http://www.fox8.com/news/wjw-news-arrest...4398.story

Well I guess he shoulda stopped when asked. I'm more of an expert on stuff off of the coast.

(07-02-2009 08:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Well I guess he shoulda stopped when asked. I'm more of an expert on stuff off of the coast.

I just got a kick out of the cop..."We sympathized with the guy..but..he did not comply" So... really he did not have any sympathy with the guy...it was ALL about CONTROL.
I know I'm a pain in the ass when it comes to the government and am somewhat silly at times...but...I have become so aware of the things they say and the sheer nonsense of many of their statements that I am now constantly amazed at what they say. Im sure the cop meant well...but...he had NO concept of the absurdity of his statement.

(07-02-2009 08:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Well I guess he shoulda stopped when asked. I'm more of an expert on stuff off of the coast.

Where are you stationed Nomad? My dad was a coastie...during the Korean war. The recruiting office in Durham opened up and he and a buddy drove over to enlist rather than get drafted. Dad was stationed in NO on a buoy tender in the Mississippi and later in Galveston... his buddy ended up on an ice station and went stir crazy. Luck of the draw I guess.
I spent all my childhood waking up to..."OK BOY...HIT THE DECK":lmfao:

No good deed goes unpunished.

Right now I'm at Ft. Myers. Sure beats the heck out of my first station in Kodiak. Needless to say, painting the station in the cold sucks a little. And the ladies of Alaska are pretty much a hit and miss.

(07-02-2009 09:34 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Right now I'm at Ft. Myers. Sure beats the heck out of my first station in Kodiak. Needless to say, painting the station in the cold sucks a little. And the ladies of Alaska are pretty much a hit and miss.

I want to visit AK after I retire. My parents went from NC to AK in a camper several years ago...all the way above Denali. My dad still says it was one of the highlights of his life. They went back and took the cruise to Sitka and the overland train trip...also had a wonderful time.

Good luck in Ft. Myers....I would think female pickings there should be good. Think about coming up for the military appreciation game at ECU this fall...Ill throw on some ribs for you at my tailgate.

I hate situations like this, but unfortunately the city was right. They needed to stop him, however perverse and ridiculous it seems. Blame our overly litigious society. There is potential liability for this. He needed to go through the proper buearacracy.

That said, I would have done the same thing he did. I've mowed other lawns in my own neighborhood rather than dealing with the city or deadbeat owners. He's just going to get his wrist slapped.

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Kline also says there are employee issues with UNIONS that are supposed to cut the grass that had to be considered.

Now we get to the Absolute Crux of the Matter and the Absolute Real Reason for the Arrest.

If you can't live with a Union, don't worry, they will find a way to get Rid of YOU.

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(07-03-2009 07:56 AM)Artifice Wrote:  I hate situations like this, but unfortunately the city was right. They needed to stop him, however perverse and ridiculous it seems. Blame our overly litigious society. There is potential liability for this. He needed to go through the proper buearacracy.

That said, I would have done the same thing he did. I've mowed other lawns in my own neighborhood rather than dealing with the city or deadbeat owners. He's just going to get his wrist slapped.

Yes.....We must obey at all times and go through the proper bureaucracy...or they will put you in a jail cell...even for mowing grass that the bureaucracy failed in its duty to maintain. This is a perfect example of government doing what it does best. Control without conscience.

I am not joking here.....I would refuse to pay any fine and make them jail me for mowing grass...just to make a point to show how violent and evil the system is. This is beyond nonsense.

(07-03-2009 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-03-2009 07:56 AM)Artifice Wrote:  I hate situations like this, but unfortunately the city was right. They needed to stop him, however perverse and ridiculous it seems. Blame our overly litigious society. There is potential liability for this. He needed to go through the proper buearacracy.

That said, I would have done the same thing he did. I've mowed other lawns in my own neighborhood rather than dealing with the city or deadbeat owners. He's just going to get his wrist slapped.

Yes.....We must obey at all times and go through the proper bureaucracy...or they will put you in a jail cell...even for mowing grass that the bureaucracy failed in its duty to maintain. This is a perfect example of government doing what it does best. Control without conscience.

I am not joking here.....I would refuse to pay any fine and make them jail me for mowing grass...just to make a point to show how violent and evil the system is. This is beyond nonsense.

Given that this isn't far from my home town, I commented on this in my hometown's newspaper. And Fo, you're starting to have a big effect on me. Because while others were commenting on how ridiculous it was, I was pointing out that this is a perfect example of petty bureaucrats wresting for control.

If it was his own yard, he'd be fined. It's the city's and they can't be shown to be incompotent, so they punish this man.

There was a time in this country that people were expected to do for themselves. They built schools, post offices, etc. Now they can't even clean up a public park.

(07-03-2009 07:56 AM)Artifice Wrote:  I hate situations like this, but unfortunately the city was right.

You're an idiot.

Quote:Blame our overly litigious society. There is potential liability for this. He needed to go through the proper buearacracy.

No, we need to get to the root cause, the bureaucracy.

(07-03-2009 09:15 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(07-03-2009 07:56 AM)Artifice Wrote:  I hate situations like this, but unfortunately the city was right.

You're an idiot.

I'd say that it takes one to know one, but you just disproved that. Apparently a blubbering simpleton just projects his own inadequacies on others.

I'll dumb that down for you - you're not only stupid, but you're a petty douchebag as well.

Quote:

Quote:Blame our overly litigious society. There is potential liability for this. He needed to go through the proper buearacracy.

No, we need to get to the root cause, the bureaucracy.

You obviously cannot identify the causal chain here. If it werent for a litigious society, potential liability wouldn't be a concern. If you cannot follow such simple logic, then please stay in the baby pool.

Who makes possible our litigious society? And liability?

(07-03-2009 09:35 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Who makes possible our litigious society? And liability?

Every member of the populace that is looking to make a fast buck are the chief culprit. The plaintiff's whores who service them are just parasites trading on our own lack of morality.

If you're trying to blame the legislature, you're wrong. Tort actions arise from the common law. Though some is codified now, it has always been our court systems that provided the forum.

Ultimately, the weakness is the lack of morality in our populace. But people like to point fingers instead of taking individual responsibility for being greedy and opportunistic.

(07-03-2009 09:14 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(07-03-2009 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-03-2009 07:56 AM)Artifice Wrote:  I hate situations like this, but unfortunately the city was right. They needed to stop him, however perverse and ridiculous it seems. Blame our overly litigious society. There is potential liability for this. He needed to go through the proper buearacracy.

That said, I would have done the same thing he did. I've mowed other lawns in my own neighborhood rather than dealing with the city or deadbeat owners. He's just going to get his wrist slapped.

Yes.....We must obey at all times and go through the proper bureaucracy...or they will put you in a jail cell...even for mowing grass that the bureaucracy failed in its duty to maintain. This is a perfect example of government doing what it does best. Control without conscience.

I am not joking here.....I would refuse to pay any fine and make them jail me for mowing grass...just to make a point to show how violent and evil the system is. This is beyond nonsense.

Given that this isn't far from my home town, I commented on this in my hometown's newspaper. And Fo, you're starting to have a big effect on me. Because while others were commenting on how ridiculous it was, I was pointing out that this is a perfect example of petty bureaucrats wresting for control.

If it was his own yard, he'd be fined. It's the city's and they can't be shown to be incompotent, so they punish this man.

There was a time in this country that people were expected to do for themselves. They built schools, post offices, etc. Now they can't even clean up a public park.

Great observation...This is just one of many arbitrary rules that bureaucrats come up with that of course they don't have to follow. They can let the grass grow and leave public property in disrepair without consequences..

Around here they make the Probationers doing community service mow the grass in parks. You see them all the time in their little vest that says "Community Service" on it.

(07-03-2009 08:11 AM)Tripster Wrote:  .

Kline also says there are employee issues with UNIONS that are supposed to cut the grass that had to be considered.

Now we get to the Absolute Crux of the Matter and the Absolute Real Reason for the Arrest.

If you can't live with a Union, don't worry, they will find a way to get Rid of YOU.

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I believe you hit the nail right on the head. At a time when every town, county and state is looking for ways to save money only someone with a union "I come first" mentality would make a big deal of someone doing work for free.

John Hamilton (with a name like that he should run for mayor) demands trial by jury, city drops charges. Case Closed.

(07-05-2009 07:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  John Hamilton (with a name like that he should run for mayor) demands trial by jury, city drops charges. Case Closed.

Good for him. This was a public relations nightmare for the system.

Can you imagine what would happen if everyone demanded a trial instead of bowing down and paying the fine for these arbitrary rules? The system would implode upon itself in a matter of days. It would have to relegate itself almost exclusively to crimes that involved an actual victim.