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(10-08-2026 07:37 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 10:17 PM)Acres Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 07:12 PM)FSBlueApocalypse Wrote:  The SEC's chief lobbying firm to Greg Sankey on the Protect College Sports Act:
"There is no legislative alternative that gets better for the SEC."

Democrats' asks "begin with employee status, collective bargaining rights, and end with private right of action."

The July 31 internal summary, later forwarded to SEC presidents, also warned: "After the election, because of who is likely to win the House, you won't see this bill ... being considered."

Its last line: "Let's get this done."

https://x.com/jloesche88/status/2107979560394317876

Reads to me that they’ve run out of time . Elections are almost three weeks away and Democratics are favored to win the house. Wonder what the play is for Sankey and Co.

Even if they win the House the new Congress doesn’t take office until January 3, 2027. So there will be a lame duck session after the elections. I don’t know when it would convene or how long it would last. If the Dems do win in November, the Republicans might be motivated to cram everything they could through before they lose power. I don’t know what affect that would have on this bill. If they make any changes the Senate would have to approve the new bill and there isn’t a lot of time for it to ping pong back and forth.

The PCSA has only “run out of time” if this analysis—dated July 31—is accurate.

We’re only seeing this memo now, but it was written some time ago. Before the PCSA passed the Senate, before amendments were added and a number of others considered, even before the bill’s language was substantially revised from its first draft.

Perhaps, even if good then, it remains accurate now—or perhaps not. Some variables go unaddressed in this latest “tweet news”. A few:

1. The PCSA has passed the Senate, amended.
2. It is a bipartisan bill.
3. The House has more than one window to craft its own version of the bill.
4. Even “starting over” in a new Congress ≠ starting from scratch.
5. Both parties operate from philosophies that can help benefit college sports.

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(10-08-2026 07:37 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 10:17 PM)Acres Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 07:12 PM)FSBlueApocalypse Wrote:  The SEC's chief lobbying firm to Greg Sankey on the Protect College Sports Act:
"There is no legislative alternative that gets better for the SEC."

Democrats' asks "begin with employee status, collective bargaining rights, and end with private right of action."

The July 31 internal summary, later forwarded to SEC presidents, also warned: "After the election, because of who is likely to win the House, you won't see this bill ... being considered."

Its last line: "Let's get this done."

https://x.com/jloesche88/status/2107979560394317876

Reads to me that they’ve run out of time . Elections are almost three weeks away and Democratics are favored to win the house. Wonder what the play is for Sankey and Co.

Even if they win the House the new Congress doesn’t take office until January 3, 2027. So there will be a lame duck session after the elections. I don’t know when it would convene or how long it would last. If the Dems do win in November, the Republicans might be motivated to cram everything they could through before they lose power. I don’t know what affect that would have on this bill. If they make any changes the Senate would have to approve the new bill and there isn’t a lot of time for it to ping pong back and forth.

I’m saying this as a statement against my own self-interest since I disagree with this bill on a lot of different levels and personally don’t want it to pass: people have been latching onto every pessimistic statement against this bill through the entire process and kept saying this amendment would kill it or labor opposition would kill it or P2 realignment target jurisdictions would kill it… yet it passed the Senate with freaking 77 votes with broad support from BOTH parties. The negative voices against this bill have been way louder and received way more media attention through this whole process and believe me that tons of people were here were absolutely convinced that it wouldn’t pass the Senate based on quotes from politicians, but when it came to the actual vote, it was about as much of a steamrolling in favor of it as you’ll get in this fractured political environment.

That’s my feeling here with the House. Of course the opponents are being loud right now and trying to make it seem like there’s some type of thin margin or it won’t pass… because the reality is that the overwhelming bipartisan Senate vote is a pretty good indicator that this bill would pass as-is in the House pretty easily. They think/know that this bill is going to pass whenever it comes to a vote, so they’re being overly vocal about their opposition to it just like the flurry of attempted last minute amendments from the Senate. It is generally HARDER to get a bill to pass the Senate compared to the House, particularly when both chambers are controlled by the same party, so that hurdle was already cleared.

The main impediment is that the House leadership doesn’t want to have any session at all until after the election due to other issues (e.g. impeachment hearings). That’s basically the main hope for any opponent of this bill: that it somehow doesn’t come up for a vote at all. If actually does come up for a vote in the lame duck session, it’s hard to reconcile the numbers that it wouldn’t pass even if every Congressperson in Florida, North Carolina, and South Carolina voted against it.
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Yes, politicians every once in a while need a bi-partisan bill. This one "protects" college sports that both sides of the aisle can get on board with. I think it will pass the House if/when it comes up for a vote.
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(10-08-2026 08:34 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Yes, politicians every once in a while need a bi-partisan bill. This one "protects" college sports that both sides of the aisle can get on board with. I think it will pass the House if/when it comes up for a vote.

Broad support seems to exist for much of the text in this bill. Anything that strikes reps as problematic can be amended, as it was in the Senate.

Precisely for that reason, it is also not Game Over if it does fall to the next Congress to do something. It’s a new season, but everybody on the Hill who wants to take a look will still have a copy of this. It’s not like Snapchat.
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It is a start and called this bill a win. You could create new bipartisian bills to fixed some holes in it.
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(10-07-2026 09:52 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 08:57 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 07:12 PM)FSBlueApocalypse Wrote:  The SEC's chief lobbying firm to Greg Sankey on the Protect College Sports Act:
"There is no legislative alternative that gets better for the SEC."

Democrats' asks "begin with employee status, collective bargaining rights, and end with private right of action."

The July 31 internal summary, later forwarded to SEC presidents, also warned: "After the election, because of who is likely to win the House, you won't see this bill ... being considered."

Its last line: "Let's get this done."

https://x.com/jloesche88/status/2107979560394317876

Interesting. Nice share. Maybe they'll rein in their FLA reps lol
Permanently consigning Miami and maybe FSU to the dustbin of history because UF is afraid of classifying athletes as employees seems to be a bit much to me. Maybe the Gainesville rep will do it but I wouldn't expect much more.

That makes no sense. The cap is already at 20 and those two are the two most valuable football programs that would actually move.

But make no mistake, if that was the actual choice, to the dustbin they go lol
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(10-08-2026 02:05 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 07:12 PM)FSBlueApocalypse Wrote:  The SEC's chief lobbying firm to Greg Sankey on the Protect College Sports Act:
"There is no legislative alternative that gets better for the SEC."

Democrats' asks "begin with employee status, collective bargaining rights, and end with private right of action."

The July 31 internal summary, later forwarded to SEC presidents, also warned: "After the election, because of who is likely to win the House, you won't see this bill ... being considered."

Its last line: "Let's get this done."

https://x.com/jloesche88/status/2107979560394317876

Interesting discovery.

Things are likely not so apocalyptic as that for the Greg Sankeys of the world. Sure, odds are that the post-election climate would boost consideration of athletes’ rights. But as a suits-friendly version of the PCSA is already past the Senate, a House debate in that climate could actually result in a more balanced work of legislation.

One caveat, though: If the lame-duck House wrangling becomes too contentious, the whole PCSA matter becomes much easier to drop.

We’ll see how things go.

Odds also favor post election reps revisiting the restrictions of conference size, and not in the way the GOP favors.
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(10-08-2026 08:02 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(10-08-2026 07:37 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 10:17 PM)Acres Wrote:  
(10-07-2026 07:12 PM)FSBlueApocalypse Wrote:  The SEC's chief lobbying firm to Greg Sankey on the Protect College Sports Act:
"There is no legislative alternative that gets better for the SEC."

Democrats' asks "begin with employee status, collective bargaining rights, and end with private right of action."

The July 31 internal summary, later forwarded to SEC presidents, also warned: "After the election, because of who is likely to win the House, you won't see this bill ... being considered."

Its last line: "Let's get this done."

https://x.com/jloesche88/status/2107979560394317876

Reads to me that they’ve run out of time . Elections are almost three weeks away and Democratics are favored to win the house. Wonder what the play is for Sankey and Co.

Even if they win the House the new Congress doesn’t take office until January 3, 2027. So there will be a lame duck session after the elections. I don’t know when it would convene or how long it would last. If the Dems do win in November, the Republicans might be motivated to cram everything they could through before they lose power. I don’t know what affect that would have on this bill. If they make any changes the Senate would have to approve the new bill and there isn’t a lot of time for it to ping pong back and forth.

I’m saying this as a statement against my own self-interest since I disagree with this bill on a lot of different levels and personally don’t want it to pass: people have been latching onto every pessimistic statement against this bill through the entire process and kept saying this amendment would kill it or labor opposition would kill it or P2 realignment target jurisdictions would kill it… yet it passed the Senate with freaking 77 votes with broad support from BOTH parties. The negative voices against this bill have been way louder and received way more media attention through this whole process and believe me that tons of people were here were absolutely convinced that it wouldn’t pass the Senate based on quotes from politicians, but when it came to the actual vote, it was about as much of a steamrolling in favor of it as you’ll get in this fractured political environment.

That’s my feeling here with the House. Of course the opponents are being loud right now and trying to make it seem like there’s some type of thin margin or it won’t pass… because the reality is that the overwhelming bipartisan Senate vote is a pretty good indicator that this bill would pass as-is in the House pretty easily. They think/know that this bill is going to pass whenever it comes to a vote, so they’re being overly vocal about their opposition to it just like the flurry of attempted last minute amendments from the Senate. It is generally HARDER to get a bill to pass the Senate compared to the House, particularly when both chambers are controlled by the same party, so that hurdle was already cleared.

The main impediment is that the House leadership doesn’t want to have any session at all until after the election due to other issues (e.g. impeachment hearings). That’s basically the main hope for any opponent of this bill: that it somehow doesn’t come up for a vote at all. If actually does come up for a vote in the lame duck session, it’s hard to reconcile the numbers that it wouldn’t pass even if every Congressperson in Florida, North Carolina, and South Carolina voted against it.

And even the CBC which is opposing it is not focusing on the "exploitation of Black athletes." They are talking about congressional redistricting. Which says they aren't strongly opposed to it philosophically. If it gets to a vote, it passes. Time is its enemy.
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Y'all have seen this?



Cody Campbell vs Gang of Four
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A private equity backed third power conference is intriguing.


UNC, Duke, VT, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Miami, Kansas, Colorado, Utah


Three of the top four college basketball brands. Four of the top 10.

Three of the top 15 college football brands. Six of the top 30.

Home and away basketball.

Round robin football.

Could be something there.
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(10-08-2026 07:27 PM)Jhawkinva Wrote:  A private equity backed third power conference is intriguing.


UNC, Duke, VT, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Miami, Kansas, Colorado, Utah


Three of the top four college basketball brands. Four of the top 10.

Three of the top 15 college football brands. Six of the top 30.

Home and away basketball.

Round robin football.

Could be something there.

A PE conference with those four is going to go for bigger fish. This is big news. The B1G and SEC do not want PE because it leads to a P1, and including PE prevention in the PCSA is what got them to sign on.
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(10-08-2026 07:27 PM)Jhawkinva Wrote:  A private equity backed third power conference is intriguing.


UNC, Duke, VT, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Miami, Kansas, Colorado, Utah


Three of the top four college basketball brands. Four of the top 10.

Three of the top 15 college football brands. Six of the top 30.

Home and away basketball.

Round robin football.

Could be something there.
You could easily switch out Utah for ASU or, if you'd prefer for basketball, Arizona. Or Texas Tech who are likely to make a bunch of playoff appearances in the near future if Campbell keeps spending.
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(10-08-2026 09:04 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
(10-08-2026 07:27 PM)Jhawkinva Wrote:  A private equity backed third power conference is intriguing.


UNC, Duke, VT, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Miami, Kansas, Colorado, Utah


Three of the top four college basketball brands. Four of the top 10.

Three of the top 15 college football brands. Six of the top 30.

Home and away basketball.

Round robin football.

Could be something there.
You could easily switch out Utah for ASU or, if you'd prefer for basketball, Arizona. Or Texas Tech who are likely to make a bunch of playoff appearances in the near future if Campbell keeps spending.

Campbell doesn’t want this. This is much bigger than Texas Tech.
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Think about this:

They want to sunset the 3-year rule
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They want to sunset the PE ban
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They want to sunset the cap or are okay with 22
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They want to form a P1 and make it easier for the top programs to join
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(10-08-2026 09:14 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  
(10-08-2026 09:04 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  
(10-08-2026 07:27 PM)Jhawkinva Wrote:  A private equity backed third power conference is intriguing.


UNC, Duke, VT, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Miami, Kansas, Colorado, Utah


Three of the top four college basketball brands. Four of the top 10.

Three of the top 15 college football brands. Six of the top 30.

Home and away basketball.

Round robin football.

Could be something there.
You could easily switch out Utah for ASU or, if you'd prefer for basketball, Arizona. Or Texas Tech who are likely to make a bunch of playoff appearances in the near future if Campbell keeps spending.

Campbell doesn’t want this. This is much bigger than Texas Tech.

Well as a donor he'd have the right to stop contributing. I doubt he'd use it though.
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(10-08-2026 06:42 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  Y'all have seen this?



Cody Campbell vs Gang of Four

His pal Randy Levine told us the P2 aren’t expanding anyway.

So why the flop sweat?

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(10-08-2026 09:14 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Campbell doesn’t want this. This is much bigger than Texas Tech.

I’ve seen no evidence Campbell is.

He has his allies, to be sure. The troika includes key people at Texas Tech, Washington State, and Notre Dame. All three got the ear of senators early and all three got something they wanted.

Now others feel—are—just as entitled to a hearing.

And lawmakers have yet to take up in a comprehensive way the rights athletes won in court. More people would likely be on it right now had Section 205 not been a distraction. For all that, odds are pretty good that lawmakers will make a higher priority of it after November 3.

We’ll see how things go.

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(10-08-2026 10:35 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(10-08-2026 09:14 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Campbell doesn’t want this. This is much bigger than Texas Tech.

I’ve seen no evidence Campbell is.

Campbell is just trying to keep his name in the public eye. The pressure is coming from the schools, and it is out a fear of being left out of something the public likely knows nothing about as of yet. There's been a lot of cooperation between the SEC leadership and the Big Ten's leadership as they've worked through issues pertaining to the CFP expansion. They may or may not agree about that. But they are coming to grips with the likelihood of a scheduling alliance and have some ideas about where to go beyond that.

Yes, they were content with the cap at 19. It permitted both to still land what they have been most after without altering the landscape of the P4 in a dramatic way, and had the SEC decided to land the ones they wanted it would have freed the ACC to make some football first backfills perhaps improving their situation.

I believe the appeal to bump the number to 20 which raised possible defections to 6 from the ACC has created a mini-panic among its football first schools. If the SEC and Big Ten pull off a scheduling alliance it leaves less for all of them, especially if the SEC plays 10 conference games and only has one slot left for a 7th home buy game, or accepts only 6 home games while alternating the Big Ten obligation and the season ending rivalry with several of the ACC schools.

And then there is a speculated upon potentiality for a more aggressive move for the two at a later date.

Therefore while the total movement, even at 20 isn't fatal, being left out of the movement could be seen as such since the margin of revenue difference between the SEC/Big Ten and the ACC/Big 12 is going to grow, perhaps later even more significantly.

Nobody in the press is going to be clued in and if they get bits and pieces of the rumor, they have nothing to pin it to. So they sit on it. But the pipeline of such speculation is enough to engender anxiety in athletic departments whether there is truth to the speculation or not. It's like something out of Dr. Strangelove, "Mr. President we cannot permit there to be a mineshaft gap!" when referring to preparations for doomsday. I think such a mindset exists outside of the offices of the Big Ten and SEC. I believe that fear is what is driving demand for greater accessibility to the P2 by the M2. It is a demand driven by what might be, rather than by what is. The SEC and Big Ten were quite content at a likely 18 or 19 at the most. They'll be as contented at 20, but perhaps not arranged as efficiently as they might have been at 18.

The result will be confused instructions to House members and Senators, and it may prove to be that fear becomes the greatest obstacle to obtaining the exemption.

Maybe if the House and Senate go to joint restructuring of the bill we will stop at 20, hopefully remove any requirement for years of independence, and everyone will see the wisdom of bringing all of this to the swiftest possible conclusion.

At 18 members each we could have had a P4 of 72 members adding 4 more schools to the tier plus Notre Dame. At 20 we might wind up more exclusive with 3 conferences, 60 members plus Notre Dame. That kind of potential reduction in the upper tier is what is helping to drive the panic. All of the AD's and presidents can do the math, grasp the potentialities, and worry. That's why 18 posing as 19 was the safer number for everyone. That's why 20 is creating panic. If some idiot pushes for 22, it will be catastrophic for the P4 if the networks wanted to pay for it and encouraged it, and why not? The more they can make from a smaller upper tier the better off they are and the more control over it they'll want. In the end you could easily wind up with a Super 2 of 24 members each and only 48 schools paid premier carriage rates. Everyone else relegated to a limbo tier between the S2 and the G6 and forever labeled the M2.

It's the math of 20 that stirred the fears. IMO, 18 would not have created that. But some of those lobbying the Senate's writing of the Bill squeezed in some self interest and voila, here we are.
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(10-08-2026 09:14 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Campbell doesn’t want this. This is much bigger than Texas Tech.

I’ve seen no evidence Campbell is.
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Campbell is just trying to keep his name in the public eye. The pressure is coming from the schools, and it is out a fear of being left out of something the public likely knows nothing about as of yet. There's been a lot of cooperation between the SEC leadership and the Big Ten's leadership as they've worked through issues pertaining to the CFP expansion. They may or may not agree about that. But they are coming to grips with the likelihood of a scheduling alliance and have come ideas about where to go beyond that.

Yes, they were content with the cap at 19.
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Randy Levine and Cody Campbell were content with it. That we know. They are the people squealing right now about any raise of the cap over 20.

Greg Sankey and Tony Petitti? They don’t seem to be as bothered as those two. And why should they be? Their conferences can expand or not as they please, deciding their own cap absent any external one.

When Mr. Levine and Mr. Campbell sound alarms about “blowing up” the ACC, they sure don’t sound like people who share your belief that the P2 conferences are wedded to the status quo.

We’ll see how things go.

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(10-08-2026 11:27 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(10-08-2026 11:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-08-2026 10:35 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(10-08-2026 09:14 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Campbell doesn’t want this. This is much bigger than Texas Tech.

I’ve seen no evidence Campbell is.
....

Campbell is just trying to keep his name in the public eye. The pressure is coming from the schools, and it is out a fear of being left out of something the public likely knows nothing about as of yet. There's been a lot of cooperation between the SEC leadership and the Big Ten's leadership as they've worked through issues pertaining to the CFP expansion. They may or may not agree about that. But they are coming to grips with the likelihood of a scheduling alliance and have come ideas about where to go beyond that.

Yes, they were content with the cap at 19.
....

Randy Levine and Cody Campbell were content with it. That we know. They are the people squealing right now about any raise of the cap over 20.

Greg Sankey and Tony Petitti? They don’t seem to be as bothered as those two. And why should they be? Their conferences can expand or not as they please, deciding their own cap absent any external one.

When Mr. Levine and Mr. Campbell sound alarms about schools “blowing up” the ACC, they sure don’t sound like people who share your belief that the P2 conferences are wedded to the status quo.

We’ll see how things go.

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My belief? It's what has been asserted over and over again by conference officials. The problem with caps is that there are more entities who can exploit them than just the SEC or Big Ten. The more they pay the best, the fewer the contracts the networks need and the more they can do without unless they are streaming only and paid by the stream. Consolidation is a network endeavor. If it is going to happen the SEC and Big Ten have some ideas on what is and isn't acceptable to them, but it is a network idea. Consolidating your most popular units to create purchase synergy is simply business 101.
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