Thune sent the partial DHS funding back to the House

What's the over under on the Reconciliation bill the Senate creating being a big time crap fest?

It will have the ICE and Border Patrol funding sure, but if you think the Senators aren't going to put a bunch of other crap in there that Trump doesn't want you better get ready.

And Trump and the House have no leverage now, because what are they going to do, vote down/veto the ICE and Border Patrol funding they've been demanding?

ICE is already funded through FY 2029. CBP is funded through the end of this FY.

Thune just said additional funding for future years will be done with a reconciliation bill. He said it's obvious the Dems aren't going to vote for anything, so that's the only path to take.

And the Dems got zero of the reforms they supposedly shut down the government for.

Big deficits, lots of borrowing, bloated budgets, globalist wars.

Sad to say, but Trump is selling us all out in a lot of ways.

(04-02-2026 08:18 AM)Todor Wrote:  Big deficits, lots of borrowing, bloated budgets, globalist wars.

Sad to say, but Trump is selling us all out in a lot of ways.

Remember when he was going to erase the national debt, end crime, cut energy prices in half, lower food costs, fix health care...........

(04-02-2026 08:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 08:18 AM)Todor Wrote:  Big deficits, lots of borrowing, bloated budgets, globalist wars.

Sad to say, but Trump is selling us all out in a lot of ways.

Remember when he was going to erase the national debt, end crime, cut energy prices in half, lower food costs, fix health care...........

Funny, you didn't gripe about anything while the Vegetable was in charge.

(04-02-2026 08:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  ICE is already funded through FY 2029. CBP is funded through the end of this FY.

Thune just said additional funding for future years will be done with a reconciliation bill. He said it's obvious the Dems aren't going to vote for anything, so that's the only path to take.

And the Dems got zero of the reforms they supposedly shut down the government for.

We all knew there wouldn't be 60 votes going into this

So congratulations Senators you just wasted 3 months, ruined the smidgen of a reputation you had, hurt the one department in the government not overrun by liberal ideology, and proved to be more hardline in opposing your base than you do the actual opposition party

I don't believe they are that dumb so logically I have one conclusion I can draw from it

(04-02-2026 09:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 08:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  ICE is already funded through FY 2029. CBP is funded through the end of this FY.

Thune just said additional funding for future years will be done with a reconciliation bill. He said it's obvious the Dems aren't going to vote for anything, so that's the only path to take.

And the Dems got zero of the reforms they supposedly shut down the government for.

We all knew there wouldn't be 60 votes going into this

So congratulations Senators you just wasted 3 months, ruined the smidgen of a reputation you had, hurt the one department in the government not overrun by liberal ideology, and proved to be more hardline in opposing your base than you do the actual opposition party

I don't believe they are that dumb so logically I have one conclusion I can draw from it

The House passed it, so the Senate had no reasonable choice but to try to pass it, too. I agree it took too long, but what else do they do in Congress besides argue about legislation?

I'm actually not trying to defend Thune, I'm just not sure why you are concerned about the effort, when that's their job.

Moving on to any other meaningful legislation is also useless, if it requires 60 votes. That's the problem with everything. Are you saying they should just go to reconciliation and not try on a bill passed by the House?

(04-02-2026 09:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 09:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 08:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  ICE is already funded through FY 2029. CBP is funded through the end of this FY.

Thune just said additional funding for future years will be done with a reconciliation bill. He said it's obvious the Dems aren't going to vote for anything, so that's the only path to take.

And the Dems got zero of the reforms they supposedly shut down the government for.

We all knew there wouldn't be 60 votes going into this

So congratulations Senators you just wasted 3 months, ruined the smidgen of a reputation you had, hurt the one department in the government not overrun by liberal ideology, and proved to be more hardline in opposing your base than you do the actual opposition party

I don't believe they are that dumb so logically I have one conclusion I can draw from it

The House passed it, so the Senate had no reasonable choice but to try to pass it, too. I agree it took too long, but what else do they do in Congress besides argue about legislation?

I'm actually not trying to defend Thune, I'm just not sure why you are concerned about the effort, when that's their job.

Moving on to any other meaningful legislation is also useless, if it requires 60 votes. That's the problem with everything. Are you saying they should just go to reconciliation and not try on a bill passed by the House?

My point is the GOP Senate is the biggest obstruction to an America First agenda. The Senate can get things done when they choose to. I remember Cocaine Mitch and his judicial approval spree.

Keep the filibuster, but make the Dems actually do it. This whole artificial 60 vote threshold is tiresome especially when the Democrats have and still acknowledge they are going to do away with it. Senate GOPers hide behind the 60 vote threshold so they don't have to vote for things they approve publicly but refute privately

It's all tiresome and stupid

Whomever gets rid of the filibuster will get skull drug in the next election.

I don't think they should get rid of the fillibuster - i think they should actually make them do it

For example - the current government shutdown has lasted 44 days

Why on earth have they not made the Democratic Senators actually filibuster during this 44 day shutdown?

Don't you think you might have gotten some concessions if they actually had to miss their vacations to stand in an empty Senate all night?

You don't need 60 votes once the filibuster is broken/exhausted and there is a two speech limit.

Get the Vice President to sit in the chair and strictly enforce the rules of the fillibuster.

What do you have to lose??? This alternative route would still exist

(04-02-2026 08:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  ICE is already funded through FY 2029. CBP is funded through the end of this FY.

Thune just said additional funding for future years will be done with a reconciliation bill. He said it's obvious the Dems aren't going to vote for anything, so that's the only path to take.

And the Dems got zero of the reforms they supposedly shut down the government for.

ICE backoffice support isn't funded. Only the frontline.

(04-02-2026 10:20 AM)solohawks Wrote:  I don't think they should get rid of the fillibuster - i think they should actually make them do it

For example - the current government shutdown has lasted 44 days

Why on earth have they not made the Democratic Senators actually filibuster during this 44 day shutdown?

Don't you think you might have gotten some concessions if they actually had to miss their vacations to stand in an empty Senate all night?

You don't need 60 votes once the filibuster is broken/exhausted and there is a two speech limit.

Get the Vice President to sit in the chair and strictly enforce the rules of the fillibuster.

What do you have to lose??? This alternative route would still exist

They make it way too easy. Its a stupid, ridiculous, meaningless, extra-constitutional process.

(04-02-2026 01:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-02-2026 08:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  ICE is already funded through FY 2029. CBP is funded through the end of this FY.

Thune just said additional funding for future years will be done with a reconciliation bill. He said it's obvious the Dems aren't going to vote for anything, so that's the only path to take.

And the Dems got zero of the reforms they supposedly shut down the government for.

ICE backoffice support isn't funded. Only the frontline.

True, I forgot about that. But the answer is still going to be reconciliation.