49%? WTF does it matter? We have NO say in what goes on anyway. Regardless of which gang member is at the helm of the ship of state...the ship gets less and less able to stay afloat.

The tipping point of sinking is approaching.

(07-25-2009 10:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-25-2009 09:58 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-25-2009 09:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Regardless what the polls show today or even next year I have absolutely no doubt Obama will get his ass kicked in 2012 and the dems in 2010.

By who? Palin?

A fire hydrant could beat him.

In your dreams.

(07-25-2009 10:33 PM)OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:  Obama will be tied to the economy just like Jimmy Carter was. If we are still looking at double digit unemployment and massive deficits in 4 years it won't matter who Republicans nominate. People will have seen enough just like they did after 8 years of Bush. Obama is gonna be judged on the economy period. Economy relected Reagan, Clinton, and George W Bush. Its really that simple. People really don't care about anything but the economy. Unless Obama finds a way to grow the economy he will be one and done. Obama hitting the wealthy so hard with taxes will doom his relection chances. Rich people buy homes and new home construction. That won't improve with these policies any time soon. Who can afford a new 500k home with Obama's taxes? Who can afford to buy a 50k new car or truck? These companies are only making earnings by cost cutting not growth. These big companies can only cut so much.

In other words, the rich get richer and the middle class and poor get "trickled on" by the rich. I hope you are rich because if you aren't, you will get trickled on too.

7/26/09 Obama -11. It looks like the bottom is starting to drop out.

Sunday, July 26, 2009

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 29% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11. That’s the first time his ratings have reached double digits in negative territory (see trends).

These updates are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. Today is the first update based entirely upon interviews conducted after the President’s prime time televised press conference. The number who Strongly Approve of the President has remained unchanged since the press conference but the number who Strongly Disapprove has gone up by five percentage points (from 35% on Wednesday morning to 40% today).

The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). Updates also available on Twitter.

The President received generally poor grades for his response to a question about a Cambridge police incident involving a black Harvard professor. However, the results show a huge divide between black Americans and white Americans on all questions.

Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove. It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama’s numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters. That’s because some of the President’s most enthusiastic supporters, such as young adults, are less likely to turn out to vote.

The President is now seen as politically liberal by 76%. That’s up six points from a month ago, 11 points since he was elected, and the highest total to date. Forty-eight percent (48%) now see him as Very Liberal, up 20 points since he was elected

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...cking_poll

(07-26-2009 10:35 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  7/26/09 Obama -11. It looks like the bottom is starting to drop out.

Sunday, July 26, 2009

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 29% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11. That’s the first time his ratings have reached double digits in negative territory (see trends).

These updates are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. Today is the first update based entirely upon interviews conducted after the President’s prime time televised press conference. The number who Strongly Approve of the President has remained unchanged since the press conference but the number who Strongly Disapprove has gone up by five percentage points (from 35% on Wednesday morning to 40% today).

The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). Updates also available on Twitter.

The President received generally poor grades for his response to a question about a Cambridge police incident involving a black Harvard professor. However, the results show a huge divide between black Americans and white Americans on all questions.

Overall, 49% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove. It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama’s numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters. That’s because some of the President’s most enthusiastic supporters, such as young adults, are less likely to turn out to vote.

The President is now seen as politically liberal by 76%. That’s up six points from a month ago, 11 points since he was elected, and the highest total to date. Forty-eight percent (48%) now see him as Very Liberal, up 20 points since he was elected

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...cking_poll

Congratulations Rush. You may be destrying the man AND our country. I hope you are satisfied you ******* moron.

Robert,

First of all, if a pissant like Rush is capable of destroying Obama, then there wasn't much there to begin with, was there?

Second, you obviously equate Obama succeeds=US succeeds and Obama fails=US fails.
After taking a hard look at everything he is trying to do, I see none of the changes on Obama's agenda that will have any effect other than to make things worse.
Therefore, I see it as Obama succeeds=US fails and Obama fails=US succeeds.
I want the US to succeed.

Wow! 49% fourth lowest approval rating of any POTUS since WWII, and his wreckless policies haven't even had time to WRECK the country.

(07-26-2009 01:21 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Robert,

First of all, if a pissant like Rush is capable of destroying Obama, then there wasn't much there to begin with, was there?

Second, you obviously equate Obama succeeds=US succeeds and Obama fails=US fails.
After taking a hard look at everything he is trying to do, I see none of the changes on Obama's agenda that will have any effect other than to make things worse.
Therefore, I see it as Obama succeeds=US fails and Obama fails=US succeeds.
I want the US to succeed.

It is your opinion that Obamas agendais making things worse. As you guys keep pointing out, he has only been in office a short time so it is too early to tell how his policies will turn out. As long as we have continual slow to moderate growth without the bubbles, this country will be better off. I know you righties LOVE rapid growth, rapid profits and rapid wealth but if we look back, your philosophy is just a bubble economy and occasionally bubbles burst partly causing what we have today.

(07-26-2009 03:08 PM)RobertN Wrote:  It is your opinion that Obamas agendais making things worse. As you guys keep pointing out, he has only been in office a short time so it is too early to tell how his policies will turn out. As long as we have continual slow to moderate growth without the bubbles, this country will be better off. I know you righties LOVE rapid growth, rapid profits and rapid wealth but if we look back, your philosophy is just a bubble economy and occasionally bubbles burst partly causing what we have today.

Actually it is not my opinion that Obama's agenda is making things as bad now as it will in the future. Although not a rightie on social issues, I am on economic issues. I do prefer steady growth to overheating, unlike your characterization. I certainly don't have much good to say about Shrub's economic policy. It is my opinion that Obama's agenda will not produce continual slow to moderate growth, because it cannot.

When the "stimulus" has fully kicked in, and Obamacare is in place, and Cap-and-Trade has been passed without any offsetting tax relief elsewhere, America will not be just an unfriendly environment for business, it will be an impossible environment for business. At that point, the only businesses that will be able to stay here are retail and service businesses serving the domestic economy. Your McDonald's and your auto repair place and the like will stay here; I can't order a burger from India, or drop my car off in Switzerland to get the brakes replaced. We'll have service jobs and retail jobs and government jobs and no other jobs.

For anybody engaged in multinational trade, particularly manufacturing for overseas markets, it will be economic suicide to remain in the US. The numbers are just that bad, unless the rest of the world decides to shoot themselves in their collective feet. They won't. They see what we're doing, and they can't wait. Why do you think they all like Obama so much?

I wish I could believe a different result will occur. I simply cannot.

That is, as you note, my opinion. Why don't you explain why you thing Obamanomics will work. In a few years we'll see who is right.

(07-24-2009 12:14 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-24-2009 11:37 AM)GGniner Wrote:  It's also pathetic sign that people take him as seriously as they do and actually "Trust" him to be honest. He's a parody of the 'news' in more ways than one.

I don't take any comedian seriously.....He is funny though.

Ding ding!

(07-25-2009 10:33 PM)OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:  Obama will be tied to the economy just like Jimmy Carter was. If we are still looking at double digit unemployment and massive deficits in 4 years it won't matter who Republicans nominate. People will have seen enough just like they did after 8 years of Bush. Obama is gonna be judged on the economy period. Economy relected Reagan, Clinton, and George W Bush. Its really that simple. People really don't care about anything but the economy.

Aside from the bolded part, that's the first thing you've ever said on here that I agree with. Instead of the bolded part, I would say that if the economy recovers, Obama wins in a landslide. If it doesn't, he's in for a fight, unless the republicans do nominate a fire hydrant/sarah palin, on which case they're just conceding.

I think what's shaping up is one of those elections where republicans could win if only they didn't have to nominate someone. There aren't any really compelling figures in the republican stable of candidates.

If the economy really does recover, Obama will be reelected easily.
If things rock along about where they are now, it will be a close call.
If things are materially worse, and I think they will be, the republicans will have to screw it up badly not to win.

I don't rule out the possibility that they will screw it up.
I also don't see a republican out there who's necessarily going to make things a lot better.
I do believe that the sooner the republicans repudiate Shrub and get a real message put together, the better off they will be.
They are going to have a hard time winning a personality contest, so they'd better get to the issues.
And the democrats are screwing things up enough to give them plenty of issues.

(07-27-2009 09:08 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think what's shaping up is one of those elections where republicans could win if only they didn't have to nominate someone. There aren't any really compelling figures in the republican stable of candidates.

If the economy really does recover, Obama will be reelected easily.
If things rock along about where they are now, it will be a close call.
If things are materially worse, and I think they will be, the republicans will have to screw it up badly not to win.

I don't rule out the possibility that they will screw it up.
I also don't see a republican out there who's necessarily going to make things a lot better.
I do believe that the sooner the republicans repudiate Shrub and get a real message put together, the better off they will be.
They are going to have a hard time winning a personality contest, so they'd better get to the issues.
And the democrats are screwing things up enough to give them plenty of issues.

Again, your screwing things up" is only an opinion. There are many who think his policies are a positive for this country. Many see that having a safety net is a good thing. I know you guys hate safety nets and hope people become homeless and hungry when the economy goes bad(cheap houses for the greedy) but some people think having that happen is not a good thing.

Robert,

If you had bothered to read my posts, you would know that the criticism you attempt to level is way off base.
I think I'm owed an apology, but I doubt you're a big enough person to offer one.
As for my opinion, yes it's an opinion.
Let's see you put yours on the table and check back in a couple of years to see who's right.

(07-27-2009 10:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Robert,

If you had bothered to read my posts, you would know that the criticism you attempt to level is way off base.
I think I'm owed an apology, but I doubt you're a big enough person to offer one.
As for my opinion, yes it's an opinion.
Let's see you put yours on the table and check back in a couple of years to see who's right.

I am sorry. Please forgive me. I know you are the worlds best economist so your opinion is the only one needed.