Sorry Fo, the military is a constitutionally-provided entity. "Provide for the common defense".

Don't know what you don't understand about that, but hell, I don't know what many here misunderstand about the US Constitution. I'd like it different, but it IS Constitutional.

(02-18-2009 11:57 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Sorry Fo, the military is a constitutionally-provided entity. "Provide for the common defense".

Don't know what you don't understand about that, but hell, I don't know what many here misunderstand about the US Constitution. I'd like it different, but it IS Constitutional.

If I've lead you to think that I disagree with that assertion then evidently I lack communication skills, because it agree totally..but..did the Constitution not put time limits upon how long standing armies should remain "standing". I understand all this is totally moot anyway since those in power decide what the Constitution says and basically interpret it to achieve their goals anyway. What I think is irrelevant.

I think it was assumed when they wrote the constitution that an army meant it would stand ad infinitum with the assumption the United States would stand ad infinitum.

(02-19-2009 05:55 PM)Tulsaman Wrote:  I think it was assumed when they wrote the constitution that an army meant it would stand ad infinitum with the assumption the United States would stand ad infinitum.

James Madison certainly warned us about the dangers of having a long standing army...as did other founders. I fully agree in the Constitutionality of standing armies during a time of war as they also did. It's the peacetime use of standing armies that I think are open to debate. Again...Its irrelevant anyway...since nothing will change.

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To have 24/7/365 Security, our Military must be on watch and Fully Activated around the clock.

We can't afford a full scale attack or strike and our Soldiers have to grab their gear out of the attic and from the rented storage unit. We must have a Constant Force as both a Deterrent and Aggressors when needed.

The "Well Regulated Militia" of the 2nd Amendment takes on Civilian Soldiers who are called to duty or see the need to report for duty and they grab their gear and go where they know they are supposed to muster at.

In today's man made world of Instant War, we do need a Fully Active Military backed up by the 2nd Amendment's Mandate for all Citizens to be a part of the Militia.

The reason the Politico's fight the 2nd Amendment so hard, is that it gives the Regular Joe Citizen, the Ultimate Right to Remove a Tyrannical and Illegal Government ..... since they don't teach Civics in Schools any longer and they barely teach True History anymore, Generation after Generations of Kids never learn they have the Right and Power By Right to Stand Up and SAY NO to a Non-Representative and Illegal Government.

We have way too much Raw Legal Constitutional Power to put these Criminals out of Congress and the White House .... Citizens no longer are given that information and old guys like me who have known it all my life, are dying off and this precious information dies off with us.

It is a shame in Schools, both the garbage our kids are told is Learning and Knowledge ..... and the Hidden Things allowed kids behind the backs of Parents.

During Katrina, people died because no one was smart enough to know if Yellow School System School Buses could legally be used to evacuate Victims in Danger ... so the hundreds of Buses sat and sat and sat until you could swim inside of them.

Contrast to if there were '10 Thousand' 12 to 14 Year Old School Girls who wanted a secret abortion or a secret surgery to have Norplant or some other invasive contraceptive implanted, everyone of those Buses would have been fired up and rolling pedal to the metal, all sponsored up and paid for by our fine School System.

It would have looked like School Bus NASCAR on I-10 ....

Now that is a damn shame people ....

A great day of reckoning is coming I do believe ....

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(02-20-2009 09:31 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-19-2009 05:55 PM)Tulsaman Wrote:  I think it was assumed when they wrote the constitution that an army meant it would stand ad infinitum with the assumption the United States would stand ad infinitum.

James Madison certainly warned us about the dangers of having a long standing army...as did other founders. I fully agree in the Constitutionality of standing armies during a time of war as they also did. It's the peacetime use of standing armies that I think are open to debate. Again...Its irrelevant anyway...since nothing will change.

Article I, Section 8 provides for standing armies, even in times of peace. Funding for the military was restricted to two year periods so that there would be a constant discussion of the wisdom of maintaining a standing army, along with the size thereof.

Here's where Hamilton discussed it in the Federalist Papers.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/fed/blfed26.htm