until a new idea replaces it.

His point remains though. Hiring people so you can make more money isn't philanthropy.

(04-30-2010 02:46 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  His point remains though. Hiring people so you can make more money isn't philanthropy.

No, but it probably does more good for more people than all of the philanthropy in the world.

(04-30-2010 12:12 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 12:06 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:43 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 09:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 04:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

They're good at spending other people's money, not their own.

The GOP gang members also have no problem spending our stolen wages. I have seen zero evidence that either side is ready to cut their corporate or social welfare spending programs. I'd rather we focus on how much is being stolen from us and wasted..instead of worrying about how much people give to charity.

Not the point of my comment. Since you make the same comment in every post, why not just include it in your signature, then you could just make a blank post on each thread.

There is an ignore feature on this board...feel free to use it.

I guess putting up with your nonsense about the birth certificate for months does not count for repeated postings....hypocrite.

If you think the birth certificate thing is fringe, your world view is completely off the chart. Atheism, Narcissism and Anarchy. Back at ya ...hypocrite.

Evidently because of my repeated posts about the theft and violence of the state you missed some others... Ill catch you up!

I'm not an Atheist...I'm an Pantheist.
I'm not an Anarchist...I'm a Voluntarilist.

As for being a narcissist...well...I must admit that I do love ME. I believe that I am the best sh!t going!!

Go back and waste your time researching endless resources to try and prove the "birther" nonsense. While you are at it you might want to research 911 conspiracies, Chemtrails and Harp weather control..Just for fun.

(04-30-2010 09:14 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 12:12 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 12:06 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:43 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 09:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 04:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

They're good at spending other people's money, not their own.

The GOP gang members also have no problem spending our stolen wages. I have seen zero evidence that either side is ready to cut their corporate or social welfare spending programs. I'd rather we focus on how much is being stolen from us and wasted..instead of worrying about how much people give to charity.

Not the point of my comment. Since you make the same comment in every post, why not just include it in your signature, then you could just make a blank post on each thread.

There is an ignore feature on this board...feel free to use it.

I guess putting up with your nonsense about the birth certificate for months does not count for repeated postings....hypocrite.

If you think the birth certificate thing is fringe, your world view is completely off the chart. Atheism, Narcissism and Anarchy. Back at ya ...hypocrite.

Evidently because of my repeated posts about the theft and violence of the state you missed some others... Ill catch you up!

I'm not an Atheist...I'm an Pantheist.
I'm not an Anarchist...I'm a Voluntarilist.

As for being a narcissist...well...I must admit that I do love ME. I believe that I am the best sh!t going!!

Go back and waste your time researching endless resources to try and prove the "birther" nonsense. While you are at it you might want to research 911 conspiracies, Chemtrails and Harp weather control..Just for fun.

More idiotic than what I gave you credit for.

(04-30-2010 12:12 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 12:06 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:43 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-30-2010 08:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 09:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-29-2010 04:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is Definitely speaking about and toward charity. We all know which party is the contributor to charity. While Republicans donate to charity in amounts unheard of in the world, Democrats only like to spend other peoples money. While Obama made charitable contributions in the 6% range, Biden was in the 2% range. It's a do as I say, not as I do thing.

They're good at spending other people's money, not their own.

The GOP gang members also have no problem spending our stolen wages. I have seen zero evidence that either side is ready to cut their corporate or social welfare spending programs. I'd rather we focus on how much is being stolen from us and wasted..instead of worrying about how much people give to charity.

Not the point of my comment. Since you make the same comment in every post, why not just include it in your signature, then you could just make a blank post on each thread.

There is an ignore feature on this board...feel free to use it.

I guess putting up with your nonsense about the birth certificate for months does not count for repeated postings....hypocrite.

If you think the birth certificate thing is fringe, your world view is completely off the chart. Atheism, Narcissism and Anarchy. Back at ya ...hypocrite.

I dunno guy, you did start the whole birther thing as far as this message board is concerned. It still pops up every now and again.

But can't we agree that it is partly true that the GOP hasn't done anything to cut spending on the federal level. They might talk about cutting everything now because its the flavor of the day, but they are far from angels. It would benefit all citizens if both parties stood up and announced their mistakes and tried to start over from a new slate. But I truly think that they are both perfect and have done nothing wrong.