(04-03-2026 08:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 04:14 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 04:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 01:05 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 12:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Maybe only slightly more so than China or North Korea. Nuclear weapons to them are most likely deterrents for states like Israel and us. Nuking countries next door to them makes no sense and nuking us, which would result in their destruction makes no sense either.

But the bottom line, again, is that they're nowhere near a deliverable one based on anything we know.

Based on anything you know but I would bet Israel and American intelligence services know a bit more. You also cannot compare religious zealots with communists. Communist worship government. Theocracies operate under the illusion that they are doing Allah's will and will be protected or rewarded for their actions.

Israel is led by Bibi
US is led by trump.

You can't trust a word either one says when it comes to Iran.

Really? Did you trust Biden? Harris? Blinken? Austin? Garland? Buttigieg? Mayorkas?

Nope. Not blindly.

correct. you did it eyes wide open.

(04-03-2026 08:25 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't think very many here do that, either. Many of us question Trump on a regular basis.

Not meant to be personal, but I don't recall you criticizing Biden.

Well, I did on occasion...like the SPR release to name one. But that's not the same thing as trusting blindly, at all.

(04-03-2026 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 08:25 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't think very many here do that, either. Many of us question Trump on a regular basis.

Not meant to be personal, but I don't recall you criticizing Biden.

Well, I did on occasion...like the SPR release to name one. But that's not the same thing as trusting blindly, at all.

If you never criticize somebody? That certainly would be a possible indicator, as opposed to criticizing things on occasion.

(04-03-2026 08:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 08:25 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't think very many here do that, either. Many of us question Trump on a regular basis.

Not meant to be personal, but I don't recall you criticizing Biden.

Well, I did on occasion...like the SPR release to name one. But that's not the same thing as trusting blindly, at all.

If you never criticize somebody? That certainly would be a possible indicator, as opposed to criticizing things on occasion.

But never doesn't apply to me. And I don't have to post every criticism here...especially when it was a multiple time daily occurrence here already. Like you, I don't trust any politician.

Up to $4.09 today.

There's plenty of oil, and plenty here...it's the Insurance companies mostly holding prices up. Might want to have Blanche at DOJ look into recent Insurance Executives' portfolio trades. They always seem to find ways to do grift and take advantage by over/underinflating so they can grab quick millions in personal benefits at the expense of everyone else....Similar to price-gouging during Hurricanes and disasters, are there not limits to reign in these grifters at times like these?

BTW, wasn't too thrilled that Trump1.0 opened up US Oil and petroliates to foreign purchasers the way he did back then for this very reason. Appears we might do better to keep our oil for US and let Thems worry about themselves. Oil seems too strategic to just let the world market dictate the price we pay for our own stuff.

(04-03-2026 09:22 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  There's plenty of oil, and plenty here...it's the Insurance companies mostly holding prices up. Might want to have Blanche at DOJ look into recent Insurance Executives' portfolio trades. They always seem to find ways to do grift and take advantage by over/underinflating so they can grab quick millions in personal benefits at the expense of everyone else....Similar to price-gouging during Hurricanes and disasters, are there not limits to reign in these grifters at times like these?

BTW, wasn't too thrilled that Trump1.0 opened up US Oil and petroliates to foreign purchasers the way he did back then for this very reason. Appears we might do better to keep our oil for US and let Thems worry about themselves. Oil seems too strategic to just let the world market dictate the price we pay for our own stuff.

I'd think the owners of the oil fields would want to have a say in what they sell their oil. Or are you planning on nationalizing all of the fields?

(04-03-2026 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Up to $4.09 today.

What was it yesterday? $4.08 or $4.06? :)

(04-03-2026 09:25 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 09:22 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  There's plenty of oil, and plenty here...it's the Insurance companies mostly holding prices up. Might want to have Blanche at DOJ look into recent Insurance Executives' portfolio trades. They always seem to find ways to do grift and take advantage by over/underinflating so they can grab quick millions in personal benefits at the expense of everyone else....Similar to price-gouging during Hurricanes and disasters, are there not limits to reign in these grifters at times like these?

BTW, wasn't too thrilled that Trump1.0 opened up US Oil and petroliates to foreign purchasers the way he did back then for this very reason. Appears we might do better to keep our oil for US and let Thems worry about themselves. Oil seems too strategic to just let the world market dictate the price we pay for our own stuff.

I'd think the owners of the oil fields would want to have a say in what they sell their oil. Or are you planning on nationalizing all of the fields?

I'm trying to locate the law/rule/order that he changed during his first term. My understanding is that since the 1970's oil crisis, we had viewed oil as too strategic to let them whims of world events too heavily impact our access here, so for decades we limited sales to US-only or something akin. I might have the exact deatils wrong (and would appreciate help on that), but I think you know what I'm referring to.

If anyone can help locate the before/after changes, it would help with this discussion. I'm just saying don't sell your bullets on the open market when you need more of them for yourself when you're fighting a war. So, no to your nationalizing characterization, but I'm not sure the previous policy that he changed wouldn't have helped US in this scenario, and I recall being concerned about this exact scenario when he did it back then (for reasons you indicate more or less) and not so much pushback, if I recall correctly. So, America First.

We can get "our allies" into helping secure the Strait immediately. We can say we will "escort" every ship coming through, but we will charge a $2million tariff on every ship to be paid by the receiver of the cargo. It would end immediately. Every country in the world that gets raw materials via that Strait would come running to help THEMSELVES. We would make a fortune in the meantime.

(04-03-2026 10:51 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  We can get "our allies" into helping secure the Strait immediately. We can say we will "escort" every ship coming through, but we will charge a $2million tariff on every ship to be paid by the receiver of the cargo. It would end immediately. Every country in the world that gets raw materials via that Strait would come running to help THEMSELVES. We would make a fortune in the meantime.

Oh. You mean racketeering.

Take violent action and make a commodity scarce. Then offer to ‘protect’ that commodity from the consequences of your own actions for a hefty fee.

(04-03-2026 08:25 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't think very many here do that, either. Many of us question Trump on a regular basis.

Not meant to be personal, but I don't recall you criticizing Biden.

That’s because Biden is a Dem. The OPEC deal he whines about expired in 2022. You know well into Biden’s term but what was the brain dead idle fool and his whore of a VP to do? Negotiate? If brain cells were wood them two hapless f*cks wouldn’t had enough to start a fire. But Trump’s fault cause the President and VP can’t negotiate or should I say won’t.

(04-03-2026 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Up to $4.09 today.

Since you're so anxious to post the daily gas price updates when it goes up by so much as a penny, we can't wait to see if you give us the daily updates when the price starts going back down.

(04-03-2026 11:30 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Up to $4.09 today.

Since you're so anxious to post the daily gas price updates when it goes up by so much as a penny, we can't wait to see if you give us the daily updates when the price starts going back down.

Spoiler alert he won’t.

(04-03-2026 11:31 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 11:30 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Up to $4.09 today.

Since you're so anxious to post the daily gas price updates when it goes up by so much as a penny, we can't wait to see if you give us the daily updates when the price starts going back down.

Spoiler alert he won’t.

Yeah, he won't be planning to log in those days, lol.

(04-03-2026 11:33 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 11:31 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 11:30 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Up to $4.09 today.

Since you're so anxious to post the daily gas price updates when it goes up by so much as a penny, we can't wait to see if you give us the daily updates when the price starts going back down.

Spoiler alert he won’t.

Yeah, he won't be planning to log in those days, lol.

He’ll log in but it’ll be a different TDS plight

(04-03-2026 11:30 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(04-03-2026 08:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Up to $4.09 today.

Since you're so anxious to post the daily gas price updates when it goes up by so much as a penny, we can't wait to see if you give us the daily updates when the price starts going back down.

Not a chance in Hades. TDS only works in one direction.

(04-02-2026 03:52 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 03:07 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 01:29 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 10:38 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 09:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah, thanks trump for stopping that assured happening that was only a week or two away!

So you don't think a nuclear armed Iran is a threat to us or our allies? You would be one of the few.

The issue posed prior to your response wasnt the retort to replied with, mind you.

The issue is the imminent threat, sir. Not your broad generalized comment that you think is quite the comeback. Again, note the issue of *imminent* that you simply shelved in your rush to try and post some form of comeback.

To answer your separate question -- a nuclear armed iran *could* be a threat to us or our allies. Which is *not* the issue posed, that is 'is a necear armed Iran a viability in the urgency to smack them'?

If you want to extend the length of time to encompass your general reply, I think the country of Angola if armed with nukes *could* be a threat to us or our allies -- to simply highlight the issue for you. In no way do we need to stop that effort with a month+ special military operation. Just like what is happening with Iran presently.

Hard to reply to this as it appears to be the incoherent ramblings of someone who seems to think he can read other people's minds.

That's the way he Rolls. He likes to muddy the water so to speak. That's why he said "The issue is the imminent threat" He sounds like he's not worried until they pull the triggers. In his world it has to be imminent for him to worry about it.

I guess you don’t understand the very common word ‘imminent’. Bummer.

I see the “sqwark!!!!! TDS!!! TDS!!!! TDS” myna birds who think that is the answer to everything are out in full force today. Lolz.

(04-03-2026 01:52 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I see the “sqwark!!!!! TDS!!! TDS!!!! TDS” myna birds who think that is the answer to everything are out in full force today. Lolz.

Well beats you and Tommy screaming Orange Man bad. But apparently we struck a nerve on you. Sorry sweetie I forgot how delicate you are. Lolz