https://helsing.ai/hx-2

German-engineered defense technology is actively being deployed by the Ukrainian military to target and eliminate Russian soldiers, primarily through AI-assisted drones funded by the German government.


How It Kills: Russian forces heavily rely on electronic warfare (EW) to jam signals and sever the link between a Ukrainian drone and its pilot right before impact. The HX-2 counters this by requiring a human operator only to identify and "lock onto" the target. Once locked, if Russian jamming cuts the signal, the onboard German AI takes over, self-navigates the final flight path, and destroys the target independently


I’m not sure how I feel about this. Germans also have unmanned vehicles AI capable as well ground soldier robots. AI plus advanced weaponry is worrisome. I have read reports although not confirmed where these AI ground robots killed a number of Russian soldiers and took over a stronghold. Whether or not it’s true is not the crux whether or not it could happen….definitely.

All of this is fully capable beyond human control. Robots are killing soldiers and can do so autonomously.

I fear Terminator now was just a vision into the future. Better strap up it’s going to get weirder and weirder.

Are these being operated by German forces?? If so, isn't Germany technically at war with Russia?
Does Russia have the right to retaliate without triggering NATO Article 5 since technically Germany is the aggressor and Russia is defending itself?

(08-30-2026 01:36 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  I fear Terminator now was just a vision into the future.

Correct.

Quote:Better strap up it’s going to get weirder and weirder.

Also correct.

(08-30-2026 07:10 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-30-2026 01:36 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  I fear Terminator now was just a vision into the future.

Correct.

Quote:Better strap up it’s going to get weirder and weirder.

Also correct.

and it was only 150 yrs. ago our species was still churnin' butter by mule ...

@cheekyFeller #exponentialTTTimes

(08-30-2026 04:24 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  Are these being operated by German forces??

How would we know? How could we tell? If Germany claims that Ukraine is “operating” the weapons, does that settle the question?

(08-30-2026 04:24 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  Are these being operated by German forces?? If so, isn't Germany technically at war with Russia?
Does Russia have the right to retaliate without triggering NATO Article 5 since technically Germany is the aggressor and Russia is defending itself?

Ukraine has become a proxie of Germany through NATO. There is a lot of bad blood between the Germans and Russians. East Germans experiment with the Allies ceding to Russia should have never happened. Those chickens are starting to come home to roost. Germany is basically testing their technological superiority on the battlefield. Helsing Drone is just one weapon of many they are developing. An ex military guy told me they are developing space age weapons in real time. I saw the German underwater version of our AK47. I’ve also seen their idea of unmanned submarines.

Russians cannot battle NATO in any sense conventionally. Putin and the Russian population are no longer in a war of attrition they just don’t know it. They are in a war where German Engineers and Scientists are advancing their weapons at their soldiers expense. Reports of Russian casualties are somewhere between 1.2 to 1.5 million confirmed over 1/2 million dead. The longer this goes the more advanced these AI Robots will become. And, as I have told over and over once ONE robot armed with AI learns something THEY ALL KNOW IT.

(08-30-2026 07:16 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-30-2026 04:24 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  Are these being operated by German forces??

How would we know? How could we tell? If Germany claims that Ukraine is “operating” the weapons, does that settle the question?

There is a way we could possibly know if the Germans are communicating via satellite as Ukraine is using Star Link.

If Germans have “military advisors” inside Ukraine it becomes almost impossible to substantiate.

My guess is the Germans are just instructing Ukrainians on how to use only.

The Germans are also providing put together kits for long range ballistic missiles to sell to Ukraine. That’s not the correct terminology but you get the idea.

(08-30-2026 07:29 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(08-30-2026 04:24 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  Are these being operated by German forces?? If so, isn't Germany technically at war with Russia?
Does Russia have the right to retaliate without triggering NATO Article 5 since technically Germany is the aggressor and Russia is defending itself?

Ukraine has become a proxie of Germany through NATO. There is a lot of bad blood between the Germans and Russians. East Germans experiment with the Allies ceding to Russia should have never happened. Those chickens are starting to come home to roost. Germany is basically testing their technological superiority on the battlefield. Helsing Drone is just one weapon of many they are developing. An ex military guy told me they are developing space age weapons in real time. I saw the German underwater version of our AK47. I’ve also seen their idea of unmanned submarines.

Russians cannot battle NATO in any sense conventionally. Putin and the Russian population are no longer in a war of attrition they just don’t know it. They are in a war where German Engineers and Scientists are advancing their weapons at their soldiers expense. Reports of Russian casualties are somewhere between 1.2 to 1.5 million confirmed over 1/2 million dead. The longer this goes the more advanced these AI Robots will become. And, as I have told over and over once ONE robot armed with AI learns something THEY ALL KNOW IT.

Very true and very scary.
At least the name "Helsing" is cool!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Van_Helsing

I know Poland would VERY much like a chance to get back at the Russians.

BlueDragon continues to do a quality job keeping us posted regarding the Ukraine military. Much appreciated.

I continue to take note of how the Ukraine military has exhibited such staying power.

From what I can determine, there has been very little hand-to-hand combat. BDragon, WSME and/or AttackCoog would know. I see this:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/45308



On a lighter note: Stink with the line and it was only 150 yrs. ago our species was still churnin' butter by mule ...

... "Churnin' Butter by a Mule" would be a strong title for a bluegrass song.

(08-30-2026 04:24 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  Are these being operated by German forces?? If so, isn't Germany technically at war with Russia?
Does Russia have the right to retaliate without triggering NATO Article 5 since technically Germany is the aggressor and Russia is defending itself?

I think Russia already crossed that line when it used N.K. soldiers in it's war against Ukraine. Will Ukraine declare war against NK because of this?

(08-30-2026 08:14 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  BlueDragon continues to do a quality job keeping us posted regarding the Ukraine military. Much appreciated.

I continue to take note of how the Ukraine military has exhibited such staying power.

From what I can determine, there has been very little hand-to-hand combat. BDragon, WSME and/or AttackCoog would know. I see this:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/45308



On a lighter note: Stink with the line and it was only 150 yrs. ago our species was still churnin' butter by mule ...

... "Churnin' Butter by a Mule" would be a strong title for a bluegrass song.

I wrote it upon muh last awakening ... Am, C, G --->>> Fm, D with a handful of opens and enharmonics with chickin' pickin' ...

(08-30-2026 08:14 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  BlueDragon continues to do a quality job keeping us posted regarding the Ukraine military. Much appreciated.

I continue to take note of how the Ukraine military has exhibited such staying power.

From what I can determine, there has been very little hand-to-hand combat. BDragon, WSME and/or AttackCoog would know. I see this:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/45308



On a lighter note: Stink with the line and it was only 150 yrs. ago our species was still churnin' butter by mule ...

... "Churnin' Butter by a Mule" would be a strong title for a bluegrass song.

Yeah, and while Putin and the Russians are still living in the past with one hand to hand combat death the Ukrainians through German intelligence are destroying all of Russian infrastructure from Refineries to their wheat fields to their Wild Berries Distribution Centers. If this keeps up Russia will have a modern day famine.

Its unbelievable to me that as Technocorrupt as Russians are with the internet they are so slow to see whats happening in real time.

https://www.arx-robotics.com/

Bill, these Neanderthal Russians have no idea what they are up against. And when you think back to WW2 the German Military was way more advanced than any of the Allies. Now, you no longer need a large military and we are starting to see what that looks like.

Russia won't take Ukraine ever as long as this is advancing and may well lose all of their men of fighting age if they continue.

I have been around heavy machinery my whole life and no one's equipment is as sophisticated as the Germans and the Japanese aren't far behind. I know full well there isn't anything we have militarily they could not produce themselves. Including Nuclear.

(08-30-2026 07:29 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(08-30-2026 04:24 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  Are these being operated by German forces?? If so, isn't Germany technically at war with Russia?
Does Russia have the right to retaliate without triggering NATO Article 5 since technically Germany is the aggressor and Russia is defending itself?

Ukraine has become a proxie of Germany through NATO. There is a lot of bad blood between the Germans and Russians. East Germans experiment with the Allies ceding to Russia should have never happened. Those chickens are starting to come home to roost. Germany is basically testing their technological superiority on the battlefield. Helsing Drone is just one weapon of many they are developing. An ex military guy told me they are developing space age weapons in real time. I saw the German underwater version of our AK47. I’ve also seen their idea of unmanned submarines.

Russians cannot battle NATO in any sense conventionally. Putin and the Russian population are no longer in a war of attrition they just don’t know it. They are in a war where German Engineers and Scientists are advancing their weapons at their soldiers expense. Reports of Russian casualties are somewhere between 1.2 to 1.5 million confirmed over 1/2 million dead. The longer this goes the more advanced these AI Robots will become. And, as I have told over and over once ONE robot armed with AI learns something THEY ALL KNOW IT.

physics ... unlike the dodo, she's an interesting bird...





I see a lot of JR in this guy ...

It is inevitable, IMO, that AI robots will war against other AI robots and humans will compose elite units for specific tasks.

It is scary, but it could save lives because surrender will be the only viable option after losing the robot battles much like in the 18th century besieged troops without chances of breakout were doomed (eg Yorktown) and surrendered before catastrophe loss of life.

Just how far can the bullet go with efficiency? Is this gun for frogmen? Why would a regular soldier have a need for such a gun?

(08-30-2026 09:59 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is inevitable, IMO, that AI robots will war against other AI robots and humans will compose elite units for specific tasks.

It is scary, but it could save lives because surrender will be the only viable option after losing the robot battles much like in the 18th century besieged troops without chances of breakout were doomed (eg Yorktown) and surrendered before catastrophe loss of life.

the flaw in that equation is mixing time with today's tech...

if there's one thingy that = 1, whenever that shite hits the proverbial, the result will only belong to those that can ... they'll initially find resolve until they choke on their own bile...

Ja! ... it's an ugly Van Gogh with no ears ...

Russia only keeps up the slaughter of Slavs because Putin’s life depends on it.

(08-30-2026 09:54 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-30-2026 07:29 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(08-30-2026 04:24 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  Are these being operated by German forces?? If so, isn't Germany technically at war with Russia?
Does Russia have the right to retaliate without triggering NATO Article 5 since technically Germany is the aggressor and Russia is defending itself?

Ukraine has become a proxie of Germany through NATO. There is a lot of bad blood between the Germans and Russians. East Germans experiment with the Allies ceding to Russia should have never happened. Those chickens are starting to come home to roost. Germany is basically testing their technological superiority on the battlefield. Helsing Drone is just one weapon of many they are developing. An ex military guy told me they are developing space age weapons in real time. I saw the German underwater version of our AK47. I’ve also seen their idea of unmanned submarines.

Russians cannot battle NATO in any sense conventionally. Putin and the Russian population are no longer in a war of attrition they just don’t know it. They are in a war where German Engineers and Scientists are advancing their weapons at their soldiers expense. Reports of Russian casualties are somewhere between 1.2 to 1.5 million confirmed over 1/2 million dead. The longer this goes the more advanced these AI Robots will become. And, as I have told over and over once ONE robot armed with AI learns something THEY ALL KNOW IT.

physics ... unlike the dodo, she's an interesting bird...





I see a lot of JR in this guy ...

Wish I could find that link and the German Military in Scuba gear firing them.

Here is a site on the German Military assault rifles

https://www.cg-haenel.de/en/products/mk556/

(08-30-2026 09:37 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(08-30-2026 08:14 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  BlueDragon continues to do a quality job keeping us posted regarding the Ukraine military. Much appreciated.

I continue to take note of how the Ukraine military has exhibited such staying power.

From what I can determine, there has been very little hand-to-hand combat. BDragon, WSME and/or AttackCoog would know. I see this:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/45308



On a lighter note: Stink with the line and it was only 150 yrs. ago our species was still churnin' butter by mule ...

... "Churnin' Butter by a Mule" would be a strong title for a bluegrass song.

Yeah, and while Putin and the Russians are still living in the past with one hand to hand combat death the Ukrainians through German intelligence are destroying all of Russian infrastructure from Refineries to their wheat fields to their Wild Berries Distribution Centers. If this keeps up Russia will have a modern day famine.

Its unbelievable to me that as Technocorrupt as Russians are with the internet they are so slow to see whats happening in real time.

https://www.arx-robotics.com/

Bill, these Neanderthal Russians have no idea what they are up against. And when you think back to WW2 the German Military was way more advanced than any of the Allies. Now, you no longer need a large military and we are starting to see what that looks like.

Russia won't take Ukraine ever as long as this is advancing and may well lose all of their men of fighting age if they continue.

I have been around heavy machinery my whole life and no one's equipment is as sophisticated as the Germans and the Japanese aren't far behind. I know full well there isn't anything we have militarily they could not produce themselves. Including Nuclear.

Thanks for this info, WSME. You and some others on the board do a strong job of following this situation.

(08-30-2026 09:26 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-30-2026 08:14 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  BlueDragon continues to do a quality job keeping us posted regarding the Ukraine military. Much appreciated.

I continue to take note of how the Ukraine military has exhibited such staying power.

From what I can determine, there has been very little hand-to-hand combat. BDragon, WSME and/or AttackCoog would know. I see this:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/45308



On a lighter note: Stink with the line and it was only 150 yrs. ago our species was still churnin' butter by mule ...

... "Churnin' Butter by a Mule" would be a strong title for a bluegrass song.

I wrote it upon muh last awakening ... Am, C, G --->>> Fm, D with a handful of opens and enharmonics with chickin' pickin' ...