Yesterday Obama said again: "If you like your current plan, you will be able to keep it. Let me repeat that: If you like your plan, you'll be able to keep it."

This isn't remotely close to true, atleast 80 Million people will be forced out of their current plans.


"Americans will be able to compare the price and quality of different plans, and pick the plan that they want." - Barack Obama

another lie

Will the MSM call him on it?

(07-22-2009 09:19 AM)GGniner Wrote:  Yesterday Obama said again: "If you like your current plan, you will be able to keep it. Let me repeat that: If you like your plan, you'll be able to keep it."
This isn't remotely close to true, atleast 80 Million people will be forced out of their current plans.
"Americans will be able to compare the price and quality of different plans, and pick the plan that they want." - Barack Obama
another lie
Will the MSM call him on it?

You mean, like they've called him on all the other lies?

The ease with which this man can lie is astonishing.

This is like Clinton's repeating "I did not have sex" even after everybody knew it. Everybody knows Obama is lying, well, save a few lame brains, and yet he persists.

They beleive their lies are "Noble"

they are the "Philospher Kings" or "Guardians" in Plato's Republic, i.e. smarter than the rest of us. So to get this bill through, if lying is what it takes, the End Justifies the Means.

Couldn't get away with it if not for the MSM though.

Obama Admits He's Foggy on Healthcare Bill

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:29 PM

By: David A. Patten

Members of Congress haven't read the 1,018-page proposed healthcare-reform legislation, but then, apparently neither has President Obama.

The president recently confessed he is "not familiar" with key provisions of the legislation.

According to a Heritage Foundation post, Obama's embarrassing admission came during a conference call with left-leaning bloggers.

Obama urged the bloggers to continue pressuring Congress to pass health-care reform immediately. During that call, Heritage reports, a blogger referenced an article in Investor's Business Daily indicating Section 102 of the House bill would "outlaw" private insurance.

"Is this true?" the blogger asked Obama. "Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?"

The president's response on behalf of the legislation he is pushing through Congress: "You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about."

That response prompted the think tank to state: "This is a truly disturbing admission by the president, especially considering that later in the call, Obama promises yet again: 'If you have health insurance, and you like it, and you have a doctor that you like, then you can keep it. Period.'"

The rhetorical question posed by Heritage: "How can Obama keep making this promise if he is not familiar with the health legislation that is being written in Congress?"

No version of the legislation now under consideration "outlaws" private insurance coverage. However, it increases its cost relative to publicly subsidized plans in a way that leads some experts to believe private insurance would no longer be a viable option.

A Heritage-Lewin Group report released Monday found that close to 100 million policy holders may be forced to change insurance plans if Congress passes the bill supported by Obama.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama...ode=83DB-1

Pacemaker? Take the pain pill, go home and die, and stop wasting my time, lady.

I cannot understand why people do not see this for the lie that it is.

Obama says you can keep your plan, but does not say at what cost. Or a set cost. Employers will raise the cost to you to try and minimize the cost to their companies. They will PUSH you into Government Health Care.

And it won't be 80 million people, closer to 100 million within 3 years.

This is not about Health Care for People, it is about a takeover of the HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY. Why do you not see that.

(07-22-2009 03:15 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  This is not about Health Care for People, it is about a takeover of the HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY. Why do you not see that.

Because Obama is making it sound like the people who think they've been getting screwed now get something for nothing.

Quote:“To be truthful means using the customary metaphor — in moral terms: the obligation to lie according to a fixed convention, to lie herdlike in a style obligatory for all.”

— Friedrich Nietzsche

heavy

(07-22-2009 09:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  The ease with which this man can lie is astonishing.

This is like Clinton's repeating "I did not have sex" even after everybody knew it. Everybody knows Obama is lying, well, save a few lame brains, and yet he persists.

Remember.... It's not a lie if he believes it...

(07-23-2009 06:55 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-22-2009 09:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  The ease with which this man can lie is astonishing.

This is like Clinton's repeating "I did not have sex" even after everybody knew it. Everybody knows Obama is lying, well, save a few lame brains, and yet he persists.

Remember.... It's not a lie if he believes it...

It's worse if he believes it - it means he's really stupid.

(07-22-2009 01:33 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Pacemaker? Take the pain pill, go home and die, and stop wasting my time, lady.

Truly a heartless bastard, yet he will not put his family on the same plan he is trying to force 300million Americans on.

The lies from ALL these control freaks come so often...I just do not have time to even be concerned.

There is not one damn thing I can do about this anyway. Obama like the kings before him do whatever in the hell they want. Let's not forget that even though the phone calls, faxes and emails were 9 to 1 against the 1st TARP bailout the GW proposed.....They did it anyway.

Anyone that thinks that they have ANY control over what these scumbag gang members in Washington do...needs serious mental therapy.

(07-23-2009 09:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The lies from ALL these control freaks come so often...I just do not have time to even be concerned.

There is not one damn thing I can do about this anyway. Obama like the kings before him do whatever in the hell they want. Let's not forget that even though the phone calls, faxes and emails were 9 to 1 against the 1st TARP bailout the GW proposed.....They did it anyway.

Anyone that thinks that they have ANY control over what these scumbag gang members in Washington do...needs serious mental therapy.

You may well be right. And I particularly like the "gang" analogy. But Obama is not a king I'm not going down to defeat without putting up a fight. These guys and gals in Congress are despicable and I want them to know that I know it.

A woman actually asking the ObamaMessiah if he will allow her mother to live. Forget the Pacemaker, we will give you a painkiller for you to get hooked on. Just go away and die. Sounds like Nazi Germany.

What a buffoon.

LOL

The media conveniently forgot to ask Bush about the WMD's and torture. Now we have to go back and correct the wrongdoings of the Bush era, because there was crime committed.

Conservative double-standard. They always bash Clinton, but Clinton never sent troops to die over lies. The Party of Values, my @$$.

Conservatives worship money, that is their god.

I see the Cartoon is back

(07-24-2009 04:04 AM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  LOL

The media conveniently forgot to ask Bush about the WMD's and torture. Now we have to go back and correct the wrongdoings of the Bush era, because there was crime committed.

Conservative double-standard. They always bash Clinton, but Clinton never sent troops to die over lies. The Party of Values, my @$$.

Conservatives worship money, that is their god.

Ask the Kennedy's about the worship of money.