(11-07-2026 04:30 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  What is there to review on a fair catch KO?

ESPN doing a pretty good job of explaining the options... but nowhere else in the game does a 'catch' occur before the feet are on the ground... a very unusual situation.

I’m pretty sure that if you fair catch and receive the ball out of bounds or receive the ball out of bounds in anyway on a kickoff, it should be ruled as an out of bounds kickoff. Mosey made an excellent smart call and I think the refs screwed it up.

(11-07-2026 04:17 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Holy crap... If the slot even PUSHES the DE, that's a touchdown... Instead its a 20 yard sack and then a missed FG.

That's NOT on the scheme... That's on the players. I don't know if the tackle blocked down and was supposed to block 'out', but I REALLY don't understand why the wing literally got out of the way of the rushing DE to give him a free shot at the QB. Jaquirri was WIDE open for at the very least, a first... and likely a TD

Second big mistake by Mosey: Catching the going-out-of-bounds kick off by jumping OB at the Rice 8. (Rice would have gotten the ball at the 35, if he'd let the ball fly OB.)

Owls then go 3 & out. Sigh.

Wow…just so bad.

(11-07-2026 04:34 PM)NYNightOwl Wrote:  I’m pretty sure that if you fair catch and receive the ball out of bounds or receive the ball out of bounds in anyway on a kickoff, it should be ruled as an out of bounds kickoff. Mosey made an excellent smart call and I think the refs screwed it up.

Totally agree.

(11-07-2026 04:34 PM)NYNightOwl Wrote:  I’m pretty sure that if you fair catch and receive the ball out of bounds or receive the ball out of bounds in anyway on a kickoff, it should be ruled as an out of bounds kickoff. Mosey made an excellent smart call and I think the refs screwed it up.

They either screwed it up, or the rule is very oddly specific and unique to kick-offs and fair catches.

Because he was airborne and was last 'established' in the field of play, he essentially started the catch in the field of play but completed it outside, which is like a fumble or bobble out of bounds... because otherwise... it's a no-brainer.

And they get the Michigan extra seconds on 1st and goal. Should have been delay of game.

UNT's #13, on the other hand, makes a spectacular diving catch of deep bomb. TD comes 2 plays later..

0-10.

(11-07-2026 04:40 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-07-2026 04:34 PM)NYNightOwl Wrote:  I’m pretty sure that if you fair catch and receive the ball out of bounds or receive the ball out of bounds in anyway on a kickoff, it should be ruled as an out of bounds kickoff. Mosey made an excellent smart call and I think the refs screwed it up.

They either screwed it up, or the rule is very oddly specific and unique to kick-offs and fair catches.

Because he was airborne and was last 'established' in the field of play, he essentially started the catch in the field of play but completed it outside, which is like a fumble or bobble out of bounds... because otherwise... it's a no-brainer.

I’ve seen kickoff returners in the NFL pick up a ball that was inbounds while keeping one of their legs out of bounds, and the kickoff was ruled out of bounds. But maybe the rule is oddly specific to fair catches or as you said, maybe it requires being established.

(11-07-2026 04:26 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-07-2026 04:21 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-07-2026 04:17 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Holy crap... If the slot even PUSHES the DE, that's a touchdown... Instead its a 20 yard sack and then a missed FG.

That's NOT on the scheme... That's on the players. I don't know if the tackle blocked down and was supposed to block 'out', but I REALLY don't understand why the wing literally got out of the way of the rushing DE to give him a free shot at the QB. Jaquirri was WIDE open for at the very least, a first... and likely a TD

Could NOT possibly be a result of poor coaching ....

Nope. Don't embarrass yourself. One of them missed an assignment... period

You are an embarrassment with your company line. Players are coached to carry out assignments. Idiot.

(11-07-2026 04:43 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-07-2026 04:26 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-07-2026 04:21 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(11-07-2026 04:17 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Holy crap... If the slot even PUSHES the DE, that's a touchdown... Instead its a 20 yard sack and then a missed FG.

That's NOT on the scheme... That's on the players. I don't know if the tackle blocked down and was supposed to block 'out', but I REALLY don't understand why the wing literally got out of the way of the rushing DE to give him a free shot at the QB. Jaquirri was WIDE open for at the very least, a first... and likely a TD

Could NOT possibly be a result of poor coaching ....

Nope. Don't embarrass yourself. One of them missed an assignment... period

You are an embarrassment with your company line. Players are coached to carry out assignments. Idiot.

Whoa! There is such a thing as a missed assignment. Players do make mistakes, and coaching can’t entirely prevent that.

3 runs stuffed ... 2 of them Ochoa options up the clogged middle. Punt.

Sigh.

UNT was matriculating down the field ... until stopped by an offensive holding penalty, anAkui sack and a deep pass breakup.

Yay, defense!!

OK, an actually completed pass to a tight end. But then….

Nice pass to TE Zinter.

Mosey recovers Ochoa's fumbled snap!

Pass interference on Brown down the middle.

Good Ochoa run through the middle.

Three Byars runs get a first down.

Long TD pass to TE Swartz!!!

7-10. 4:54 left in 1H.

Solid drive and score.

Yeah baby!!!

Two big catches by the TE! TOUCHDOWN!

R I C E
Rice Rice Rice

3rd and 24…pass way overthrown but negated by roughing the QB…good grief.