Hokie Mark
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RE: The ACC after 2030
Will Florida State still be in the ACC, complaining that they don't make as much money as Florida while also losing half their conference football games? Asking for a friend...
And it's not just Seminoles. Fans of Louisville and Miami have been posting a lot of scenarios about how they're leaving the ACC for big money in either the SEC or the Big Ten.
Still, it would be nice if we could just give all this realignment talk a break, at least during the season, and focus on the games... or is that just too painful for you guys?
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2026 09:26 PM by Hokie Mark.)
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Gitanole
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-02-2026 08:17 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Will Florida State still be in the ACC, complaining that they don't make as much money as Florida while also losing half their conference football games? Asking for a friend...
And it's not just Seminoles. Fans of Louisville and Miami have been posting a lot of scenarios about how they're leaving the ACC for big money in either the SEC or the Big Ten. Part of me wants to say "don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
Still, it would be nice if we could just give all this realignment talk a break, at least during the season, and focus on the games... or is that just too painful for you guys?
I've been posting videos of games. You’re welcome.
This thread is clearly labelled so people browsing this section of the board can choose whether or not the topic interests them.
One reason I created the thread was to consolidate a discussion that tends to scatter all over. My thought was that by making one place for it, those of us interested in the topic would find comments more easily and in the process sidestep a few complainers who like to complain that other people are complaining when those people are just considering possibilities.
I hope this explanation is helpful.
Don’t let the door hit you.
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Hokie Mark
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-02-2026 01:13 PM)Gitanole Wrote: (11-02-2026 08:17 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Will Florida State still be in the ACC, complaining that they don't make as much money as Florida while also losing half their conference football games? Asking for a friend...
And it's not just Seminoles. Fans of Louisville and Miami have been posting a lot of scenarios about how they're leaving the ACC for big money in either the SEC or the Big Ten. Part of me wants to say "don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
Still, it would be nice if we could just give all this realignment talk a break, at least during the season, and focus on the games... or is that just too painful for you guys?
I've been posting videos of games. You’re welcome.
This thread is clearly labelled so people browsing this section of the board can choose whether or not the topic interests them.
One reason I created the thread was to consolidate a discussion that tends to scatter all over. My thought was that by making one place for it, those of us interested in the topic would find comments more easily and in the process sidestep a few complainers who like to complain that other people are complaining when those people are just considering possibilities.
I hope this explanation is helpful.
Don’t let the door hit you.

I apologize to you, Gitanole - you're one of the good posters, I was just frustrated. I really do appreciate you posting the videos, too. And yes, theoretically it should help to have one mega-thread for this sort of thing.
Rock on.
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The ACC after 2030
(11-02-2026 08:17 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Will Florida State still be in the ACC, complaining that they don't make as much money as Florida while also losing half their conference football games? Asking for a friend...
And it's not just Seminoles. Fans of Louisville and Miami have been posting a lot of scenarios about how they're leaving the ACC for big money in either the SEC or the Big Ten. Part of me wants to say "don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
Still, it would be nice if we could just give all this realignment talk a break, at least during the season, and focus on the games... or is that just too painful for you guys?
Are you referring to my post? I was simply mocking that ridiculous article, I thought the levity was clear. I like the nucleus of Louisville, VT, GT, NC State, Pitt, Syracuse & SMU.
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Hokie Mark
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-02-2026 06:34 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: (11-02-2026 08:17 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Will Florida State still be in the ACC, complaining that they don't make as much money as Florida while also losing half their conference football games? Asking for a friend...
And it's not just Seminoles. Fans of Louisville and Miami have been posting a lot of scenarios about how they're leaving the ACC for big money in either the SEC or the Big Ten. Part of me wants to say "don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
Still, it would be nice if we could just give all this realignment talk a break, at least during the season, and focus on the games... or is that just too painful for you guys?
Are you referring to my post? I was simply mocking that ridiculous article, I thought the levity was clear. I like the nucleus of Louisville, VT, GT, NC State, Pitt, Syracuse & SMU.
It wasn't one particular post, tbh, it was a flood of them - not just here, but also in my X feed. I let it get to me.
I do agree, as a Hokies fan, that I like a schedule with Louisville, GT, NC State, Pitt, Syracuse, and SMU on it. That sounds pretty solid to me.
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The ACC after 2030
(11-02-2026 07:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (11-02-2026 06:34 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: (11-02-2026 08:17 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Will Florida State still be in the ACC, complaining that they don't make as much money as Florida while also losing half their conference football games? Asking for a friend...
And it's not just Seminoles. Fans of Louisville and Miami have been posting a lot of scenarios about how they're leaving the ACC for big money in either the SEC or the Big Ten. Part of me wants to say "don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
Still, it would be nice if we could just give all this realignment talk a break, at least during the season, and focus on the games... or is that just too painful for you guys?
Are you referring to my post? I was simply mocking that ridiculous article, I thought the levity was clear. I like the nucleus of Louisville, VT, GT, NC State, Pitt, Syracuse & SMU.
It wasn't one particular post, tbh, it was a flood of them - not just here, but also in my X feed. I let it get to me.
I do agree, as a Hokies fan, that I like a schedule with Louisville, GT, NC State, Pitt, Syracuse, and SMU on it. That sounds pretty solid to me.
I get it. With Kentucky having their best year ever all we hear about is how Louisville can’t even make the CFP in the “bum ACC”. How we play “bum teams” on our “bum schedule”. Cats fans & radio hosts are really cocky right now. It’s not easy living in SEC country that borders B1G country.
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RE: The ACC after 2030
If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-04-2026 05:16 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
Buffalo?
Syracuse’s pretty close, this really gains new ACCN ground?
UAB?
It wasn’t too many years ago that they shuttered their football program, if memory serves. History matters.
USF: USF/Miami based.
Tulane/Rice, yep.
Re: Tulane. People debate should Oregon St/Wash St still be P4.
Well, Tulane used to be SEC.
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The ACC after 2030
(11-04-2026 07:20 PM)OrangemanRich Wrote: (11-04-2026 05:16 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
Buffalo?
Syracuse’s pretty close, this really gains new ACCN ground?
UAB?
It wasn’t too many years ago that they shuttered their football program, if memory serves. History matters.
USF: USF/Miami based.
Tulane/Rice, yep.
Re: Tulane. People debate should Oregon St/Wash St still be P4.
Well, Tulane used to be SEC.
If those are our choices as replacements then pardon me while I get the B12 on the phone.
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Hokie Mark
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-04-2026 10:25 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: (11-04-2026 07:20 PM)OrangemanRich Wrote: (11-04-2026 05:16 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
Buffalo?
Syracuse’s pretty close, this really gains new ACCN ground?
UAB?
It wasn’t too many years ago that they shuttered their football program, if memory serves. History matters.
USF: USF/Miami based.
Tulane/Rice, yep.
Re: Tulane. People debate should Oregon St/Wash St still be P4.
Well, Tulane used to be SEC.
If those are our choices as replacements then pardon me while I get the B12 on the phone.
Agreed. I want the ACC to stick around, but that list of expansion teams would be unacceptable (nothing personal).
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-04-2026 07:20 PM)OrangemanRich Wrote: (11-04-2026 05:16 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
Buffalo?
Syracuse’s pretty close, this really gains new ACCN ground?
UAB?
It wasn’t too many years ago that they shuttered their football program, if memory serves. History matters.
USF: USF/Miami based.
Tulane/Rice, yep.
Re: Tulane. People debate should Oregon St/Wash St still be P4.
Well, Tulane used to be SEC.
Buffalo+Syracuse is just like UNC+Duke. One state flagship university plus the primary private institution.
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RE: The ACC after 2030
I read this and it made me question the future of Utah athletics:
https://www.foiaball.com/p/utah-private-...rofit-llcs
FOIABall has uncovered the fact that Utah's $100M private equity will have a man deeply involved who was convicted of theft, conspiracy to commit theft, wire fraud, faking purchases of vehicles, and other fraud. This probably won't end well...
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Gitanole
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-05-2026 07:31 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: I read this and it made me question the future of Utah athletics:
https://www.foiaball.com/p/utah-private-...rofit-llcs
FOIABall has uncovered the fact that Utah's $100M private equity will have a man deeply involved who was convicted of theft, conspiracy to commit theft, wire fraud, faking purchases of vehicles, and other fraud. This probably won't end well...
Oops. Not good.
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-04-2026 05:16 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
I've heard of ...
power 2 ...
power 4 ...
even power 96 ...
but never power 6 ...
must have missed that TED talk ...
PLAYING THE HITS
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-04-2026 07:20 PM)OrangemanRich Wrote: (11-04-2026 05:16 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
Buffalo?
Syracuse’s pretty close, this really gains new ACCN ground?
UAB?
It wasn’t too many years ago that they shuttered their football program, if memory serves. History matters.
USF: USF/Miami based.
Tulane/Rice, yep.
Re: Tulane. People debate should Oregon St/Wash St still be P4.
Well, Tulane used to be SEC.
Here is a list of the top 100 teams based on the last 10 years of football and basketball records. Only one of the teams I listed are on the list. UAB at #31 is just below UNC. Admittedly none of them are sports power houses by any means. The ACC would require a big increase in their athletic budgets as a condition of joining. I would prefer AAU universities over teams like UTSA and North Texas.
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-05-2026 08:19 AM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: (11-04-2026 07:20 PM)OrangemanRich Wrote: (11-04-2026 05:16 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
Buffalo?
Syracuse’s pretty close, this really gains new ACCN ground?
UAB?
It wasn’t too many years ago that they shuttered their football program, if memory serves. History matters.
USF: USF/Miami based.
Tulane/Rice, yep.
Re: Tulane. People debate should Oregon St/Wash St still be P4.
Well, Tulane used to be SEC.
Here is a list of the top 100 teams based on the last 10 years of football and basketball records. Only one of the teams I listed are on the list. UAB at #31 is just below UNC. Admittedly none of them are sports power houses by any means. The ACC would require a big increase in their athletic budgets as a condition of joining. I would prefer AAU universities over teams like UTSA and North Texas.
![[Image: image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.sanity.io%2F...p;amp;q=75]](https://diehardsportsnetwork.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.sanity.io%2Fimages%2Fiahnmtcr%2Fproduction%2F035377a7a4b7e62e75c61ca3f78bc5dad2d69d7a-1023x1200.jpg%3Fw%3D1200%26fm%3Djpg%26q%3D85&w=1920&q=75)
when it comes to realignment ...
it's all about pigskin ...
football prowess ...
market size ...
brand equity ...
basketball baseball etc. are throw-ins ...
nice but not vital ...
luxuries ...
I turn on accn yesterday mid-afternoon ...
they're showing women's field hockey daylong ...
you gotta be sh*tting me ...
narrowcasting ...
IDGAF
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-05-2026 09:36 AM)green Wrote: (11-05-2026 08:19 AM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: (11-04-2026 07:20 PM)OrangemanRich Wrote: (11-04-2026 05:16 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote: If the ACC wants to retain it’s tradition of being associated with academics, there are only 5 Power 6 AAU universities.
Tulane
Rice
UAB
USF
Buffalo
Realistically, the potential of these schools with more athletic money is no worse than most of the current ACC teams or the predicted remaining ones. Rice and Tulane fit somewhat geographically with SMU. UAB and USF geographically fit with the southern ACC teams and Buffalo geographically with Syracuse and Boston College.
Buffalo?
Syracuse’s pretty close, this really gains new ACCN ground?
UAB?
It wasn’t too many years ago that they shuttered their football program, if memory serves. History matters.
USF: USF/Miami based.
Tulane/Rice, yep.
Re: Tulane. People debate should Oregon St/Wash St still be P4.
Well, Tulane used to be SEC.
Here is a list of the top 100 teams based on the last 10 years of football and basketball records. Only one of the teams I listed are on the list. UAB at #31 is just below UNC. Admittedly none of them are sports power houses by any means. The ACC would require a big increase in their athletic budgets as a condition of joining. I would prefer AAU universities over teams like UTSA and North Texas.
![[Image: image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.sanity.io%2F...p;amp;q=75]](https://diehardsportsnetwork.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.sanity.io%2Fimages%2Fiahnmtcr%2Fproduction%2F035377a7a4b7e62e75c61ca3f78bc5dad2d69d7a-1023x1200.jpg%3Fw%3D1200%26fm%3Djpg%26q%3D85&w=1920&q=75)
when it comes to realignment ...
it's all about pigskin ...
football prowess ...
market size ...
brand equity ...
basketball baseball etc. are throw-ins ...
nice but not vital ...
luxuries ...
I turn on accn yesterday mid-afternoon ...
they're showing women's field hockey daylong ...
you gotta be sh*tting me ...
narrowcasting ...
IDGAF
What was the BTN broadcasting, women's ice hockey?
LACE 'EM UP
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RE: The ACC after 2030
(11-02-2026 08:17 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Will Florida State still be in the ACC, complaining that they don't make as much money as Florida while also losing half their conference football games? Asking for a friend...
And it's not just Seminoles. Fans of Louisville and Miami have been posting a lot of scenarios about how they're leaving the ACC for big money in either the SEC or the Big Ten. Part of me wants to say "don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
Still, it would be nice if we could just give all this realignment talk a break, at least during the season, and focus on the games... or is that just too painful for you guys?
While your comment was a little tongue in cheek, it actually rings pretty true.
At this point no one knows with 100% certainty which schools will make up the ACC, SEC, Big 12, or B1G after 2030.
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