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RE: US Seizes oil tanker with Venezuelan Oil
(12-12-2025 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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I would love for a new law to be enacted. Fake sympathy for terrorists and drug traffickers killing our citizens would become a felony where if sympathy expressed on behalf any perp subsequently convicted would result in a sentence for the damn reporter. They should ask for facts and quit taking stances in support of the narco-terrorists. It's our people who ultimately pay them! They should show more concern for dead kids overdosed on fentanyl than for a high speed boat that couldn't possibly fish and doesn't have a live well. If you are that damned stupid you don't need to be on TV working for the news! Maybe you are better suited for a Soap or the View.07-coffee3

Or, to be a patent attorney.
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RE: US Seizes oil tanker with Venezuelan Oil
(12-12-2025 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I would love for a new law to be enacted. Fake sympathy for terrorists and drug traffickers killing our citizens would become a felony where if sympathy expressed on behalf any perp subsequently convicted would result in a sentence for the damn reporter. They should ask for facts and quit taking stances in support of the narco-terrorists.

Funny, they have been asking for facts. Specifically facts on the underlying facts surrounding each and every military attack. That is --- facts to buttress the continued comments from the administration of 'trust us, no need to bother with facts.'


Or facts on *what* exact basis in law is being used to underlie the attacks. That is tangible facts above the bald assertions of 'trust us, no need to bother with such trivialities of why these are legal in nature.'

I guess you missed those facts that the press is asking for, and that the administration is being highly opaque about it.

Or, are you redefining 'facts' in your above statement to mean 'not real facts about the specific instances, nor real facts about the basis in law for the actions'?

I mean you complain to earth and the high seas about the reporters are merely sympathetic to the people at the other end of the missiles and bombs, and complain even more so that the reporters should seek out facts -- yet somehow you wholly miss that the *actual* facts behind the individual attacks, and the *actual* facts on the basis in law behind the attacks goes no further than the administration saying 'trust us'.

You have an odd view on the issues of facts in this vein. Good grief.
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RE: US Seizes oil tanker with Venezuelan Oil
(12-12-2025 04:09 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 03:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

I would love for a new law to be enacted. Fake sympathy for terrorists and drug traffickers killing our citizens would become a felony where if sympathy expressed on behalf any perp subsequently convicted would result in a sentence for the damn reporter. They should ask for facts and quit taking stances in support of the narco-terrorists. It's our people who ultimately pay them! They should show more concern for dead kids overdosed on fentanyl than for a high speed boat that couldn't possibly fish and doesn't have a live well. If you are that damned stupid you don't need to be on TV working for the news! Maybe you are better suited for a Soap or the View.07-coffee3

Or, to be a patent attorney.

Or go to oral roberts and be a mini-me whiny name caller.
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(12-12-2025 04:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 04:09 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 03:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

I would love for a new law to be enacted. Fake sympathy for terrorists and drug traffickers killing our citizens would become a felony where if sympathy expressed on behalf any perp subsequently convicted would result in a sentence for the damn reporter. They should ask for facts and quit taking stances in support of the narco-terrorists. It's our people who ultimately pay them! They should show more concern for dead kids overdosed on fentanyl than for a high speed boat that couldn't possibly fish and doesn't have a live well. If you are that damned stupid you don't need to be on TV working for the news! Maybe you are better suited for a Soap or the View.07-coffee3

Or, to be a patent attorney.

Or go to oral roberts and be a mini-me whiny name caller.

And yet here you are sky-screaming about Trump to ORU guy on a message board. 03-lmfao
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The motors alone on that "fishing boat" are worth about $150,000 dollars

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Retardia.

Muh fishing boats.
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(12-12-2025 03:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 01:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Three in a row.

I guess you dont notice the ratio around here. Lolz. But why not complain about three responses to 8 howlers jumping up and down and screaming different things. Quite the insight there, pardner. Amazing those basic underlying facts dont bubble through your need and want to type the above. Or, maybe its not so amazing given how you typically act..... Glad it made the other howler twerps happy as well.....
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(12-12-2025 04:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The motors alone on that "fishing boat" are worth about $150,000 dollars

03-lmfao

Retardia.

Muh fishing boats.

If that's a fishing boat, I'm the Queen of England. (And I'm not. lol)
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(12-12-2025 04:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I would love for a new law to be enacted. Fake sympathy for terrorists and drug traffickers killing our citizens would become a felony where if sympathy expressed on behalf any perp subsequently convicted would result in a sentence for the damn reporter. They should ask for facts and quit taking stances in support of the narco-terrorists.

Funny, they have been asking for facts. Specifically facts on the underlying facts surrounding each and every military attack. That is --- facts to buttress the continued comments from the administration of 'trust us, no need to bother with facts.'


Or facts on *what* exact basis in law is being used to underlie the attacks. That is tangible facts above the bald assertions of 'trust us, no need to bother with such trivialities of why these are legal in nature.'

I guess you missed those facts that the press is asking for, and that the administration is being highly opaque about it.

Or, are you redefining 'facts' in your above statement to mean 'not real facts about the specific instances, nor real facts about the basis in law for the actions'?

I mean you complain to earth and the high seas about the reporters are merely sympathetic to the people at the other end of the missiles and bombs, and complain even more so that the reporters should seek out facts -- yet somehow you wholly miss that the *actual* facts behind the individual attacks, and the *actual* facts on the basis in law behind the attacks goes no further than the administration saying 'trust us'.

You have an odd view on the issues of facts in this vein. Good grief.

"Or facts on *what* exact basis in law is being used to underlie the attacks"

Is this about the oil tanker or also other thins going on down there? Because if you are, it could be that the information is maybe classified. 03-idea
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Patent attorney doesn't actually care about facts or truth or rule of law, no matter how many times he uses those words. It's why he posts dozens of times on threads like this where they may be a chance to take shots at Trump and why he's a ghost on the threads that talk about Dems doing bad things.

The dude is a straight up phony. Or in other words...a lawyer.
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Look, if tanq was the last ambulance chaser on earth I wouldn't hire him if my life depended on it.

Period.

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(12-12-2025 03:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I love that they were flying a false flag of a country that's never heard of them and liberals are still crying.

Tanq cries about everything, even though he has conservative leanings, lol.
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(12-12-2025 07:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 03:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I love that they were flying a false flag of a country that's never heard of them and liberals are still crying.

Tanq cries about everything, even though he has conservative leanings, lol.

Facts.
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(12-12-2025 04:30 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I would love for a new law to be enacted. Fake sympathy for terrorists and drug traffickers killing our citizens would become a felony where if sympathy expressed on behalf any perp subsequently convicted would result in a sentence for the damn reporter. They should ask for facts and quit taking stances in support of the narco-terrorists.

Funny, they have been asking for facts. Specifically facts on the underlying facts surrounding each and every military attack. That is --- facts to buttress the continued comments from the administration of 'trust us, no need to bother with facts.'


Or facts on *what* exact basis in law is being used to underlie the attacks. That is tangible facts above the bald assertions of 'trust us, no need to bother with such trivialities of why these are legal in nature.'

I guess you missed those facts that the press is asking for, and that the administration is being highly opaque about it.

Or, are you redefining 'facts' in your above statement to mean 'not real facts about the specific instances, nor real facts about the basis in law for the actions'?

I mean you complain to earth and the high seas about the reporters are merely sympathetic to the people at the other end of the missiles and bombs, and complain even more so that the reporters should seek out facts -- yet somehow you wholly miss that the *actual* facts behind the individual attacks, and the *actual* facts on the basis in law behind the attacks goes no further than the administration saying 'trust us'.

You have an odd view on the issues of facts in this vein. Good grief.

I thought Sen. Schmitt laid out pretty succinctly what legal authority we are operating under when we destroy those poison-laden "fishing boats." Maybe you can explain what laws are being broken?
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(12-12-2025 01:12 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 10:51 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(12-12-2025 06:17 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(12-11-2025 06:37 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good lord, Tanq, you are an effing moron. You always dodge the actual point with some stupid deflection.

The point is the rationale that the Govt is spouting doesnt have a fing basis in international law, Geritol. I guess that is a hard issue for you to process. Good show there, bright guy. But please whine about that.

Glad to know that this action was supported by international law.

Funny, the rationale stated by the government isnt.

All I know is you are Ofer and I’m undefeated picking against you.
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Hey Tanq, way to respond to my "three in a row" comment, and conveniently cut off the meme that accompanied it. Dishonest.

This is what you do all the time. And one reason nobody takes you seriously here, except the handful of lefties.
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Reading the lawyers posts is like watching the "journalists" and Leftists on cnn and msnow, I just don't need to hear what they have to say, its like a broken record, same ol', same ol'.

I have yet to hear them say something nice about Trump. Their minds are mush by now.
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(12-13-2025 10:38 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  Reading the lawyers posts is like watching the "journalists" and Leftists on cnn and msnow, I just don't need to hear what they have to say, its like a broken record, same ol', same ol'.

I have yet to hear them say something nice about Trump. Their minds are mush by now.

Well, at least they are entertaining in their own twisted way. They make me laugh every day at how ridiculous they are.
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Cuba Is Now Whining About US 'Piracy' After Tanker Seizure


Quote:We've been covering the legal seizure of the rogue oil tanker ship Skipper by the United States recently. While one wonders, rather irrelevantly, if there is another, smaller tanker named Gilligan somewhere out there, the seizure has ruffled some feathers in Venezuela and the rest of the rogues' gallery of outlaw nations (Iran, North Korea, just to name a couple) that were on this ship's list of regular stops. But now, it seems that the seizure has upset Cuba, as well.

Cuban officials have denounced the US seizure of the Skipper oil tanker off Venezuela’s coast on Wednesday, calling it an “act of piracy and maritime terrorism” as well as a “serious violation of international law” that hurts the Caribbean island nation and its people.

“This action is part of the US escalation aimed at hampering Venezuela’s legitimate right to freely use and trade its natural resources with other nations, including the supplies of hydrocarbons to Cuba,” the Cuban foreign ministry statement said.

The statement added that the US’s action “negatively affects Cuba and intensifies the United States’ policy of maximum pressure and economic suffocation”.


The proper reply to this complaint should consist of three words: "Tough noogies, Cuba."


This tanker is ours now. It was seized legally, with a seizure warrant. Unlike the (well-deserved) detonation of Venezuelan drug-smuggling boats, this was a law enforcement action, not a military one, although it appears some military assets were used. And, let's be honest, if we can squeeze Cuba at the same time we're squeezing Venezuela, why not kill two socialist birds with one well-aimed American stone?

The tanker, which was reported now to be heading for Galveston, Texas, was believed to loaded with nearly 2m barrels of Venezuela’s heavy crude, according to internal data from the Venezuelan state oil company PDVSA, according to the New York Times.

The Skipper’s destination was listed as the Cuban port of Matanzas, the outlet said. But two days after its departure, it off-loaded an estimated 50,000 barrels to another ship, which then headed north toward Cuba while the Skipper headed east toward Asia.

About 80% of Venezuela’s oil exports, or 663,000 to 746,000 barrels daily, goes to China, according to estimates. But Cuba has long relied on Venezuelan oil exports in return for medical expertise, sports instructors and security personnel who surround the Venezuelan president, Nicolás Maduro – and are considered loyal and effective in providing personal protection.

While Cuba, like the previously mentioned North Korea, has clearly earned its place on the short bus of nation-states, it is smart enough to parlay off some unemployed Cuban security types in return for Venezuelan oil, as we see here. This raises an interesting question: Why would El Presidente Maduro prefer Cuban security over his own people? It would appear pretty obvious that he doesn't trust his own people, no doubt worrying that a Venezuelan security detail may do unto him what the Praetorian Guard did unto Caligula.

So, frankly, the Trump administration should reply to this by telling Cuba in no uncertain terms where to head in. And Cuba, frankly, should choose better friends - or get used to going without oil.
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I’ll bet they are … yeah, the Cubans know they’re on deck…
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