(04-10-2010 03:46 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's frightening to me how Paul's mind works. I certainly wasn't advocating for anyone like Fo to be put on a list. You really seem to hate America Paul. People are free to voice dissent, but this guy has a long list of treason. May God have mercy on your soul. You have a very simple and twisted mind.

This is a blatant violation of the spin room AUP. You should be ashamed of yourself for attacking Paul in such a fashion.

I have taken it upon myself to report your horrific violation to the mods here. Your continued violations of the AUP should not be allowed to continue.

If preaching the destruction of the US is a killing offense, then half the Obama administration wouldn't have made it past 1975.

(04-10-2010 06:26 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 03:46 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's frightening to me how Paul's mind works. I certainly wasn't advocating for anyone like Fo to be put on a list. You really seem to hate America Paul. People are free to voice dissent, but this guy has a long list of treason. May God have mercy on your soul. You have a very simple and twisted mind.

This is a blatant violation of the spin room AUP. You should be ashamed of yourself for attacking Paul in such a fashion.

I have taken it upon myself to report your horrific violation to the mods here. Your continued violations of the AUP should not be allowed to continue.

Oh my God! He said Paul hates America! He must be banned immediately(so you can have your rightie lovefest without interuption). If I had a nickel for every time one of you righties told that to me, I would be a millionaire.

(04-10-2010 07:12 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 06:26 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 03:46 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's frightening to me how Paul's mind works. I certainly wasn't advocating for anyone like Fo to be put on a list. You really seem to hate America Paul. People are free to voice dissent, but this guy has a long list of treason. May God have mercy on your soul. You have a very simple and twisted mind.

This is a blatant violation of the spin room AUP. You should be ashamed of yourself for attacking Paul in such a fashion.

I have taken it upon myself to report your horrific violation to the mods here. Your continued violations of the AUP should not be allowed to continue.

Oh my God! He said Paul hates America! He must be banned immediately(so you can have your rightie lovefest without interuption). If I had a nickel for every time one of you righties told that to me, I would be a millionaire.

Sarcastic irony, combined with facts, is clearly lost on you.

(04-10-2010 04:34 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I see a neo con as someone who puts Isreal's interests before our own. This guy has been training Al Quadea wt hell?

You really do just make this stuff up.

(04-10-2010 05:07 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 04:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 04:34 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I see a neo con as someone who puts Isreal's interests before our own. This guy has been training Al Quadea wt hell?

A neoconservative is defined by an aggressive pre-emptive foreign policy, increase in government size, scope, spending, and power, a decrease in individual liberties and freedoms, and throwing all rights and the justice system completely out the window if somebody "is a terrorist."

e.g. - George W. Bush.

And your statement above fits the last tenant of the neocon platform quite snugly.

so basically you're saying that obama is pretty close to being a neo-con?

Yes. "But wait ... Bush wasn't for nationalized health care!" .... Well... you only get partial credit. Medicare Part D ... the Rx drug benefit ... a several TRILLION dollar hole we're still digging deeper on.

(04-10-2010 02:07 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want to see you explain this with a straight face. The following is so bad that even Olbermann blasted Obama for it.


Bush-Cheney were for indefinite detainment. They were against habeas corpus. They were for rendition. They were for warrantless wiretapping. They were for warrantless search and seizure. They were for gag orders. They were for the Patriot Act.

ALL OF THESE THINGS, the Obama administration is either outright supports or implicitly supports.

But never did Bush-Cheney authorize an assassination of a US citizen without due process.

Congrats Obama supporters ... you've reached a new low. A level of shitting on civil liberties SO BAD ... even Bush-Cheney couldn't stomach it. Well done. Well done, indeed.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_...index.html

al-Awlaki isn't the first to have a "Hunting License" issued against him.

Adam Gadahn a/k/a "Azam the American" who is the AQ Propaganda Spokesman, had the same Order issued against him in 2007. Of course, he is also under a Federal Indictment for Treason.

A few other Terrorist-Americans have also been killed in Drone attacks, but there is no evidence that they were directly targeted. More like "being in the wrong place" when the missile hit.

(04-11-2010 01:29 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 05:07 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 04:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 04:34 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I see a neo con as someone who puts Isreal's interests before our own. This guy has been training Al Quadea wt hell?

A neoconservative is defined by an aggressive pre-emptive foreign policy, increase in government size, scope, spending, and power, a decrease in individual liberties and freedoms, and throwing all rights and the justice system completely out the window if somebody "is a terrorist."

e.g. - George W. Bush.

And your statement above fits the last tenant of the neocon platform quite snugly.

so basically you're saying that obama is pretty close to being a neo-con?

Yes. "But wait ... Bush wasn't for nationalized health care!" .... Well... you only get partial credit. Medicare Part D ... the Rx drug benefit ... a several TRILLION dollar hole we're still digging deeper on.

i never said he wasn't

(04-10-2010 04:22 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 09:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If you have people preaching outright hate and calling for the destruction of the US. Yeah................ you kill them.

WHAT??????

Congrats Mach -- you're a neocon when it comes to the justice system and civil liberties.

No, he's just a bigass hypocrite. Oh, it's ok now that "his" guy is in office.


BTW, screw this guy. As far as I'm concerned he gave up his citizenship when he decided to leave the country and take up arms against her. I would applaud Obama, had he not taken a completely different stance when he was just a Jr. Senator. Now he's nothing but another hypocritical liberal.

No, he's just a bigass hypocrite. Oh, it's ok now that "his" guy is in office.


Examples.????????????????????????

or you writing checks your ass can't cash......................... AGAIN........... nowhere will you find me complaining about the previous administartion targeting Al Qadea. Get a clue.

You need to go back and read gts's original post. All you people screamed Bush was a criminal and now your guy is trumping him and all is well.

conjecture...... all you people...............

(04-12-2010 08:01 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  No, he's just a bigass hypocrite. Oh, it's ok now that "his" guy is in office.


Examples.????????????????????????

or you writing checks your *** can't cash......................... AGAIN........... nowhere will you find me complaining about the previous administartion targeting Al Qadea. Get a clue.

Oh, you don't remember bitching about the Patriot Act, Guantanamo, the so-called "right" for terrorists to be tried in civil courts, etc. during the previous administration?

Some memory you have there, Mach.

(04-12-2010 08:01 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  No, he's just a bigass hypocrite. Oh, it's ok now that "his" guy is in office.


Examples.????????????????????????

or you writing checks your *** can't cash......................... AGAIN........... nowhere will you find me complaining about the previous administartion targeting Al Qadea. Get a clue.

Disgraceful personal attack on Reb. I have reported this post as it is a total violation of the Spin Room AUP.

you will find one thread I started about Jose Padilla. He was an American citizen who was being held at Guantanamo. I think I even said put him on trial for treason. You always paint with a broad brush. Always have always will.

This is why we need a moderator who will moderate.

(04-12-2010 08:19 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  you will find one thread I started about Jose Padilla. He was an American citizen who was being held at Guantanamo. I think I even said put him on trial for treason. You always paint with a broad brush. Always have always will.

Jose Padilla was never in Guantanamo. Get your facts straight. He was in a military detention center in Charleston, SC.

As for your hypocrisy, your short-term memory may be f'ed up, but everyone else's is fine. It wasn't just Padilla. It was Bush's entire way of handling terrorists that you opposed. Now, however, it seems to be fine. The constant? Your guy is in office. That is hypocrisy.

again ...... examples

or is this another Dogger was banned post too....................

This isn't about targeting for assassination one guy. This is about your's and others opposition to the entire Bush doctrine, a doctrine your guy has stepped up and apparently now all is fine.