Dr Dawgma III
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RE: Protect College Sports Act
(10-06-2026 02:47 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote: (10-06-2026 02:11 PM)bullet Wrote: (10-06-2026 01:44 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote: (10-06-2026 12:15 PM)bullet Wrote: (10-06-2026 10:50 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote: Clemson is not a larger brand than Tennessee and LSU. That's just common sense.
That's not common sense at all. It may be true, but they are pretty close:
TV ratings 2013-21 (average of top 36 games):
6 LSU 6.636 million
10 Clemson 5.419 million
17 Tennessee 4.377 million
National Titles recognized outside of Knoxville (I think Tennessee claims every title not claimed by Alabama):
LSU 4
Clemson 3
Tennessee 2
Top 3 finishes 1961-2025:
13 Tie Clemson 6
14 Tie LSU 5
19-23 Tie Tennessee 3
Top 5 finishes 1961-2025
15-18 tie Clemson 7
15-18 tie LSU 7
15-18 tie Tennessee 7
(other tied is Auburn-behind 1-14 Ohio St., Alabama, OU, Texas, USC, Notre Dame, FSU, Penn St., Nebraska, Michigan, Miami FL, Georgia, Florida, Oregon)
TV ratings don't tell the entire story because they are extremely nuanced and based on a lot of different variables including opponent and network/channel. Also, rankings are not indicative of brand strength either. Fanbase, however, is.
Walk into Neyland Stadium on game day and tell me that Tennessee doesn't have a larger fanbase than Clemson. I am not even sure Clemson has more fans than USC. At least those county maps don't back it up.
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Clemson outside of Dabo is a tweener top 25 caliber brand. That's it. Also, it looks like their flame is growing dimmer by the season. Tell me you saw that game vs Miami?
For brand we are talking about people who will watch nationally, not how many people attend their games. Miami is without a doubt a top 20 brand nationally, but their local fan base pales in comparison to the other top 20 brands. Same for Oregon.
4 year average attendance. Kentucky, Iowa St., Purdue and probably South Carolina are not top 30 brands, even though they are top 30 in attendance. Oregon and Miami don't make the top 30. A bigger local fan base doesn't guarantee more people will watch you nationally.
Clemson is #14, ahead of Notre Dame. Notre Dame is a top 5 brand, not #16.
1 Michigan 110,402
2 Penn State 107,815
3 Ohio State 104,194
4 Texas 101,655
5 Tennessee 101,569
6 Texas A&M 101,363
7 LSU 100,608
8 Alabama 99,803
9 Georgia 92,890
10 Florida 89,227
11 Auburn 87,333
12 Nebraska 86,722
13 Oklahoma 83,655
14 Clemson 80,494
15 South Carolina 78,070
16 Notre Dame 77,265
17 Wisconsin 74,003
18 Arkansas 70,407
19 Iowa 69,250
20 Michigan State 68,739
21 Southern Cal 67,478
22 Washington 67,213
23 Florida State 66,330
24 Mississippi 65,088
25 Virginia Tech 63,592
26 BYU 62,064
27 Kentucky 59,631
28 Iowa State 59,119
29 Missouri 58,664
30 Purdue 57,961
I’d be interested to compare 5/10/15 year tv numbers and attendance of Clemson vs ND vs UVA. Esayem either has his mind made up on the topic or he has an agenda here, nothing we post is going to convince that Clemson is an actual football Brand, or that water is wet for that matter.
Ever been to SC, or the Southeast for that matter?
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