(02-28-2026 11:48 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  I’ll ask the question: I support a regime change, but I don’t support putting troops(non-special forces) on the ground.

Do we think this will be like the 12 day war where Iran’s response is pretty weak or do we think they have fuel left in the tank and there are some allies of theirs that will work hand in hand in their Sunday response?

They seem to be firing off, recklessly into surrounding Arab nations not named Iraq or Pakistan.

Also, for the retards, asking why we don’t hit Russia for having Nukes. They’re literally right next door and what threats have they made to the U.S.? Ukraine isn’t an ally nor a member of any world or European alliance we are part of. That’s a simple territorial expansion. Also, how many has Russia lost in that war? Who are they gonna send to fight us? You realize they colluded with Hillary to try and frame Trump, right? There’s intelligence reports proving just that.

Regime change in Iran is great, if a new regime follows and not just chaos. I just wish we weren't the ones creating it.

(03-01-2026 05:58 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(03-01-2026 12:18 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I just saw a plume of smoke coming from Iraq ~1hr ago ... just caught it browsing ... fwiw...

Quote:Baghdad (IraqiNews.com) — According to reports, thick black smoke rose from Erbil International Airport in northern Iraq on Sunday after reports of Iranian drone and ballistic missile attacks.

I stated a couple of weeks ago to expect weeks of hellfire from the air (US and Israel) ... I've seen nothing to change that opinion to date...

I'm taking DJT at his word it's up to the people of Iran how this plays out once we take out the islamic republic's ability to engage at scale...

I'm also not discounting some rogue cell stateside making a move in the next few weeks just to sway public opinion, either...

we're just approaching the 1 day mark ... stay tuned....

I agree with this sentiment as well

It feels like Iran is trying to terrorize their neighbors into pressuring the US and Israel to stop

A weak hail mary that has very little opportunity for success

The Iranian people have a strong unified culture and history, unlike Iraq. They are not backwater tribesman in a land that is simply some borders drawn up by European leaders a century ago that has been nothing but a conquered territory throughout its history like Afghanistan

They are as the core Persian not Islamists

Is there a chance for a power vacuum, sure, but radical Islamists already run the country. This isn't like Iraq where we were overthrowing a secular dictator and Islamists filled the void.

Well they've got Azeris and Kurds in the north. Baluchstan bordering Pakistan, Arabs bordering Iraq. And a few other minority groups. They could split. Azerbaijan might take advantage to expand their territory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicitie...n_2004.jpg

(03-01-2026 10:41 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 10:53 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 10:42 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Tucker Carlson cements himself as an antisemitic America hating pos like the progressives.

I believe he's gone back in time and surgically implanted those old bowties up his bungholio ... that sumbiatch has left the plantation...

I've been saying that since he became Putin's lapdog claiming life was wonderful in Moscow.

Hell ive been called that, its not a good argument. Tucker is a nut but there are better ways to prove it

If you're a leftist and can't see why this was done, watch this. Watch the Iranian people celebrating in Tehran and around the world. Then continue to defend a now-deceased monster. I dare you.

Tucker falls into the gravity of the same black hole all silly shock jocks fall into.

You have to keep coming up with more outrageous sh!t to keep people's attention until you eventually jump the shark and become a ridiculous joke.

Looks like Iran has a new Ayatollah...probably won't last too long.

(03-01-2026 11:01 AM)hburg Wrote:  Looks like Iran has a new Ayatollah...probably won't last too long.

Most likely not. That person's days are numbered.

Oh, and here's an Iranian who's a Democrat chastising her own party for protesting against this military action. On CNN, no less.

(03-01-2026 02:34 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 07:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 06:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It is amazing that we got the intel that all those leaders would be together on Saturday, and then we were prepared well enough to move the schedule up and pull it off without a hitch.

Much more impressive than the attack on the nuclear processing facilities last year. And that was impressive.

They were dumb enough to think they could meet on a Saturday and we wouldn't know about it. Oops.

I'd be surprised if we didn't get it from Israel. We don't seem to do the spy stuff as well as Israel and Britain.

Of course we got it from Israel. I imagine they have infiltrated Iran up the ying yang. White boy Americans or blacks would kind of stick out there, lol. Plus, remember the pagers?

When I say "we," I mean those of us actually fighting the war. You know, the US and Israel.

Plus, it could have simply been intel picked up from electronic communications. That could easily have been from our naval forces in the area.

That counts as spying, too, you know?

P.S. How in the world do you know that our spies aren't as good as Israel's or Britain's?

There's a long history of US failures in live intelligence. And a lot of our successes have come from British or Israeli help. As for Israel-pagers???? Brilliant. They also hacked a prayer group to send messages to Iran's military to lay down their arms. And the CIA has been a literal clown show the last 10 years.

(03-01-2026 10:54 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  If you're a leftist and can't see why this was done, watch this. Watch the Iranian people celebrating in Tehran and around the world. Then continue to defend a now-deceased monster. I dare you.

There were mass celebrations in the streets when Saddam fell. We will be wildly successful at killing all of their leaders. Cynically pretending like you care about the lives of Iranian citizens is funny. None of you actually care, when the “what comes next” part gets here you all want us to just leave them to their fate and if it becomes Libya try to pretend that’s all on them not on us. You’ll go right back to your true feelings about the importance of their lives, which is they only matter when it’s about achieving a goal of Israel’s.

(03-01-2026 11:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-01-2026 02:34 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 07:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 06:54 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It is amazing that we got the intel that all those leaders would be together on Saturday, and then we were prepared well enough to move the schedule up and pull it off without a hitch.

Much more impressive than the attack on the nuclear processing facilities last year. And that was impressive.

They were dumb enough to think they could meet on a Saturday and we wouldn't know about it. Oops.

I'd be surprised if we didn't get it from Israel. We don't seem to do the spy stuff as well as Israel and Britain.

Of course we got it from Israel. I imagine they have infiltrated Iran up the ying yang. White boy Americans or blacks would kind of stick out there, lol. Plus, remember the pagers?

When I say "we," I mean those of us actually fighting the war. You know, the US and Israel.

Plus, it could have simply been intel picked up from electronic communications. That could easily have been from our naval forces in the area.

That counts as spying, too, you know?

P.S. How in the world do you know that our spies aren't as good as Israel's or Britain's?

There's a long history of US failures in live intelligence. And a lot of our successes have come from British or Israeli help. As for Israel-pagers???? Brilliant. They also hacked a prayer group to send messages to Iran's military to lay down their arms. And the CIA has been a literal clown show the last 10 years.

I have a feeling we only mostly hear about the failures, and not the successes. Tough business.

Btw, did you see the thread where the CIA is the one that got the intel to wipe out the Iranian leadership structure?

https://csnbbs.com/thread-1025661.html

(03-01-2026 10:43 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 11:48 PM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  I’ll ask the question: I support a regime change, but I don’t support putting troops(non-special forces) on the ground.

Do we think this will be like the 12 day war where Iran’s response is pretty weak or do we think they have fuel left in the tank and there are some allies of theirs that will work hand in hand in their Sunday response?

They seem to be firing off, recklessly into surrounding Arab nations not named Iraq or Pakistan.

Also, for the retards, asking why we don’t hit Russia for having Nukes. They’re literally right next door and what threats have they made to the U.S.? Ukraine isn’t an ally nor a member of any world or European alliance we are part of. That’s a simple territorial expansion. Also, how many has Russia lost in that war? Who are they gonna send to fight us? You realize they colluded with Hillary to try and frame Trump, right? There’s intelligence reports proving just that.

Regime change in Iran is great, if a new regime follows and not just chaos. I just wish we weren't the ones creating it.

only ones capable ...
one fell swoop ...

BACK TO REALITY

(03-01-2026 11:38 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-01-2026 10:54 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  If you're a leftist and can't see why this was done, watch this. Watch the Iranian people celebrating in Tehran and around the world. Then continue to defend a now-deceased monster. I dare you.

There were mass celebrations in the streets when Saddam fell. We will be wildly successful at killing all of their leaders. Cynically pretending like you care about the lives of Iranian citizens is funny. None of you actually care, when the “what comes next” part gets here you all want us to just leave them to their fate and if it becomes Libya try to pretend that’s all on them not on us. You’ll go right back to your true feelings about the importance of their lives, which is they only matter when it’s about achieving a goal of Israel’s.

You're just mad that the Islamic Republic of Iran, the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the world, is on the verge of collapse and the people it held hostage (the citizens of Iran) are rejoicing. Typical leftist.

(02-28-2026 10:42 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Tucker Carlson cements himself as an antisemitic America hating pos like the progressives.

Yeah---I dont know what happened to the guy---he used to be really worth listening to. Then he completely went off the deep end after leaving FOX---it got worse with his Russian cheerleading Ukrainian War takes---and he has slowly drifted farther and farther into freak show territory ever since. The only thing I can assume is there is a nice little niche audience for crazy crap who are more than willing to pay a subscription fee to see it. I noticed the same thing with Candace Owens---but she's apparently making bank monetizing her internet commentary videos.

Quote:President Donald Trump told CNBC’s Joe Kernen that U.S. military operations in Iran are “ahead of schedule.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/01/us-iran-...rikes.html

TIME WILL TELL

https://genflynn.substack.com/p/end-of-e...irect=true

Three results:
"...1. Regime hunkers down and offers a deal (”recalibration” or “IRGCistan”). Surviving clerics/IRGC hardliners close ranks around a new figurehead (e.g., Ali Larijani or a council). They trade verifiable nuclear/missile/proxy concessions for sanctions relief and breathing room. This is the most likely near-term outcome if internal cohesion holds: a battered but intact theocracy, more pragmatic out of necessity, but still repressive. No full “victory,” but threats neutered enough for de-escalation. Oil markets stabilize; region breathes—but the underlying ideology festers.

2. Regime fractures and collapses (the high-reward scenario). This comes w/ decapitation plus sustained degradation sparking mass defections, security forces stand down, and protests (building on recent waves) overwhelm remaining loyalists. This is what Trump explicitly called for: “the single greatest chance for the Iranian people to take back their Country.” A potential transition vehicle: Exiled Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi has positioned himself as a non-permanent transitional figure. His publicly outlined plan covers the first 100-180 days: stabilize currency/economy, form a National Reconciliation Council, seize state media for transparent messaging, amnesty for non-criminal regime elements, humanitarian corridors, and rapid move to a new secular constitution plus internationally supervised elections. He frames it as “maximum support for the people plus maximum pressure on the regime” to trigger internal tipping points.

Upside: A secular, democratic Iran ends 46 years of theocracy, sponsorship of terror, and nuclear roulette. A regional peace dividend (no more Axis of Resistance funding), economic reopening to Western investment, and a historic win for the Iranian people who’ve shown in repeated uprisings they reject the regime.

Downside risks: Power vacuum invites ethnic/sectarian score-settling (Kurds, Baloch, Arabs, Azeris), IRGC remnants turning insurgent, refugee waves, or looting of remaining WMD assets. Without boots on the ground, external influence is limited to aid, broadcasting, and diplomacy.

3. Prolonged mess or state failure. This comes w/ a partial collapse without coherent opposition leadership. Instead, it entails militias, warlordism, or civil strife akin to post-2011 Libya (not a full Iraq 2003 redux since no occupation). Proxies flare; Gulf states get dragged in deeper; China/Russia exploit chaos for influence. This is the nightmare that “euphoria” blinds people to...history shows airpower degrades regimes but rarely installs stable successors alone.

Never an easy answer.

From the IDF, reported through Fox News: "All senior leaders of terrorist orgs in Iran have now been eliminated."

Well, that took a fast day and a half, lol.

(03-01-2026 12:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  From the IDF, reported through Fox News: "All senior leaders of terrorist orgs in Iran have now been eliminated."

Well, that took a fast day and a half, lol.

Wonder how this would have gone with that fat face shield wearing DEI General in charge of the DoD?

(03-01-2026 12:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://genflynn.substack.com/p/end-of-e...irect=true

Three results:
"...1. Regime hunkers down and offers a deal (”recalibration” or “IRGCistan”). Surviving clerics/IRGC hardliners close ranks around a new figurehead (e.g., Ali Larijani or a council). They trade verifiable nuclear/missile/proxy concessions for sanctions relief and breathing room. This is the most likely near-term outcome if internal cohesion holds: a battered but intact theocracy, more pragmatic out of necessity, but still repressive. No full “victory,” but threats neutered enough for de-escalation. Oil markets stabilize; region breathes—but the underlying ideology festers.

2. Regime fractures and collapses (the high-reward scenario). This comes w/ decapitation plus sustained degradation sparking mass defections, security forces stand down, and protests (building on recent waves) overwhelm remaining loyalists. This is what Trump explicitly called for: “the single greatest chance for the Iranian people to take back their Country.” A potential transition vehicle: Exiled Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi has positioned himself as a non-permanent transitional figure. His publicly outlined plan covers the first 100-180 days: stabilize currency/economy, form a National Reconciliation Council, seize state media for transparent messaging, amnesty for non-criminal regime elements, humanitarian corridors, and rapid move to a new secular constitution plus internationally supervised elections. He frames it as “maximum support for the people plus maximum pressure on the regime” to trigger internal tipping points.

Upside: A secular, democratic Iran ends 46 years of theocracy, sponsorship of terror, and nuclear roulette. A regional peace dividend (no more Axis of Resistance funding), economic reopening to Western investment, and a historic win for the Iranian people who’ve shown in repeated uprisings they reject the regime.

Downside risks: Power vacuum invites ethnic/sectarian score-settling (Kurds, Baloch, Arabs, Azeris), IRGC remnants turning insurgent, refugee waves, or looting of remaining WMD assets. Without boots on the ground, external influence is limited to aid, broadcasting, and diplomacy.

3. Prolonged mess or state failure. This comes w/ a partial collapse without coherent opposition leadership. Instead, it entails militias, warlordism, or civil strife akin to post-2011 Libya (not a full Iraq 2003 redux since no occupation). Proxies flare; Gulf states get dragged in deeper; China/Russia exploit chaos for influence. This is the nightmare that “euphoria” blinds people to...history shows airpower degrades regimes but rarely installs stable successors alone.

The key is leaving most of the regular Iranian military functional---while decimating the Islamic Revolutionary Guards forces. Our biggest mistake in Iraq was immediately dissolving the Iraqi Army---which left the US Army holding the bag containing compete responsibility for all state security. I suspect we probably initially end up with a regular military government in control of Iran (not the Revolutionary Guards)---but hopefully these generals would quickly move to turn it over to the people by holding elections.