(11-04-2026 12:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Americans are weak and soft. All they had to do is pay a little more for gas and they lost their shite.

100% True. But that’s not something we just suddenly learned on Tuesday night. It’s been obvious for a long time. So, the GOP has no right to act surprised or disappointed.

Quote:I can't imagine if we had to fight a war like WWII again.

America will never fight a war like that again. No matter what happens to other countries and no matter what happens to us, America will never fully mobilize again as we did in 1942-45. The people who currently inhabit the United States are no longer that kind of people.

(11-04-2026 12:52 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Most of yall on this forum said the war was a great idea and price increases were a necessary short term sacrifice

“a great idea” is your description, not mine. But even now, after the electoral massacre, I absolutely believe it was the least-bad option, and am thankful Trump made the call. Of course we shouldn’t leave it 1/2-done and 1/2-undone. That is worse than doing nothing. We will see what happens from here.

Quote:The Republican congress did nothing. Achieved nothing. Took the mandate they were given and did precisely zero with it. Feckless losers who are relieved to no longer be in the majority.

There is simply no world where a full, comprehensive agenda can pass the House with a 220-215 majority. The Dems have never done that, either.

(11-04-2026 03:32 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  NC is just now VA. Blue creep down the coast.

Show me a result like this in a presidential election, and I’ll believe you. But not on the basis of a Senate election in a bad year when the Dems had their best-possible candidate and we had a B-lister, trying to replace an embittered incumbent who was openly undermining us.

(Yesterday 09:42 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Americans are weak and soft. All they had to do is pay a little more for gas and they lost their shite.

100% True. But that’s not something we just suddenly learned on Tuesday night. It’s been obvious for a long time. So, the GOP has no right to act surprised or disappointed.

Quote:I can't imagine if we had to fight a war like WWII again.

America will never fight a war like that again. No matter what happens to other countries and no matter what happens to us, America will never fully mobilize again as we did in 1942-45. The people who currently inhabit the United States are no longer that kind of people.

(11-04-2026 12:52 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Most of yall on this forum said the war was a great idea and price increases were a necessary short term sacrifice

“a great idea” is your description, not mine. But even now, after the electoral massacre, I absolutely believe it was the least-bad option, and am thankful Trump made the call. Of course we shouldn’t leave it 1/2-done and 1/2-undone. That is worse than doing nothing. We will see what happens from here.

Quote:The Republican congress did nothing. Achieved nothing. Took the mandate they were given and did precisely zero with it. Feckless losers who are relieved to no longer be in the majority.

There is simply no world where a full, comprehensive agenda can pass the House with a 220-215 majority. The Dems have never done that, either.

(11-04-2026 03:32 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  NC is just now VA. Blue creep down the coast.

Show me a result like this in a presidential election, and I’ll believe you. But not on the basis of a Senate election in a bad year when the Dems had their best-possible candidate and we had a B-lister, trying to replace an embittered incumbent who was openly undermining us.

Responding to bolded. Doesn't this sound like a familiar early 00's tap dance? And look where that got us for 20 years.

(Yesterday 09:01 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(Yesterday 08:51 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 03:32 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:23 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm convinced now that the NC GOP doesn't want to win state-wide election any more. Mark Robinson and Whatley have convinced me of that.

NC is just now VA. Blue creep down the coast.

I agree. I blame Covid. Due to work from home abilities, so many people escaped their previous states due to high taxes, high rent, etc for a cheaper and better life down south. And then went and voted for the exact things they escaped from.

Still pushing this lazy ass narrative. Y'all need to let go of this and look at the real numbers of who moved and how badly the GOP got beaten. The reality of # of people relocating isn't anywhere close to enough to explain that. You'd have to assume literally every transplant from the Northeast is a liberal AND voted AND moved to VA and NC. It ignores the fact that a lot of people moving south are sick of the Northeast politics (I know plenty like that). Your take lets the GOP off the hook for running awful candidates.

https://virginiarealtors.org/2026/02/18/...moving-in/

https://usafacts.org/answers/what-states...-carolina/

In 2024, most people moving to North Carolina came from Florida, South Carolina, and Virginia.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/s...rylink=cpy

North Carolina gained nearly 340,000 people from other states in 2023, year-over-year, according to recent Census data. Of those new residents, about 40,000 came from Florida — the most from a single state.

Nah, not lazy, just what I've seen locally. My neighborhood has almost completely turned over, and all the "Equality" posters/signs are now in their front yards during election time. Interestingly, the US flags only appear when a certain party wins.

(Yesterday 10:38 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(Yesterday 09:01 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(Yesterday 08:51 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 03:32 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:23 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm convinced now that the NC GOP doesn't want to win state-wide election any more. Mark Robinson and Whatley have convinced me of that.

NC is just now VA. Blue creep down the coast.

I agree. I blame Covid. Due to work from home abilities, so many people escaped their previous states due to high taxes, high rent, etc for a cheaper and better life down south. And then went and voted for the exact things they escaped from.

Still pushing this lazy ass narrative. Y'all need to let go of this and look at the real numbers of who moved and how badly the GOP got beaten. The reality of # of people relocating isn't anywhere close to enough to explain that. You'd have to assume literally every transplant from the Northeast is a liberal AND voted AND moved to VA and NC. It ignores the fact that a lot of people moving south are sick of the Northeast politics (I know plenty like that). Your take lets the GOP off the hook for running awful candidates.

https://virginiarealtors.org/2026/02/18/...moving-in/

https://usafacts.org/answers/what-states...-carolina/

In 2024, most people moving to North Carolina came from Florida, South Carolina, and Virginia.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/s...rylink=cpy

North Carolina gained nearly 340,000 people from other states in 2023, year-over-year, according to recent Census data. Of those new residents, about 40,000 came from Florida — the most from a single state.

Nah, not lazy, just what I've seen locally. My neighborhood has almost completely turned over, and all the "Equality" posters/signs are now in their front yards during election time. Interestingly, the US flags only appear when a certain party wins.

Georgia has gained a lot of Black residents from the north, especially Chicago. And they are 90+% Democrat. That has turned a deep red state into a closer state. Georgia is still red, but the blue side is turning out better. Much better this year.

(Yesterday 10:38 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(Yesterday 09:01 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(Yesterday 08:51 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 03:32 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:23 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm convinced now that the NC GOP doesn't want to win state-wide election any more. Mark Robinson and Whatley have convinced me of that.

NC is just now VA. Blue creep down the coast.

I agree. I blame Covid. Due to work from home abilities, so many people escaped their previous states due to high taxes, high rent, etc for a cheaper and better life down south. And then went and voted for the exact things they escaped from.

Still pushing this lazy ass narrative. Y'all need to let go of this and look at the real numbers of who moved and how badly the GOP got beaten. The reality of # of people relocating isn't anywhere close to enough to explain that. You'd have to assume literally every transplant from the Northeast is a liberal AND voted AND moved to VA and NC. It ignores the fact that a lot of people moving south are sick of the Northeast politics (I know plenty like that). Your take lets the GOP off the hook for running awful candidates.

https://virginiarealtors.org/2026/02/18/...moving-in/

https://usafacts.org/answers/what-states...-carolina/

In 2024, most people moving to North Carolina came from Florida, South Carolina, and Virginia.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/s...rylink=cpy

North Carolina gained nearly 340,000 people from other states in 2023, year-over-year, according to recent Census data. Of those new residents, about 40,000 came from Florida — the most from a single state.

Nah, not lazy, just what I've seen locally. My neighborhood has almost completely turned over, and all the "Equality" posters/signs are now in their front yards during election time. Interestingly, the US flags only appear when a certain party wins.

Surely your anecdotal evidence overrides the actual numbers.

(Yesterday 11:05 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(Yesterday 10:38 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(Yesterday 09:01 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(Yesterday 08:51 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 03:32 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  NC is just now VA. Blue creep down the coast.

I agree. I blame Covid. Due to work from home abilities, so many people escaped their previous states due to high taxes, high rent, etc for a cheaper and better life down south. And then went and voted for the exact things they escaped from.

Still pushing this lazy ass narrative. Y'all need to let go of this and look at the real numbers of who moved and how badly the GOP got beaten. The reality of # of people relocating isn't anywhere close to enough to explain that. You'd have to assume literally every transplant from the Northeast is a liberal AND voted AND moved to VA and NC. It ignores the fact that a lot of people moving south are sick of the Northeast politics (I know plenty like that). Your take lets the GOP off the hook for running awful candidates.

https://virginiarealtors.org/2026/02/18/...moving-in/

https://usafacts.org/answers/what-states...-carolina/

In 2024, most people moving to North Carolina came from Florida, South Carolina, and Virginia.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/s...rylink=cpy

North Carolina gained nearly 340,000 people from other states in 2023, year-over-year, according to recent Census data. Of those new residents, about 40,000 came from Florida — the most from a single state.

Nah, not lazy, just what I've seen locally. My neighborhood has almost completely turned over, and all the "Equality" posters/signs are now in their front yards during election time. Interestingly, the US flags only appear when a certain party wins.

Georgia has gained a lot of Black residents from the north, especially Chicago. And they are 90+% Democrat. That has turned a deep red state into a closer state. Georgia is still red, but the blue side is turning out better. Much better this year.

Georgia will be Louisiana within the next 4 years. Atlanta is just about at the New Orleans level now. The only thing holding it back is it isn't as old.

(11-04-2026 08:00 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  It was the economy stupid. It was every day gas and food prices. Its not about actually being in the Persian Gulf. Its the higher gas prices and related inflation that are impacted by the war. That's a pain point every day for people.

The morons in maga-world ran on the economy in 2024, won because of it, then they proceeded to make things exponentially worse than the Biden administration ever did.

Then they doubled down, twiddling their thumbs about ballrooms, DEI, and other nonsensical things that simply don't matter. Very "let them eat cake." The cowardice or unwillingness of repubs' ability to stand up to Trump in his dumbest moments was noted.

Make no mistake - this belt-to-ass moment isn't about Iran. It didn't help their case any, but they had dug their own hole WELL before then.

How did I know that you'd be over here gloating? GTFO, we never liked you anyway. I bet you look just like one of the crazies we see hounding ICE and posting batcrap crazy videos on tik tok.

You actually think I care if you like me? That's cute.
Sour grapes is such a bad look for you.

(11-04-2026 01:25 PM)otown Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  It was the economy stupid. It was every day gas and food prices. Its not about actually being in the Persian Gulf. Its the higher gas prices and related inflation that are impacted by the war. That's a pain point every day for people.

The morons in maga-world ran on the economy in 2024, won because of it, then they proceeded to make things exponentially worse than the Biden administration ever did.

Then they doubled down, twiddling their thumbs about ballrooms, DEI, and other nonsensical things that simply don't matter. Very "let them eat cake." The cowardice or unwillingness of repubs' ability to stand up to Trump in his dumbest moments was noted.

Make no mistake - this belt-to-ass moment isn't about Iran. It didn't help their case any, but they had dug their own hole WELL before then.

I am very intrigued by this. How is today's economy and gas prices worse than Biden's?

Price growth had been eating into everyday Americans' take-home pay thanks to Trump's tariff nonsense well before Iran became an issue.
Groceries are more expensive now, and have been since Trump took office....then you add the soaring gas prices to it, stagnant wages (or worse, tiny wage increases eaten up by massive insurance hikes), mortgage rates pricing first-time buyers out, etc.

Make no mistake that this was about more than the economy, however - it was an utter repudiation of everything Trump and his fan club in Congress allowed:

Voters want peace, he gave them an undeclared war.
Voters want relief from high prices, he gave them tariffs.
Voters want corruption out of Washington, he made the "swamp" even more corrupt than before, rewarding those who bent the knee and going on a rampage against those who didn't.
Hispanic voters helped Trump win in 2024, and he sent ICE in to profile them, sometimes brutally.
Voters want stability in the world, and Trump gave us broken alliances and sidled up to dictators like Vladimir Putin.
The cancel culture of the MAGA right inflicted immense cruelty on its enemies, and their mindless followers relished every second.

People simply have had enough of Trump and those in Congress who enabled him.

(Yesterday 12:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 08:00 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  It was the economy stupid. It was every day gas and food prices. Its not about actually being in the Persian Gulf. Its the higher gas prices and related inflation that are impacted by the war. That's a pain point every day for people.

The morons in maga-world ran on the economy in 2024, won because of it, then they proceeded to make things exponentially worse than the Biden administration ever did.

Then they doubled down, twiddling their thumbs about ballrooms, DEI, and other nonsensical things that simply don't matter. Very "let them eat cake." The cowardice or unwillingness of repubs' ability to stand up to Trump in his dumbest moments was noted.

Make no mistake - this belt-to-ass moment isn't about Iran. It didn't help their case any, but they had dug their own hole WELL before then.

How did I know that you'd be over here gloating? GTFO, we never liked you anyway. I bet you look just like one of the crazies we see hounding ICE and posting batcrap crazy videos on tik tok.

You actually think I care if you like me? That's cute.
Sour grapes is such a bad look for you.

Gotta hurry to the politics board

(Yesterday 12:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(Yesterday 12:07 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 08:00 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  It was the economy stupid. It was every day gas and food prices. Its not about actually being in the Persian Gulf. Its the higher gas prices and related inflation that are impacted by the war. That's a pain point every day for people.

The morons in maga-world ran on the economy in 2024, won because of it, then they proceeded to make things exponentially worse than the Biden administration ever did.

Then they doubled down, twiddling their thumbs about ballrooms, DEI, and other nonsensical things that simply don't matter. Very "let them eat cake." The cowardice or unwillingness of repubs' ability to stand up to Trump in his dumbest moments was noted.

Make no mistake - this belt-to-ass moment isn't about Iran. It didn't help their case any, but they had dug their own hole WELL before then.

How did I know that you'd be over here gloating? GTFO, we never liked you anyway. I bet you look just like one of the crazies we see hounding ICE and posting batcrap crazy videos on tik tok.

You actually think I care if you like me? That's cute.
Sour grapes is such a bad look for you.

Gotta hurry to the politics board

Still providing zero substance around here, I see. It's good to see that some things haven't changed.

(11-04-2026 10:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 09:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol at the prog filth climbing out of the woodwork today. They think their miserable lives are going to get better because government is gonna help them

Bwahahahahaha

I noticed that a good number of lefties who were here previously and left, have suddenly shown up again. Tells you something.

Gutless sniveling low life cowards?

Idk

Or we just had a seismic election and this forum is a place to discuss? Gimme a week or two and I will fade away again don't worry.

(Yesterday 01:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 10:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 09:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol at the prog filth climbing out of the woodwork today. They think their miserable lives are going to get better because government is gonna help them

Bwahahahahaha

I noticed that a good number of lefties who were here previously and left, have suddenly shown up again. Tells you something.

Gutless sniveling low life cowards?

Idk

Or we just had a seismic election and this forum is a place to discuss? Gimme a week or two and I will fade away again don't worry.

So what I said.


Seismic how? What exactly will change? What are the Democrats going to do to make America better?

Go on record.

You already faded away for me. I dunno how I missed you.

(Yesterday 10:10 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(Yesterday 09:42 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:52 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Most of yall on this forum said the war was a great idea and price increases were a necessary short term sacrifice

“a great idea” is your description, not mine. But even now, after the electoral massacre, I absolutely believe it was the least-bad option, and am thankful Trump made the call. Of course we shouldn’t leave it 1/2-done and 1/2-undone. That is worse than doing nothing. We will see what happens from here.

Doesn't this sound like a familiar early 00's tap dance? And look where that got us for 20 years.

If Trump launches an occupation of Iran, and tries to install a democratic government there, then I will join you in opposition. That was the critical mistake Bush43 made in Iraq. So far, Trump does not appear to be repeating it.

(Yesterday 01:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You already faded away for me. I dunno how I missed you.

Seismic

Like an earthquake. Expect more destruction.

These aren't serious people.

She is the one that said a Trumper killed Charlie kirk

(11-04-2026 01:23 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm convinced now that the NC GOP doesn't want to win state-wide election any more. Mark Robinson and Whatley have convinced me of that.

https://www.simplypsychology.com/article...of-success

Quote:The fear is rarely about the success. It is about what is attached to it. Common feared consequences include:

Higher expectations. One win becomes the new baseline, and the next result is judged against it.

Visibility. Success draws attention, and attention can invite criticism.

Envy and loss of belonging. Some people worry that colleagues, friends or family will resent them or feel left behind.

Identity change. A person who has seen themselves as an underdog may not know how to be someone who wins.

Responsibility. A promotion brings more people to manage and more decisions that cannot be undone.

(Yesterday 01:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You already faded away for me. I dunno how I missed you.

Is JD the one that lost a self ban bet or something a few years back?

(Yesterday 01:23 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(Yesterday 01:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You already faded away for me. I dunno how I missed you.

Is JD the one that lost a self ban bet or something a few years back?

A decade ago. Thats why I only pop in now n then to giggle and wave.

(Yesterday 01:26 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(Yesterday 01:23 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(Yesterday 01:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You already faded away for me. I dunno how I missed you.

Is JD the one that lost a self ban bet or something a few years back?

A decade ago. Thats why I only pop in now n then to giggle and wave.

This place never forgets. I think the statute of limitations has run out

(Yesterday 01:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(Yesterday 01:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You already faded away for me. I dunno how I missed you.

Seismic

Like an earthquake. Expect more destruction.

These aren't serious people.

She is the one that said a Trumper killed Charlie kirk

I was gonna bring that up, but I already hammer Gitanole about it from time to time. And I might be mistaken, but she may have apologized for saying that once it was confirmed Tyler Robinson was a radicalized leftist despite having Republican parents.