Quote:For "2012," Emmerich set his sites on destroying the some biggest landmarks around the world, from Rome to Rio. But there's one place that Emmerich wanted to demolish but didn't: the Kaaba, the cube-shaped structure located in the center of Mecca. It's the focus of prayers and the site of the Hajj, the biggest, most important pilgrimage in Islam.

"Well, I wanted to do that, I have to admit," the filmmaker told scifiwire.com. "But my co-writer Harald [Kloser] said, 'I will not have a fatwa on my head because of a movie.' And he was right."

Emmerich went on: "We have to all, in the western world, think about this. You can actually let Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa, and that sounds a little bit like what the state of this world is. So it's just something which I kind of didn't [think] was [an] important element, anyway, in the film, so I kind of left it out."

Traditionally, a fatwa has meant religious opinion by an Islamic scholar or imam. The term has gained currency in the West after Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini issued a death sentence in the form of a fatwa against British author Salman Rushdie for alleged blasphemies in his book "The Satanic Verses" in 1989. As a result, the Indian-born writer was forced into hiding for most of the '90s.

Emmerich has no qualms about wrecking other major landmarks, however. The massive dome of St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican rolls on top of a crowd of churchgoers. The huge Christ the Redeemer statue that looms over Rio de Janeiro disintegrates. And, of course, the White House gets crushed when a wave drops the aircraft carrier John F. Kennedy on top of it.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-ta...fatwa.html

Yeah, funny how we're incessently reminded of the Salem Witch trial urban legend proving how evil Chrisitians are, but these guys are genuinely afraid of their lives when it comes to muslims. But that's ok.

Urban legend?

(11-04-2009 03:08 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Urban legend?

Many of the details are mistaken or omitted.

Emmerich seems more common sense than appeasing....

This is what guns are for. So that when this ****** tries to take my head off because I exercised my God given rights, I fuckin blow his ass away.

Another movie on my "Must Miss" list.

Danny Glover is the President. Enough said. I'll be keeping my duckets.

(11-04-2009 03:32 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 03:08 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Urban legend?

Many of the details are mistaken or omitted.

I'd concede that "salem witch trials" long ago assumed a metaphorical meaning that lost touch with the historical events, but the actual events were pretty ridiculous and were plenty bad enough. To call it an urban legend seems to pretend that nothing happened, which is just as bad a distortion. And, my view of the whole thing is that it was more of a sociological nightmare than a religious one, but religion did play a central role.

(11-05-2009 11:50 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 03:32 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 03:08 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Urban legend?

Many of the details are mistaken or omitted.

I'd concede that "salem witch trials" long ago assumed a metaphorical meaning that lost touch with the historical events, but the actual events were pretty ridiculous and were plenty bad enough. To call it an urban legend seems to pretend that nothing happened, which is just as bad a distortion.

Ok. I don't think we're arguing over this. "Much of the current description and understanding of those events, in particular related to Christianity, is more akin to urban legend than truth."

Is that fair to say?

That's a pretty broad statement, but at least I'd understand what you meant if you said it.

(11-04-2009 03:08 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Urban legend?

You have to forgive him. Despite his name, he isn't very bright.

(11-05-2009 12:06 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-05-2009 11:50 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 03:32 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 03:08 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Urban legend?

Many of the details are mistaken or omitted.

I'd concede that "salem witch trials" long ago assumed a metaphorical meaning that lost touch with the historical events, but the actual events were pretty ridiculous and were plenty bad enough. To call it an urban legend seems to pretend that nothing happened, which is just as bad a distortion.

Ok. I don't think we're arguing over this. "Much of the current description and understanding of those events, in particular related to Christianity, is more akin to urban legend than truth."

Is that fair to say?

"Urban legend" was plenty accurate. Over a period of what, a few months, people were accused. Some were arrested. Some of those tried. Some of that number convicted. And an ever decreasing number, were killed. I think they were all hung. Then popular culture took over and created the urban legend. But we are a people who like getting our history from Hollywood, vs. say... history.

(11-05-2009 02:03 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(11-05-2009 12:06 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-05-2009 11:50 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 03:32 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 03:08 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Urban legend?

Many of the details are mistaken or omitted.

I'd concede that "salem witch trials" long ago assumed a metaphorical meaning that lost touch with the historical events, but the actual events were pretty ridiculous and were plenty bad enough. To call it an urban legend seems to pretend that nothing happened, which is just as bad a distortion.

Ok. I don't think we're arguing over this. "Much of the current description and understanding of those events, in particular related to Christianity, is more akin to urban legend than truth."

Is that fair to say?

"Urban legend" was plenty accurate. Over a period of what, a few months, people were accused. Some were arrested. Some of those tried. Some of that number convicted. And an ever decreasing number, were killed. I think they were all hung. Then popular culture took over and created the urban legend. But we are a people who like getting our history from Hollywood, vs. say... history.

What is the urban legend here? Is there anyone saying that millions of virgins in New England were killed?

(11-05-2009 02:30 PM)I45owl Wrote:  What is the urban legend here? Is there anyone saying that millions of virgins in New England were killed?

Anyone HERE saying that? Not that I'm aware of. I've never heard anyone claim millions of virgins killed, but, idiots claim millions killed in Iraq, so...

But I do have RobertN on ignore, so I'm not positive no one here is making false claims.

Torch just said most of what people believe about that bit of history is false. I just agreed.

(11-05-2009 03:59 PM)Paul M Wrote:  But I do have RobertN on ignore, so I'm not positive no one here is making false claims.

Ignore? Why? Like Pelosi, Biden and the Big O I like to hear what they say because more often than not they insert a foot or two into their mouths.

(11-05-2009 04:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-05-2009 03:59 PM)Paul M Wrote:  But I do have RobertN on ignore, so I'm not positive no one here is making false claims.

Ignore? Why? Like Pelosi, Biden and the Big O I like to hear what they say because more often than not they insert a foot or two into their mouths.

Those other people affect our lives so I listen to them too. Robert is an insignificant piss stain in the dirt.