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Where do we go from here?
It would be easier if we could play a two platoon system. Offense and defense. But unlike football, basketball players have to be effective on both sides of the ball. But I don't really know anyone who's sitting on the bench who can play defense any better than those already playing.


Last year we could bring in LaMarvin Jackson, who contributed nothing on offense, but he could give you good defensive minutes. But none of our big men are particulary quick afoot or quick off the floor, so it doesn't really matter which one is playing. I'm not certain Bails might not be the best all around. Montrelle is coming on and will be allright in time, but Bails has more offensive skills, and is a pretty good rebounder.
But for some reason, the coaches will not even play him in some games.
I'm sure they see some things we don't, but you hate to see a guy with that NBA body sitting on the bench for 40 minutes.

We would still have some shortcomings, but I have to admit, losing Mike certainly changed some things around, and not in a positive manner.
If he was playing the four it would give us another player who was capable of scoring 8-10 points a game and rebound. We can't count on Courtney scoring that many points on a regular basis.

We're normally going to get double figures from Solo. III will normally have double figures, or at least close to it, and Alex will probably be in the 12-15 range, with an occasional game higher or lower. Kelson has had one good game (not counting the D2 game), so it remains to be seen what he can do. Ricky hits some shots and looks good at times.
If we could get just low double figures from each of our 4 and 5, we would win some games. And they have to become more dominant on the boards.

O.K. Here's my primary lineup for Denver. Start III and Solo, and let them alternate between the point and the 2 position. They can both distribute the ball and can shoot when open. To make InsideUALR and MJS happy, Kelson at the 3, Alex at the four and Bails at the five. You send Kelson to the boards to rebound, along with Alex and Bails. This is a good offensive lineup with some combined height to rebound. Plus you have most of your scorers in the game. You can bring Ricky in at intervals.

Here's my thinking. In the past, particularly Wright State, we get in a hole because not only do we give up points, we have most of our best scorers on the bench. You can't wait until you're 17 points down to call a timeout and make a substitution. This way, you have people who can handle the ball reasonably well, shoot well, and do some rebounding. At least you shouldn't get blown out in the first ten minutes of the game and play from behind all night, maybe struggling to take the lead, but then not being able to hold it. Some might believe differently, but Kelson is not a 2 guard. He's a 3 and even possibly a small 4 IMO. But hey. That's what makes horse races.04-cheers
01-26-2010 02:43 PM
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RE: Where do we go from here?
(01-26-2010 02:43 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  It would be easier if we could play a two platoon system. Offense and defense. But unlike football, basketball players have to be effective on both sides of the ball. But I don't really know anyone who's sitting on the bench who can play defense any better than those already playing.


Last year we could bring in LaMarvin Jackson, who contributed nothing on offense, but he could give you good defensive minutes. But none of our big men are particulary quick afoot or quick off the floor, so it doesn't really matter which one is playing. I'm not certain Bails might not be the best all around. Montrelle is coming on and will be allright in time, but Bails has more offensive skills, and is a pretty good rebounder.
But for some reason, the coaches will not even play him in some games.
I'm sure they see some things we don't, but you hate to see a guy with that NBA body sitting on the bench for 40 minutes.

We would still have some shortcomings, but I have to admit, losing Mike certainly changed some things around, and not in a positive manner.
If he was playing the four it would give us another player who was capable of scoring 8-10 points a game and rebound. We can't count on Courtney scoring that many points on a regular basis.

We're normally going to get double figures from Solo. III will normally have double figures, or at least close to it, and Alex will probably be in the 12-15 range, with an occasional game higher or lower. Kelson has had one good game (not counting the D2 game), so it remains to be seen what he can do. Ricky hits some shots and looks good at times.
If we could get just low double figures from each of our 4 and 5, we would win some games. And they have to become more dominant on the boards.

O.K. Here's my primary lineup for Denver. Start III and Solo, and let them alternate between the point and the 2 position. They can both distribute the ball and can shoot when open. To make InsideUALR and MJS happy, Kelson at the 3, Alex at the four and Bails at the five. You send Kelson to the boards to rebound, along with Alex and Bails. This is a good offensive lineup with some combined height to rebound. Plus you have most of your scorers in the game. You can bring Ricky in at intervals.

Here's my thinking. In the past, particularly Wright State, we get in a hole because not only do we give up points, we have most of our best scorers on the bench. You can't wait until you're 17 points down to call a timeout and make a substitution. This way, you have people who can handle the ball reasonably well, shoot well, and do some rebounding. At least you shouldn't get blown out in the first ten minutes of the game and play from behind all night, maybe struggling to take the lead, but then not being able to hold it. Some might believe differently, but Kelson is not a 2 guard. He's a 3 and even possibly a small 4 IMO. But hey. That's what makes horse races.04-cheers

Off hand, the only time I remember that happening was against Wright State. We've had a second half lead in every Sun Belt game. We have to learn how to finish. We seemed to do fine for the first 25-30 minutes in just about every game this year.
01-26-2010 02:55 PM
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RE: Where do we go from here?
(01-26-2010 02:55 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(01-26-2010 02:43 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  It would be easier if we could play a two platoon system. Offense and defense. But unlike football, basketball players have to be effective on both sides of the ball. But I don't really know anyone who's sitting on the bench who can play defense any better than those already playing.


Last year we could bring in LaMarvin Jackson, who contributed nothing on offense, but he could give you good defensive minutes. But none of our big men are particulary quick afoot or quick off the floor, so it doesn't really matter which one is playing. I'm not certain Bails might not be the best all around. Montrelle is coming on and will be allright in time, but Bails has more offensive skills, and is a pretty good rebounder.
But for some reason, the coaches will not even play him in some games.
I'm sure they see some things we don't, but you hate to see a guy with that NBA body sitting on the bench for 40 minutes.

We would still have some shortcomings, but I have to admit, losing Mike certainly changed some things around, and not in a positive manner.
If he was playing the four it would give us another player who was capable of scoring 8-10 points a game and rebound. We can't count on Courtney scoring that many points on a regular basis.

We're normally going to get double figures from Solo. III will normally have double figures, or at least close to it, and Alex will probably be in the 12-15 range, with an occasional game higher or lower. Kelson has had one good game (not counting the D2 game), so it remains to be seen what he can do. Ricky hits some shots and looks good at times.
If we could get just low double figures from each of our 4 and 5, we would win some games. And they have to become more dominant on the boards.

O.K. Here's my primary lineup for Denver. Start III and Solo, and let them alternate between the point and the 2 position. They can both distribute the ball and can shoot when open. To make InsideUALR and MJS happy, Kelson at the 3, Alex at the four and Bails at the five. You send Kelson to the boards to rebound, along with Alex and Bails. This is a good offensive lineup with some combined height to rebound. Plus you have most of your scorers in the game. You can bring Ricky in at intervals.

Here's my thinking. In the past, particularly Wright State, we get in a hole because not only do we give up points, we have most of our best scorers on the bench. You can't wait until you're 17 points down to call a timeout and make a substitution. This way, you have people who can handle the ball reasonably well, shoot well, and do some rebounding. At least you shouldn't get blown out in the first ten minutes of the game and play from behind all night, maybe struggling to take the lead, but then not being able to hold it. Some might believe differently, but Kelson is not a 2 guard. He's a 3 and even possibly a small 4 IMO. But hey. That's what makes horse races.04-cheers

Off hand, the only time I remember that happening was against Wright State. We've had a second half lead in every Sun Belt game. We have to learn how to finish. We seemed to do fine for the first 25-30 minutes in just about every game this year.


In a way, it's some what like horse racing, a horse can run a good two-thirds of a race, but gets beat down the stretch. We evidently don't have the horses that can finish.
01-26-2010 03:08 PM
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RE: Where do we go from here?
If we go with offense, I say start Ricky in place of III. He's shooting better than III at the moment.
01-26-2010 09:32 PM
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RE: Where do we go from here?
(01-26-2010 09:32 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  If we go with offense, I say start Ricky in place of III. He's shooting better than III at the moment.

As I understand it, III does some things other than score that normally get him more playing time. Rebounds, steals, and distributing the ball.
But it's really not important who starts. It's who finishes. I have no problem with Ricky starting. Give him a shot.04-cheers
01-26-2010 09:34 PM
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RE: Where do we go from here?
(01-26-2010 09:34 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  But it's really not important who starts. It's who finishes.

That is exactly what they said on TV last night that the attitude was of the Boston College coach.
01-27-2010 08:09 AM
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