http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8437652.stm

Quote:The suspect, who cannot be named for Danish legal reasons, was charged with attempted manslaughter

Attempted manslaughter???? WTF is that? I wonder if this will help to open the eyes of Europe so maybe they'll start to see the problems of being tolerant to all that Muslim immigration?

(01-02-2010 09:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:The suspect, who cannot be named for Danish legal reasons, was charged with attempted manslaughter

Attempted manslaughter???? WTF is that? I wonder if this will help to open the eyes of Europe so maybe they'll start to see the problems of being tolerant to all that Muslim immigration?

Probably not because they aren't as hateful and bigoted as you.

(01-02-2010 09:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 09:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:The suspect, who cannot be named for Danish legal reasons, was charged with attempted manslaughter

Attempted manslaughter???? WTF is that? I wonder if this will help to open the eyes of Europe so maybe they'll start to see the problems of being tolerant to all that Muslim immigration?

Probably not because they aren't as hateful and bigoted as you.

He wants to kill you, your mother, your father, your friends, and all of your siblings. smn does not, you fuken retarded idiot.

You need to get over this political bullsh1t and step into the real world, dumb***. smn is an American. Your dumb*** is an American. Political disagreements shouldn't be a reason to make such a STUPID GDamn accusation.

You really are a f'n moron. You know that?

(01-02-2010 09:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:The suspect, who cannot be named for Danish legal reasons, was charged with attempted manslaughter

Attempted manslaughter???? WTF is that? I wonder if this will help to open the eyes of Europe so maybe they'll start to see the problems of being tolerant to all that Muslim immigration?

Even the Swiss are turning against Islam.

http://www.theweeklystandard.com/Content...2uhxil.asp

^^He knows it and wears it like a badge of honor. You can't reason with a houseplant.

(01-02-2010 09:40 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 09:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 09:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:The suspect, who cannot be named for Danish legal reasons, was charged with attempted manslaughter

Attempted manslaughter???? WTF is that? I wonder if this will help to open the eyes of Europe so maybe they'll start to see the problems of being tolerant to all that Muslim immigration?

Probably not because they aren't as hateful and bigoted as you.

He wants to kill you, your mother, your father, your friends, and all of your siblings. smn does not, you fuken retarded idiot.

You need to get over this political bullsh1t and step into the real world, dumb***. smn is an American. Your dumb*** is an American. Political disagreements shouldn't be a reason to make such a STUPID GDamn accusation.

You really are a f'n moron. You know that?

Yea! Lets kill all the Muslims because they are all terrorists! That is the rights answer to our problems. Maybe this IS the reason why we are being attacked? One of our righty friends(you?) finally admitted the truth and said this was another crusades.

(01-02-2010 09:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Yea! Lets kill all the Muslims because they are all terrorists! That is the rights answer to our problems. Maybe this IS the reason why we are being attacked? One of our righty friends(you?) finally admitted the truth and said this was another crusades.

Still waiting on the same number of Muslims to protest terrorism that protest a GDamn Mohammed cartoon.

You f'n idiot, if we're ever taken over by them, you hedonistic idiots on the left will be the first ones they kill. Yeah, hate Christians, who have provided you with a FREE nation, actually, ALL Christian nations are free, and love Muslims. ........ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive. you f'n idiot.

You liberals have severe mental issues.

(01-02-2010 09:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 09:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:The suspect, who cannot be named for Danish legal reasons, was charged with attempted manslaughter

Attempted manslaughter???? WTF is that? I wonder if this will help to open the eyes of Europe so maybe they'll start to see the problems of being tolerant to all that Muslim immigration?

Probably not because they aren't as hateful and bigoted as you.

From the article:
Al-Shabab spokesman Sheikh Ali Muhamud Rage told AFP news agency: "We appreciate the incident in which a Muslim Somali boy attacked the devil who abused our prophet Mohammed and we call upon all Muslims around the world to target the people like" him.

And then this:
In 2006 the newspaper apologised for the offence caused by the drawings, but other European media reprinted them. Danish embassies were then attacked by Muslims around the world and dozens killed in riots.

And finally this:
Islamic militants have placed a $1m (£620,000) price on Mr Westergaard's head.

And you call me the hateful bigot. And where did you see anyone say they want to kill all the Muslims? We're not being attacked because we kill Muslims, what Muslims did we kill before either of the WTC attacks, Cole bombing, etc? They want to kill us because of who we are, our lifestyle and value system and I would imagine the first Americans they'd prefer to kill would be the ones who support gay marriage, women's rights...hell, make that human rights, and the Hollywood types. Rosie O and that flamer Perez Hilton would last about 2 seconds or the time it takes to fall to the floor after being beheaded

(01-02-2010 10:16 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 09:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Yea! Lets kill all the Muslims because they are all terrorists! That is the rights answer to our problems. Maybe this IS the reason why we are being attacked? One of our righty friends(you?) finally admitted the truth and said this was another crusades.

Still waiting on the same number of Muslims to protest terrorism that protest a GDamn Mohammed cartoon.

You f'n idiot, if we're ever taken over by them, you hedonistic idiots on the left will be the first ones they kill. Yeah, hate Christians, who have provided you with a FREE nation, actually, ALL Christian nations are free, and love Muslims. ........ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive. you f'n idiot.

You liberals have severe mental issues.

Oh Rebel.You crack me up everytime I read your posts. Sure, they would kill off the left first. You extremist Christians on the right are much more like them than us. Of course, having them take over our country is hilarious however, I could see the Christian extremists taking over. It got a big foothold under Bush.

As for the first part, that is because you watch a news station that doesn't show the other side. Faux knows you fear the Muslimsand want to keep it that way so they rarely if ever show you the other side.

Do you know how long it's been since I tuned in to any news station, you f'n loon?

I challenge you to find ANY majority Christian nation that's considered "oppressive". You show yourself to be a complete idiot with your stupidass analysis. ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive.

(01-02-2010 09:36 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 09:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:The suspect, who cannot be named for Danish legal reasons, was charged with attempted manslaughter

Attempted manslaughter???? WTF is that? I wonder if this will help to open the eyes of Europe so maybe they'll start to see the problems of being tolerant to all that Muslim immigration?

Probably not because they aren't as hateful and bigoted as you.

One could read this as either being written with a clever use of irony or glaring use of stupidity. Given the author, it's clearly the latter.

(01-03-2010 01:14 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 10:16 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 09:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Yea! Lets kill all the Muslims because they are all terrorists! That is the rights answer to our problems. Maybe this IS the reason why we are being attacked? One of our righty friends(you?) finally admitted the truth and said this was another crusades.

Still waiting on the same number of Muslims to protest terrorism that protest a GDamn Mohammed cartoon.

You f'n idiot, if we're ever taken over by them, you hedonistic idiots on the left will be the first ones they kill. Yeah, hate Christians, who have provided you with a FREE nation, actually, ALL Christian nations are free, and love Muslims. ........ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive. you f'n idiot.

You liberals have severe mental issues.

Oh Rebel.You crack me up everytime I read your posts. Sure, they would kill off the left first. You extremist Christians on the right are much more like them than us. Of course, having them take over our country is hilarious however, I could see the Christian extremists taking over. It got a big foothold under Bush.

As for the first part, that is because you watch a news station that doesn't show the other side. Faux knows you fear the Muslimsand want to keep it that way so they rarely if ever show you the other side.

File this under famous last words. No matter how many times you see Islamists and their ilk try to polarize society in order to take over, you still seem blind to the fact that voices of "tolerance" and "moderation" will be the first to go.

(01-03-2010 01:50 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Do you know how long it's been since I tuned in to any news station, you f'n loon?
ANY majority Christian nation that's considered "oppressive". You show yourself to be a complete idiot with your stupidass analysis. ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive.

I know I'm not RobertN but I can never resist a good challenge.

Northern Ireland (although not as much lately)
Venezuela (and probably other South/Central American countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)
Russia & Georgia (and probably other similar countries but I can never remember which ones there are anymore)
Zimbabwe (and probably other African countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)


It's not just the religion.

(01-05-2010 01:39 PM)jh Wrote:  

(01-03-2010 01:50 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Do you know how long it's been since I tuned in to any news station, you f'n loon?
ANY majority Christian nation that's considered "oppressive". You show yourself to be a complete idiot with your stupidass analysis. ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive.

I know I'm not RobertN but I can never resist a good challenge.

Northern Ireland (although not as much lately)
Venezuela (and probably other South/Central American countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)
Russia & Georgia (and probably other similar countries but I can never remember which ones there are anymore)
Zimbabwe (and probably other African countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)


It's not just the religion.

You're saying all of those are "Christian" nations?

(01-05-2010 01:39 PM)jh Wrote:  

(01-03-2010 01:50 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Do you know how long it's been since I tuned in to any news station, you f'n loon?
ANY majority Christian nation that's considered "oppressive". You show yourself to be a complete idiot with your stupidass analysis. ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive.

I know I'm not RobertN but I can never resist a good challenge.

Northern Ireland (although not as much lately)
Venezuela (and probably other South/Central American countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)
Russia & Georgia (and probably other similar countries but I can never remember which ones there are anymore)
Zimbabwe (and probably other African countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)


It's not just the religion.

Are there any Muslim countries that anybody would prefer to live in, raise a family in vs. so called Christian nations? FWIW Christians have been run out of virtually every nation where the Muslim population reaches over 50%. Christians used to live in Muslim middle east countries. Sharia Law dominates these countries. Diversity does not exist.

(01-05-2010 01:39 PM)jh Wrote:  

(01-03-2010 01:50 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Do you know how long it's been since I tuned in to any news station, you f'n loon?
ANY majority Christian nation that's considered "oppressive". You show yourself to be a complete idiot with your stupidass analysis. ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive.

I know I'm not RobertN but I can never resist a good challenge.

Northern Ireland (although not as much lately)
Venezuela (and probably other South/Central American countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)
Russia & Georgia (and probably other similar countries but I can never remember which ones there are anymore)
Zimbabwe (and probably other African countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)


It's not just the religion.

The countries you list have a majority populace who may consider themselves Christian, but the religion is not intensely integrated into government policy as it is in Muslim countries such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.

As for your list...

Northern Ireland - Part of the UK that is still under London's umbrella. Not a Christian theocracy.
Venezuela - Oppressive due to Chavez' radical socialism. Not a Christian theocracy.
Russia and Georgia - Oppressive due to corrupt government officials who practice crony capitalism mixed with the authoritarian days of the old Soviet Union. Not a Christian theocracy.
Zimbabwe - Oppressive due to Marxist Mugabe's authoritarian rule. Not a Christian theocracy.

(01-02-2010 09:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Yea! Lets kill all the Muslims because they are all terrorists! That is the rights answer to our problems.

Outrageous strawman. Suggesting that Europe is too tolerant of Muslim immigration hardly equates to desiring genocide.

It isn't the number of Muslim immigrants that's the "problem", it's the intentions of a very vocal minority of them who wish to eventually chip away at Europe's classical liberalism and replace it with pockets of Sharia Law.

Many Europeans, the left-leaning politicians and academics in particular, are obsessed with guilt over their forefathers' two world wars and colonizations and have little "fight" in them to defend those freedoms.

(01-05-2010 03:23 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(01-02-2010 09:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Yea! Lets kill all the Muslims because they are all terrorists! That is the rights answer to our problems.

Outrageous strawman. Suggesting that Europe is too tolerant of Muslim immigration hardly equates to desiring genocide.

It isn't the number of Muslim immigrants that's the "problem", it's the intentions of a very vocal minority of them who wish to eventually chip away at Europe's classical liberalism and replace it with pockets of Sharia Law.

Many Europeans, the left-leaning politicians and academics in particular, are obsessed with guilt over their forefathers' two world wars and colonizations and have little "fight" in them to defend those freedoms.

It doesn't strike me that there is much left of Europe's "classical" liberalism. I believe the immigrants are chipping away at the contemporary liberalism. And it is this liberalism that lacks the will and moral foundation to resist.

(01-05-2010 03:12 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(01-05-2010 01:39 PM)jh Wrote:  

(01-03-2010 01:50 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Do you know how long it's been since I tuned in to any news station, you f'n loon?
ANY majority Christian nation that's considered "oppressive". You show yourself to be a complete idiot with your stupidass analysis. ALL majority Muslim nations are oppressive.

I know I'm not RobertN but I can never resist a good challenge.

Northern Ireland (although not as much lately)
Venezuela (and probably other South/Central American countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)
Russia & Georgia (and probably other similar countries but I can never remember which ones there are anymore)
Zimbabwe (and probably other African countries but I can never remember which ones are at any given time)


It's not just the religion.

The countries you list have a majority populace who may consider themselves Christian, but the religion is not intensely integrated into government policy as it is in Muslim countries such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.

As for your list...

Northern Ireland - Part of the UK that is still under London's umbrella. Not a Christian theocracy.
Venezuela - Oppressive due to Chavez' radical socialism. Not a Christian theocracy.
Russia and Georgia - Oppressive due to corrupt government officials who practice crony capitalism mixed with the authoritarian days of the old Soviet Union. Not a Christian theocracy.
Zimbabwe - Oppressive due to Marxist Mugabe's authoritarian rule. Not a Christian theocracy.

There are no modern Christian Theocracies (outside of the Vatican). Rebel's litmus test is maybe a bit over the top - there is still 1990s Serbia and most of South America in the late 1900s (Argentina, Chile, etc, which definitely would be oppressive). It is disingenuous to claim that the Christianity of a nation precludes it from being oppressive - I suspect there is only one poster here that would make that argument.

Christianity is but one tool that despots will exploit to exert control over a population. This is markedly different from those who are inspired to murder what they view as infidels and co-religionists in order to impose Sharia or any other religious law. While I'm sure you could find a myriad of background noise (Aryan nation types) who advocate and/or act to impose Christian religious law over the past few centuries, I'd be hard pressed to name any that have come close to rising to power through violence since the demise of the Catholic Church's dominion over European government. If Blackwater is the best you can do, then you've got a pretty bankrupt argument.

Not once did I say that any of the nations on my list were Christian theocracies (as far as I know there aren't any Christian theocracies left, except maybe the Vatican City). Rebel asked for majority Christian nations with oppressive governments. That's about the population, not the government, My list was a small sample of the available nations where the majority of the population is Christian and the government is considered oppressive.

Turkey is an example of a majority Islamic nation (I'm sure there are others too) where the government is not considered repressive, so both parts of his claim are false. And, just like with Christian nations, Muslim nations can be oppressive for a variety of reasons. The Iraqi government was repressive because Saddam was a bloodthirsty bastard, not because he was Muslim.