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RE: BLUE Wave?
(Yesterday 10:32 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 09:39 AM)CliftonAve2 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  It was major rebuke of Trump - zero doubts about it. So much so that people elected real door knobs into office. LOL, they're going to have to check the water coolers in Amy Acton's offices as OH governor to ensure they're not filled with vodka. We're at the point where the ideas are way more important than the party - so long as the politician is willing to push the idea over party dynamics. As voters, we should automatically call out and ridicule any politician who espouses party loyalty and actively uses the party to punish people. Party politics is what's killing the country. It's all about game theory.

I was having a spirited discussion a month ago with a family member who is a college-educated liberal white woman. I asked her what policies Acton espoused that she liked and all she could give me was the platitudes like Kindness, Empathy and Hope. When I asked for more specifics, she could not articulate anything other than saying she was a female and a doctor. This family member is not the only one who feels that way- I think for somewhere to 30-40% of the voters in this country, these emotions and feelings are all they need, evidence to the contrary be damned.

I could have died when I saw the add with Amy's mom. The most idiotic thing Vivek ever tried. Vivek's name is mud. His heritage will work against him moving forward because everyone will consider him a hustling con-man who wants to bring an ass load of Indians into the U.S. on H1B Visas. At the start of Trump's term, I think he was on record as being a staunch supporter of H1B.

All the Ohio GOP had to do was run just about anyone else for Governor. Jon Husted wanted to be governor. Lt Gov Jim Tressel would have won in a landslide.
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(Yesterday 10:02 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(Yesterday 09:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-04-2026 10:21 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(11-01-2026 10:38 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(10-31-2026 10:10 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  Does it matter? At the end Dems will control the house and senate. Trump screwed all of USA when he started the Iran war.

I disagree on both points.

How did that disagreeing work out for you?

Dems won because Trump bungled Iran. Period.

BS. I don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran.

"It's the economy, stupid." Your deductive reasoning needs some help.
Well, this has already been explained numerous times, including the post replying to yours. Everything Trump has done or is trying to do has been overshadowed by the high prices and the high prices are a direct result from the Iran war. I know you are blinded by your love for Trump, but most everyone else can admit that Trump completely mishandled Iran.

I don't even like Trump. I like a lot of the GOP policies, but Trump has screwed the pooch most of this year, and certainly has mishandled the Iran war bigly.

But like I said before, I don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran.

It's the economy, stupid. Regardless of what caused it. It's not just a one note disaster. Pay better attention.
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(Yesterday 11:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't even like Trump. I like a lot of the GOP policies, but Trump has screwed the pooch most of this year, and certainly has mishandled the Iran war bigly.

But like I said before, I don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran.

It's the economy, stupid. Regardless of what caused it. It's not just a one note disaster. Pay better attention.

But...the Iran was blew gas and diesel prices through the roof. Those are direct drivers of inflation. So yes, people do care about the Iran war in that context.

Also, his tariffs hurt the economy as well.
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(Yesterday 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't even like Trump. I like a lot of the GOP policies, but Trump has screwed the pooch most of this year, and certainly has mishandled the Iran war bigly.

But like I said before, I don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran.

It's the economy, stupid. Regardless of what caused it. It's not just a one note disaster. Pay better attention.

But...the Iran was blew gas and diesel prices through the roof. Those are direct drivers of inflation. So yes, people do care about the Iran war in that context.

Also, his tariffs hurt the economy as well.

I said they care about the economy, REGARDLESS of the cause. And Iran is a big factor, but sure as hell not the ONLY one.
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(Yesterday 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't even like Trump. I like a lot of the GOP policies, but Trump has screwed the pooch most of this year, and certainly has mishandled the Iran war bigly.

But like I said before, I don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran.

It's the economy, stupid. Regardless of what caused it. It's not just a one note disaster. Pay better attention.

But...the Iran was blew gas and diesel prices through the roof. Those are direct drivers of inflation. So yes, people do care about the Iran war in that context.

Also, his tariffs hurt the economy as well.

I said they care about the economy, REGARDLESS of the cause. And Iran is a big factor, but sure as hell not the ONLY one.

Right, but you said you don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran. I know many who do...and certainly many Republicans do. Especially the ones who bought the no new wars lie he told.

It would not be hard to find someone who doesn't approve of the Iran war.
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(Yesterday 09:33 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(Yesterday 09:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-04-2026 10:21 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(11-01-2026 10:38 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(10-31-2026 10:10 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  Does it matter? At the end Dems will control the house and senate. Trump screwed all of USA when he started the Iran war.

I disagree on both points.

How did that disagreeing work out for you?

Dems won because Trump bungled Iran. Period.

BS. I don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran.

"It's the economy, stupid." Your deductive reasoning needs some help.

I mean without the Iran war diesel and transportations costs wouldn’t be so high. So everything would be cheaper without Iran.

And we wouldn’t be yeeting $1M interceptors at $20k drones.

Everything was more expensive before Iran war, and it got worst during it.
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(Yesterday 11:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't even like Trump. I like a lot of the GOP policies, but Trump has screwed the pooch most of this year, and certainly has mishandled the Iran war bigly.

But like I said before, I don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran.

It's the economy, stupid. Regardless of what caused it. It's not just a one note disaster. Pay better attention.

But...the Iran was blew gas and diesel prices through the roof. Those are direct drivers of inflation. So yes, people do care about the Iran war in that context.

Also, his tariffs hurt the economy as well.

I said they care about the economy, REGARDLESS of the cause. And Iran is a big factor, but sure as hell not the ONLY one.

Right, but you said you don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran. I know many who do...and certainly many Republicans do. Especially the ones who bought the no new wars lie he told.

It would not be hard to find someone who doesn't approve of the Iran war.

I supported the attack on Iran at the beginning, Tom. But it has turned into a fiasco. Fortunately, there have been very few (relatively speaking) American military deaths.

Seems Trump and Hegseth had no plan. Maybe Iran will forever be without a nuclear weapon thanks to this war and I will give Trump credit if so. That is the hope.
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(Yesterday 11:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't even like Trump. I like a lot of the GOP policies, but Trump has screwed the pooch most of this year, and certainly has mishandled the Iran war bigly.

But like I said before, I don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran.

It's the economy, stupid. Regardless of what caused it. It's not just a one note disaster. Pay better attention.

But...the Iran was blew gas and diesel prices through the roof. Those are direct drivers of inflation. So yes, people do care about the Iran war in that context.

Also, his tariffs hurt the economy as well.

I said they care about the economy, REGARDLESS of the cause. And Iran is a big factor, but sure as hell not the ONLY one.

Right, but you said you don't know a single person who gives a **** about Iran. I know many who do...and certainly many Republicans do. Especially the ones who bought the no new wars lie he told.

It would not be hard to find someone who doesn't approve of the Iran war.

Are you dense? I have been on the road for 4 months now. I haven't met a single person I already know, and we certainly don't discuss politics.
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