(02-19-2009 12:58 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 11:06 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 11:01 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  On second thought, I would think that it is a good thing that someone doesn't know about the ape/black reference. it heralds good things about society's racist tendencies in general. But the connection is there and it would be disingenuous of anyone involved in the publication of that cartoon to act as if they didn't know that issue would be raised. it's deliberately inflammatory.

OK. Thanks for the good laugh.

Racism if funny?

Ever watch Chapelle's Show?

(02-19-2009 12:52 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 11:35 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  And please, do we have to continue being so sensitive about the whole monkey/black thing. It wasn't an attack on Obama for being part black, it was an attack on how rediculous the bill was. What other symbolism would you have preferred? A man riding on a white horse?

You may be close with that last statement..

I looked, and there was a pale horse! Its rider's name was Death, and Hades followed him. They were given authority over one-fourth of the earth to kill people using wars, famines, plagues, and the wild animals of the earth.

Revelation 6:8

Obama is close to "death" for the Capitalism and the Free Market system in the US.

Someone got my reference.

(02-19-2009 01:03 PM)Fanatical Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 12:58 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 11:06 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 11:01 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  On second thought, I would think that it is a good thing that someone doesn't know about the ape/black reference. it heralds good things about society's racist tendencies in general. But the connection is there and it would be disingenuous of anyone involved in the publication of that cartoon to act as if they didn't know that issue would be raised. it's deliberately inflammatory.

OK. Thanks for the good laugh.

Racism if funny?

Ever watch Chapelle's Show?

I didnt realize Chapelle's Show was racist.

One of my posters at my other site summed the entire issue up rather succinctly:

debk Wrote:
Black people are constantly reminding the world that they are not equal to the white people.

If they spent half as much time not thinking about being black, complaining about inequality, and pointing out to everyone else that they ARE black.....they might realize that they themselves are the ones making a big deal about "blackness"....not the white folk.

When I look at a person....the color of their skin is not the first thing I notice or even think about.

I will admit that the first thing I notice may be their behavior or their appearance....

but it is never....."hey, I'm lookin' at a black person...."

(02-19-2009 01:18 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  I didnt realize Chapelle's Show was racist.

a black white suppremacist
black Bush
a race draft
negrodamus
etc
all of this makes fun of racial steryotypes


If you can find racism in a chimp but not on the chappelle show, then we obviously cannot have a mutual conversation about race

(02-19-2009 01:38 PM)Fanatical Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 01:18 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  I didnt realize Chapelle's Show was racist.

a black white suppremacist
black Bush
a race draft
negrodamus
etc
all of this makes fun of racial steryotypes


If you can find racism in a chimp but not on the chappelle show, then we obviously cannot have a mutual conversation about race

Reparations, KFC's stock going through the roof, etc.

Chappelle's show was awesome because he wasn't afraid to point those things out. But yeah, in the racial draft I'm glad my side got Tiger Woods hahaha.

(02-19-2009 02:08 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Chappelle's show was awesome because he wasn't afraid to point those things out. But yeah, in the racial draft I'm glad my side got Tiger Woods hahaha.

Isnt' he more Asian than black? Isn't President Obama more white than black?

Obama wasn't taken in the racial draft and he's half and half anyway.

So he's a free agent?

If you wanna trade your pick. We'll return Eminem to you.

To quote Chris Rock, "The world went crazy when the best golfer is black, the tallest player in the NBA Chinese, and the best rapper white."

The era of the oppressed minority is over. But, if that's all you got, I can see why you wouldn't want to let go.

(02-19-2009 04:59 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  If you wanna trade your pick. We'll return Eminem to you.

We'll give you back Michael Jackson.

Well you must take Vanilla Ice.

(02-19-2009 06:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Well you must take Vanilla Ice.

He's turned into a motorhead anyway. That is more of a white stereotype.

(02-19-2009 12:58 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 11:06 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 11:01 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  On second thought, I would think that it is a good thing that someone doesn't know about the ape/black reference. it heralds good things about society's racist tendencies in general. But the connection is there and it would be disingenuous of anyone involved in the publication of that cartoon to act as if they didn't know that issue would be raised. it's deliberately inflammatory.

OK. Thanks for the good laugh.

Racism if funny?

I guess the cartoonist could have written "congress" with an arrow pointing at the monkey for the slow folk. That would be tragic, having to dumb down a cartoon. The caption saying "They'll have to find someone else to WRITE the next stimulus bill" should have been pretty self explanatory for the second grade.

If that one truely offended you, don't click and look at todays.

(02-20-2009 04:32 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 07:28 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 12:58 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 11:06 AM)Paul M Wrote:  [quote='niuhuskie84' pid='4006093' dateline='1235059302']
On second thought, I would think that it is a good thing that someone doesn't know about the ape/black reference. it heralds good things about society's racist tendencies in general. But the connection is there and it would be disingenuous of anyone involved in the publication of that cartoon to act as if they didn't know that issue would be raised. it's deliberately inflammatory.

OK. Thanks for the good laugh.

Racism if funny?

I guess the cartoonist could have written "congress" with an arrow pointing at the monkey for the slow folk. That would be tragic, having to dumb down a cartoon. The caption saying "They'll have to find someone else to WRITE the next stimulus bill" should have been pretty self explanatory for the second grade.

If that one truely offended you, don't click and look at todays.

Its kind of fitting that a chimp is now on the same level as Mohammad...

You draw a cartoon of either one and all sorts of hell breaks loose.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/art...2g7EW3LPdw

This is just friggin stupid.

I do not like Sharpton. He and Jackson are pretty much the worst men out there for our community right now. Their effectiveness pretty much peaked in the 60's when they were actually needed. Now they are both just men who show up when they are going to get on the news because they have no single, monumental cause right now. If they are both men of the church, they need to just sit there because black people do not need leaders right now.

(02-21-2009 01:13 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I do not like Sharpton. He and Jackson are pretty much the worst men out there for our community right now. Their effectiveness pretty much peaked in the 60's when they were actually needed. Now they are both just men who show up when they are going to get on the news because they have no single, monumental cause right now. If they are both men of the church, they need to just sit there because black people do not need leaders right now.

I've worked with Jackson on some things. The first time I met him, I was surprised that he is taller than me. IMO, he has a lot of good ideas and could do a lot of good for not only the African-American community, but the nation as a whole, if only he could stay focused on those things and not lust after the spotlight. If I were in the white house, he's one of the first people I'd invite. He could do so much good if his energies were channeled in the right direction. And I think he'd be willing to do it if he felt appreciated.