(02-28-2026 10:33 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 09:05 AM)UABFAN23 Wrote:  Well, since the GOP senate was handing the democrats the control of both the Senate and the house in November, might as well give it to them on a silver platter by getting into a war.

This attack on Iran is more important than who gets elected. The Iranians dictatorship would cause more problems than what a bunch of talking heads in Washington could ever do. If Iran's Ayatollah is eliminated there will be peace in the middle east, bank on it because this regime has caused so much bloodshed through its proxies and the regime itself.

You watch, only idiots who don't know the significance of this war will not understand how important it is to eliminate the ayatollah and his minions.

God bless our nation and its troops. Their training was for events like this, they know that their safety is not guaranteed, every service member who signs up to defend our country know that they may have to give their lives for their nation. Every veteran knew this too.

Yep.

(02-28-2026 01:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I just heard Fox lay it out as to why we attacked in broad daylight.

1. The element of surprise.

2. We weren't that fearful of Iran's air defense systems, which had been substantially degraded last summer. What was left was dealt with using Tomahawk missiles.

3. AND...the most important reason was...

We fired on 3 simultaneous government meetings, hoping to decapitate the Iranian leadership. We apparently got a number of them that way, but not everybody. Still waiting on further reports.

This attack also destroys the claim I’ve seen circulating for a week or so that Russian intelligence had the entire American/Israeli attack plan and gave it to the Iranians. Pretty obvious the Iranians didn’t have a clue what was coming or when.

(02-28-2026 01:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I just heard Fox lay it out as to why we attacked in broad daylight.

1. The element of surprise.

2. We weren't that fearful of Iran's air defense systems, which had been substantially degraded last summer. What was left was dealt with using Tomahawk missiles.

3. AND...the most important reason was...

We fired on 3 simultaneous government meetings, hoping to decapitate the Iranian leadership. We apparently got a number of them that way, but not everybody. Still waiting on further reports.

There was a report that the Iranian supreme leader was about to go live, but it never happened...Makes me wonder if it wasn't an attempt to make it look like he is alive. But with no live video after the claim may prove he is actually eliminated. Keep taking out the IRGC leadership who could potentially fill the leadership void, much like Israel did against Hamas.

He's alive somewhere. He's been in hiding. A sick old man. Probably crying under a mountain someplace.

(02-28-2026 01:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 01:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I just heard Fox lay it out as to why we attacked in broad daylight.

1. The element of surprise.

2. We weren't that fearful of Iran's air defense systems, which had been substantially degraded last summer. What was left was dealt with using Tomahawk missiles.

3. AND...the most important reason was...

We fired on 3 simultaneous government meetings, hoping to decapitate the Iranian leadership. We apparently got a number of them that way, but not everybody. Still waiting on further reports.

This attack also destroys the claim I’ve seen circulating for a week or so that Russia had the entire American/Israeli attack plan and gave it to the Iranians. Pretty obvious the Iranians didn’t have a clue what was coming or when.

They also had ample time to prepare and knew an attack could happen. But they could not muster a strong response, and instead caused many muslim nations to turn against them.

(02-28-2026 01:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 01:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I just heard Fox lay it out as to why we attacked in broad daylight.

1. The element of surprise.

2. We weren't that fearful of Iran's air defense systems, which had been substantially degraded last summer. What was left was dealt with using Tomahawk missiles.

3. AND...the most important reason was...

We fired on 3 simultaneous government meetings, hoping to decapitate the Iranian leadership. We apparently got a number of them that way, but not everybody. Still waiting on further reports.

This attack also destroys the claim I’ve seen circulating for a week or so that Russian intelligence had the entire American/Israeli attack plan and gave it to the Iranians. Pretty obvious the Iranians didn’t have a clue what was coming or when.

Well, if the Russians did that, they really suck at it.

I would guess that over the last several weeks we have had Israel and American intelligence and special forces elements working with in country freedom leaders to plan and carry out targeted attacks for regime change. We have armed them and given detailed intelligence for accomplishing that. When the bombing stops, you will see thousands of armed citizens emerge if the objective of getting the military to lay down arms hasn’t been achieved.

(02-28-2026 01:24 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He's alive somewhere. He's been in hiding. A sick old man. Probably crying under a mountain someplace.

The Israelis say they got him.

We'll just have to wait and see.

I'll have a bacon sammich to celebrate.

(02-28-2026 01:39 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'll have a bacon sammich to celebrate.

I just had a couple cheddar brats. Might have some more later.

I doubt this is gonna be over in 72 hours. News reports keep saying weeks, at least. And certainly not until the current regime surrenders, disappears or dies. We'll see.

Depends on what other objectives are there that we don't know about.

Israel flew a coordinated sortie of over 200 fighter jets to hit over 500 missile launch and air defense batteries in the first wave.

They own the Iranian skies again.

Netanyahu in a message to Israel just stated that all indicators are pointing to Khamenei has been eliminated. Also stated they will be attacking thousands of targets in Iran in the coming days. Sounds like police stations, etc.

(02-28-2026 01:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I doubt this is gonna be over in 72 hours. News reports keep saying weeks, at least. And certainly not until the current regime surrenders, disappears or dies. We'll see.

Depends on what other objectives are there that we don't know about.

It was planned for weeks, but it appears the military objectives may be completed within a week. Once you start seeing military leaders abandoning their posts, it will be over with in a day. The only reason it may take this long is that military leadership's communications may be so bad at this point that it may take them some time to learn how much of the leadership has been taken out.

(02-28-2026 02:02 PM)hburg Wrote:  Netanyahu in a message to Israel just stated that all indicators are pointing to Khamenei has been eliminated. Also stated they will be attacking thousands of targets in Iran in the coming days. Sounds like police stations, etc.

I just heard the same report. If so, that is BIG NEWS.

They also said we knew about underground bunkers where a number of gov leaders were gathered, Israel hit them, and reportedly, a number of them were killed.

No confirmation yet.

As for who's the enemy, apparently it's military, all gov employees, all law enforcement, and anybody who works in the Iranian defense industry. At least.

Iranian military commanders are going to start evaluating career paths.

(02-28-2026 12:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 12:00 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  I took part in a local protest against the war in Vietnam when I was a kid.

I know it’s not my business, but if you remember and are willing to say, I’d be curious to know what city/town it happened and what year (mainly whether it was during LBJ or Nixon). I was born 1970 and that is just an era of history I am very interested in.

It was in Memphis TN in or around 1972; late in high school, I was probably a junior. There's a park in Memphis—Overton Park—named after one of the city fathers, John Overton, that still has a large green space called the Greensward that was the site of numerous war protests in the late 60s and throughout the early to middle 70s. It was also a gathering spot for rebellious teens to gather and smoke weed. That was 99% of the reason I was there anyway.

There was, and still is, an amphitheater called the Overton Park Shell that hosted a very diverse set of acts, from the likes of Slim Whitman to local blues legend Furry Lewis. I was there when Trapeze, a great rock band of that time, played. They used a crowd photo on one of their albums. I saw the likes of McKendree Spring, The Allman Brothers Band, Black Sabbath, ZZ Top, Traffic, Mountain, Johnny Winter, Leon Russell, Deep Purple, Bonnie Raitt, Boz Scaggs, and Harry Chapin there. Most often under the influence of really good LSD. It was a wonderful time to grow up.

That park is about 350 acres and is the home of the Memphis Zoo, one of the world class zoos around the country and has some of the last and largest old growth forest in the state: "The Old Forest Arboretum of Overton Park (172 acres) is a forest tract and natural arboretum located in Overton Park, Memphis, Tennessee. It is open to the public daily without charge. The forest was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1979 as part of the Overton Park Historic District."

It's a gorgeous spot still.

Interesting side note: when entering Memphis on I-40 in order to exit Memphis via I-40, one must go around on I-240, the reason being that when I-40 was built, large swathes of land and homes were purchased to accommodate connecting it out east and closer to the river on the west, but to complete it Overton Park would have been effectively destroyed or, at best, split in two. The city fought back and won, and I-240 was created. All that land sat idle for decades until early in this century, when new "old" homes started popping up along that route. Most of them were purchased by rich folks.

Speaking Of Trapeze, they performed at the Shell in 1971 and used a picture of the crowd on the album cover of their album: You are the Music We're Just the Band.
Not great audio for some reason, but I'm one of the faces in that crowd on the album cover.





Damn, thanks for making me remember all that, again, what a great time to grow up.

(02-28-2026 02:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-28-2026 01:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I doubt this is gonna be over in 72 hours. News reports keep saying weeks, at least. And certainly not until the current regime surrenders, disappears or dies. We'll see.

Depends on what other objectives are there that we don't know about.

It was planned for weeks, but it appears the military objectives may be completed within a week. Once you start seeing military leaders abandoning their posts, it will be over with in a day. The only reason it may take this long is that military leadership's communications may be so bad at this point that it may take them some time to learn how much of the leadership has been taken out.

Maybe so. The news (Fox and CNN) just kept pounding the fact all night that this could take many weeks.